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2016/04/30 11:27:48 (permalink)
Hey guys,
 
So I'm trying to get a little more juice out of the 980Ti classified and I've reached my comfortable point temperature. My temps are staying at 69c Max while under intensive GPU load, but sometimes I get a driver reset error crashing my games. I've had Heaven 4.0 run for about 4 hours straight with no problems. I've increased power to 115%, and have enabled maximum performance in the control panel. I'm using afterburner and I have added the 1 values to the corresponding fields and EULA in the CFG file. I've also unlocked voltage in afterburner settings. However, I am unable to go beyond 1.212v on the card. Even if I increase it to +50mv, All software reports a max of 1.212v under load. I'm trying to just increase it a little bit to see if this stabilizes my overclock (who knows, maybe push a little further) and I get rid of the driver crash. I've saved my GPU's bios and I'm ready to flash to a custom one if need be to unlock the voltage.

If you think I missed something, please let me know, or if you could guide me towards the right BIOS to get rid of this limit, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks guys!

This is my card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487146

Cheers! 
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/04/30 11:31:55 (permalink)
    Sounds like you're heading in the right direction when it comes to getting more voltage. Flashing a custom vbios will most likely get you more voltage. Using a EVBot to increase voltage on the gpu is another option.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/04/30 11:59:12 (permalink)
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    Sounds like you're heading in the right direction when it comes to getting more voltage. Flashing a custom vbios will most likely get you more voltage. Using a EVBot to increase voltage on the gpu is another option.



    Thank you, Sajin! I've looked into the EVbot but I'm trying not to shed more hard earned money into my PC, haha! Hopefully I can get some help via the BIOS route! Thank you for your suggestions and confirmation, though!  

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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/04/30 12:12:57 (permalink)
    No problem. 
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/03 18:49:26 (permalink)
    Oh wow, no love on this after a few days? :(
     

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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/03 20:16:19 (permalink)
    You can edit your own vbios using maxwell ii bios tweaker v1.36.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/03 21:06:37 (permalink)
    Use the Classy Voltage Tool, found here Classified Voltage Tool

    With this, you can increase the voltage without an EVBOT. You will find that Maxwell doesn't scale well with voltage compared to previous generations unless you get the card into subzero temps, but you can definitely try it out with that.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/04 17:49:56 (permalink)
    Thank you Sajin, I'm leaving your suggestion as a second option since I'm a bit afraid of trying to mess with my own bios. I looked at the software and there are significant values I am unfamiliar with and I'm afraid to touch. Either way, thank you for giving me a solution. I will try Scarlet-Tech's way first and see where we can go from there.

    Question for Scarlet-Tech: I've downloaded the rom which leads me to assume this is an unlocked Bios for the 980ti Classified, correct? If so, I will flash to it and set my current values equally on the one you provided me with and just try to boost the voltage slightly. Let me know so I can get started on this, buddy! Thank you all for your help! 

    Cheers!

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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/04 18:19:50 (permalink)
    That should not have been a ROM.  That should have been a Zip file.  Try this one: Here  The .rom may have linked because I am on mobile, and picked up the wrong link. I wouldn't use it simply because I am unsure what it decided to pick up for sure and I don't want you having to reflash.
     
    Check out this page: Overclockers.net Classified/Kingpin forum  There is a plethora of Classified and KPE enthusiasts in there 
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/04 18:27:06 (permalink)
    Thanks, Scarlet-Tech! The software seems like just what I need. However, my voltage reported on the software is slightly lower than that reported by MSI afterburner and GPUZ, and I also tried upping it slightly, but no change took effect as reported by GPUZ or afterburner. It seems the lock goes beyond this tool's capabilities. Should I proceed to use the bios provided on overclock.net?

    Thanks once again!
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/04 18:46:28 (permalink)
    The following values need to be changed inside maxwell bios tweaker to change the voltage...
     

     
    So for example if you wanted to run 1.25v you would change it to this...
     

     

     
     
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/04 18:51:24 (permalink)
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    The following values need to be changed inside maxwell bios tweaker to change the voltage...
     

     
    So for example if you wanted to run 1.25v you would change it to this...
     

     

     
     



    Wonderful Sajin, so everything else would be loaded automatically from my bios without having to tweak the others settings? Also, the way you increased the voltage to 1.25v would that still allow me to use any number to the left of that value if I chose to, or would it always be locked at 1.25?
     
    You guys are awesome! Thank you for the patience walking me through this overclock.

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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/04 18:55:41 (permalink)
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    The following values need to be changed inside maxwell bios tweaker to change the voltage...
     

     
    So for example if you wanted to run 1.25v you would change it to this...
     

     

     
     



    Wonderful Sajin, so everything else would be loaded automatically from my bios without having to tweak the others settings? Also, the way you increased the voltage to 1.25v would that still allow me to use any number to the left of that value if I chose to, or would it always be locked at 1.25?
     
    You guys are awesome! Thank you for the patience walking me through this overclock.


    Yes, everything else would be loaded automatically. It will be locked to 1.25v when boosting only.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/04 19:39:38 (permalink)
    Thanks, Sajin. I was ready to do all of this and proceed with the flashing but I am unable to flash on NVflash as previously where I just typed the commands. There seems to be some kind of write-protection? (Apologies, I havent used NVflash in almost a year) I've got everything ready to go. Thanks for the help!  

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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/04 19:42:17 (permalink)
    Go to the first post in the classified kingpin thread, and download the NV flash from there. When you open it, it will say Joe Dirt. NVIDIA blocked cards from accepting unofficial bios' with nvflash. The version on there doesn't not block you.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/04 20:11:49 (permalink)
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    Go to the first post in the classified kingpin thread, and download the NV flash from there. When you open it, it will say Joe Dirt. NVIDIA blocked cards from accepting unofficial bios' with nvflash. The version on there doesn't not block you.


    EDIT: Ok I was able to flash it to the new BIOS with the CNVFLASH file. However, it's still locked at 1.212v when I run benchmarks.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/04 20:15:50 (permalink)
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/04 20:36:59 (permalink)
    Thanks all of you! It did flash with the links provided as when I extract the bios with GPUZ, it shows the voltage at 1.225v, which is the modification I made. However, when I run a benchmark, MSI and GPUZ still remain at 1.212v So it seems it is still being locked at 1.212v even after modifying the bios to 1.225v. Any ideas on this?

    Thanks guys!

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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/04 23:07:58 (permalink)
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    Thanks all of you! It did flash with the links provided as when I extract the bios with GPUZ, it shows the voltage at 1.225v, which is the modification I made. However, when I run a benchmark, MSI and GPUZ still remain at 1.212v So it seems it is still being locked at 1.212v even after modifying the bios to 1.225v. Any ideas on this?

    Thanks guys!


    Sounds like the software is reading the incorrect voltage. To get accurate readings the best thing to do would be to buy a probe it cable from evga and use a digital multimeter to read the voltage. Did increasing the voltage help you gain any stability?
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/05 20:13:19 (permalink)
    Hey Sajin,
     
    It's kind of hard to tell. I just played for about 1 hours before I got a driver crash/reset. The benchmark ran for 30 mins without crashing. but it did stop to think (loading circle from cursor) once while on a loading screen, and continued running normally. Do you think reinstalling the drivers will make a difference in what's being shown? Thanks in advance!

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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/05 20:22:20 (permalink)
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    Hey Sajin,
     
    It's kind of hard to tell. I just played for about 1 hours before I got a driver crash/reset. The benchmark ran for 30 mins without crashing. but it did stop to think (loading circle from cursor) once while on a loading screen, and continued running normally. Do you think reinstalling the drivers will make a difference in what's being shown? Thanks in advance!


    No, re-installing the drivers won't help. You could try though if you want.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/05 22:23:02 (permalink)
    Alright, so I have the bios set to 1.243v and Heaven is not crashing anymore. In fact, it ran stable for repeated tests at 1510Mhz without a crash. However, at 1520Mhz Firestrike crashes sometimes. This seems to happen when the card requests more than 105% power. Temperatures are maxing out at 70c now with fans at 75% (readings from multiple software); 1 degree hotter which doesn't really say much. How safe do you think it would be to move it to 1.250v (round numbers please my self-diagnosed OCD, lol), and assuming it stabilizes on Firestrike, to keep it at this for maybe 2-3 hours of gaming, possibly 3 days a week? In addition, this data seems to validate your remark about the misreading of the vcore by the software. If 1.250v is safe and I can stabilize the 1520Mhz, this will be my stopping point. Otherwise, I'm reverting to 1510Mhz (I'm just playing with fire here, am I not?). 

    Thanks for getting me to this point, guys!

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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/05 22:31:15 (permalink)
    1.25v should be fine. Glad to hear everything is working out to your liking. 10MHz isn't going to do anything though.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/07 12:48:32 (permalink)
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    1.25v should be fine. Glad to hear everything is working out to your liking. 10MHz isn't going to do anything though.



    Thanks Sajin. I wasn't able to stabilize it at 1.250 at 1520Mhz so I just dropped it back to 1510Mhz. Like you said, I was also aware there would be minimal to no impact by those 10 Mhz. I just wanted to squeeze all I could out of that voltage. Out of curiosity, how far in voltage can this card go safely with air cooling?


    Thanks for your help in changing the voltage! 

    Cheers!

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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2016/05/07 13:00:27 (permalink)
    I'd say 1.28 to 1.3v on air as long as your temps are good. Maxwell overclocks best on moderate voltage increases though.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2019/01/19 17:52:50 (permalink)
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    The following values need to be changed inside maxwell bios tweaker to change the voltage...
     

     
    So for example if you wanted to run 1.25v you would change it to this...
     

     

     
     


    So the 1600mv is the max voltage you will be able to set with Afterburner? Kind of a dangerous high limit?

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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2019/01/20 01:05:47 (permalink)
    1600 won't work as the card is hardware locked to not go past 1.281mv iirc.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2019/01/20 20:09:50 (permalink)
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    1600 won't work as the card is hardware locked to not go past 1.281mv iirc.




    If thats the case why doesn't afterburner show 1.281v? I modded my bios using the suggested methods and it still stays at 1.212.

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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2019/01/21 01:09:22 (permalink)
    The software reading could be incorrect.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified - Locked Voltage? Help, pls. 2019/01/21 19:03:32 (permalink)
    Well Afterburner's voltage dial is in the middle now even though it says its at zero. Maybe it is incorrect. 

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