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2015/01/27 17:15:08 (permalink)
I just got this card and it is idling at 63-65 degrees Celsius, at load on valley benchmark i get about 75-80. Also, air flow is not the problem, I've testing 3 other msi gtx 970s and they idle around 35-40 in this exact case.

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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/27 17:51:13 (permalink)
    Are you seeing similar temperatures with the MSI cards under load?
     
    Our ACX 2.0 cards do come with a feature in which the fans do not turn on below 60C. That is likely the source of the higher idle temperatures. If you wish to have the fans on during idle, you would be able to set a custom fan curve in PrecisionX.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/27 18:07:40 (permalink)
    Im aware of the passive cooling, the msi cards under load were around high 60s to low 70s, honestly it's not the load temps that are bothering me. It's the fact that im getting super high idle temps, a 20-25 degree difference is pretty abnormal. I actually havent seen the fans turn off once since i've installed this. 
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 02:15:45 (permalink)
    Did you connect more than one screen?
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 04:33:17 (permalink)
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    Did you connect more than one screen?


    Does this make a difference? I'm running two Monitors???

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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 06:24:01 (permalink)
    Yes multiple monitors will prevent the card from downclocking at idle as far as it should. You can get around this with Nvidia Inspector.
    See here:
    http://forums.evga.com/980-SLI-with-Nvidia-Surround-high-idle-clock-fix-m2247670.aspx#2247768
     
    My FTW idles between 33-36c with 0 fan speed, the GPU clock at idle is running 135 mhz.
     
     

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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 07:12:13 (permalink)
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    Yes multiple monitors will prevent the card from downclocking at idle as far as it should. You can get around this with Nvidia Inspector.
     


    My 970 FTW downclocks to 135mhz with 2 monitors and no change in Nvidia Inspector. I'm running 347.25 and Windows 8.1 if that makes any difference. I've read others have this issue, but cannot replicate on my end. 
     
    Angelus, I do think they are onto something though, what is your GPU clock at idle? 



     
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 10:25:10 (permalink)
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    Yes multiple monitors will prevent the card from downclocking at idle as far as it should. You can get around this with Nvidia Inspector.
    See here:
    http://forums.evga.com/980-SLI-with-Nvidia-Surround-high-idle-clock-fix-m2247670.aspx#2247768
     
    My FTW idles between 33-36c with 0 fan speed, the GPU clock at idle is running 135 mhz.
     
     


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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 12:42:25 (permalink)
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    Yes multiple monitors will prevent the card from downclocking at idle as far as it should. You can get around this with Nvidia Inspector.
     


    My 970 FTW downclocks to 135mhz with 2 monitors and no change in Nvidia Inspector. I'm running 347.25 and Windows 8.1 if that makes any difference. I've read others have this issue, but cannot replicate on my end. 
     
    Angelus, I do think they are onto something though, what is your GPU clock at idle? 




    I'm running one monitor, and my GPU is at a constant 1215mhz at idle. Im not sure i understand, i thought GPUs stay at a frequency the whole time? I was confused when i say that it goes up when i play a game. kinda make overclocking hard for me since i don't know what it's going to be at in the end. Any advice?
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 13:06:16 (permalink)
    Check in nvidia control panel if you have power management mode set to performance. If so, set it to adaptive and you'll be fine.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 13:08:06 (permalink)
    d.burnette
    Yes multiple monitors will prevent the card from downclocking at idle as far as it should. You can get around this with Nvidia Inspector.
    See here:

     
    My FTW idles between 33-36c with 0 fan speed, the GPU clock at idle is running 135 mhz.
     
     


    Hmm, seems they screwed something on 970 SC cooler because my iddle temp with fans off is 50C.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 13:33:50 (permalink)
    misiak
    Check in nvidia control panel if you have power management mode set to performance. If so, set it to adaptive and you'll be fine.




    It was already on adaptive. 
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 14:00:34 (permalink)
    What are you monitoring the card with?

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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 14:39:12 (permalink)
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    What are you monitoring the card with?




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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 14:43:25 (permalink)
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    Yes multiple monitors will prevent the card from downclocking at idle as far as it should. You can get around this with Nvidia Inspector.
    See here:

     
    My FTW idles between 33-36c with 0 fan speed, the GPU clock at idle is running 135 mhz.
     
     


    Hmm, seems they screwed something on 970 SC cooler because my iddle temp with fans off is 50C.


    Airflow in your case is going to play a huge part is passive cooling. Slow air movement or silent system means that not much air is moving, so there is not much air to cool the passively cooled (requires external air movement) gpu.

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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 14:48:32 (permalink)
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    Yes multiple monitors will prevent the card from downclocking at idle as far as it should. You can get around this with Nvidia Inspector.
     


    My 970 FTW downclocks to 135mhz with 2 monitors and no change in Nvidia Inspector. I'm running 347.25 and Windows 8.1 if that makes any difference. I've read others have this issue, but cannot replicate on my end. 
     
    Angelus, I do think they are onto something though, what is your GPU clock at idle? 




    I'm running one monitor, and my GPU is at a constant 1215mhz at idle. Im not sure i understand, i thought GPUs stay at a frequency the whole time? I was confused when i say that it goes up when i play a game. kinda make overclocking hard for me since i don't know what it's going to be at in the end. Any advice?


    What monitor do you own?
     

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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 15:04:12 (permalink)
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    Yes multiple monitors will prevent the card from downclocking at idle as far as it should. You can get around this with Nvidia Inspector.
     


    My 970 FTW downclocks to 135mhz with 2 monitors and no change in Nvidia Inspector. I'm running 347.25 and Windows 8.1 if that makes any difference. I've read others have this issue, but cannot replicate on my end. 
     
    Angelus, I do think they are onto something though, what is your GPU clock at idle? 




    I'm running one monitor, and my GPU is at a constant 1215mhz at idle. Im not sure i understand, i thought GPUs stay at a frequency the whole time? I was confused when i say that it goes up when i play a game. kinda make overclocking hard for me since i don't know what it's going to be at in the end. Any advice?


    What monitor do you own?
     




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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 15:36:33 (permalink)
    Here are the top causes of why a GPU would run at full clocks at idle...
     
    #1 You're running multiple monitors. Fix: Enable mutil display power saver using nvidia inspector.
    #2 Your machine has a virus. Fix: Scan computer using malwarebytes.
    #3 One or more programs running in the background are using your GPU. Fix: Perform a clean boot of windows.
    #4 Power management mode inside the nvidia control panel is set to prefer maximum performance. Fix: Set power management mode to adaptive then reboot your computer.
    #5 Running a resolution of 2560x1440 @ 144Hz. Fix: Change refresh rate to 120Hz.
    #6 K-Boost is enabled inside Precision X. Fix: Disable K-Boost.
    #7 Shadowplay is enabled inside geforce experience. Fix: Disable shadowplay inside geforce experience OR completely uninstall geforce experience from your machine (highly recommended)
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 15:45:39 (permalink)
     I have a mid tower(coolermaster 690) with seven fans(2x140mm on the side panel blowing on to cpu and gpu, a 120mm blowing from base into case,a 120mm blowing on HDD,a 120mm fan blowing out from the back and 2x120mm blowing out at the top).After playing assassin's creed unity(high settings 1680x1050) for 2 hours the temp of my EVGA GTX 970 ftw+ at stock settings in performance bios was 75C(room temperature 20C).Is it normal?
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 16:02:36 (permalink)
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    Here are the top causes of why a GPU would run at full clocks at idle...

    #1 You're running multiple monitors. Fix: 
    #2 Your machine has a virus. Fix: 
    #3 One or more programs running in the background are using your GPU. Fix: 
    #4 Power management mode inside the nvidia control panel is set to prefer maximum performance. Fix: Set power management mode to adaptive then reboot your computer.
    #5 Running a resolution of 2560x1440 @ 144Hz. Fix: Change refresh rate to 120Hz.
    #6 K-Boost is enabled inside Precision X. Fix: Disable K-Boost.


     #1- only got one
    #2- everything is clean
    #3- complided with and checked task manager afterwards, still nothing utilizing it.
    #4- its been on adaptive this whole time.
    #5- only running 1080p at 60hz
    #6- not sure how to do this, might be the problem. 
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 16:03:55 (permalink)
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     I have a mid tower(coolermaster 690) with seven fans(2x140mm on the side panel blowing on to cpu and gpu, a 120mm blowing from base into case,a 120mm blowing on HDD,a 120mm fan blowing out from the back and 2x120mm blowing out at the top).After playing assassin's creed unity(high settings 1680x1050) for 2 hours the temp of my EVGA GTX 970 ftw+ at stock settings in performance bios was 75C(room temperature 20C).Is it normal?


    I have the same temp but I have SC ACX2.0. So maybe for FTW+ it could be better. But I have high temp when idle - 50C. But my airflow is not the best :) What's your fan speed at full load?
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 16:14:45 (permalink)
    Disable shadowplay inside geforce experience if you have it on as it can cause high clocks too. If you don't use shadowplay or geforce experience then uninstall geforce experience completely from your system to fix the issue. Geforce experience shouldn't be installed at all, here is why.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 20:07:04 (permalink)
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    Disable shadowplay inside geforce experience if you have it on as it can cause high clocks too. If you don't use shadowplay or geforce experience then uninstall geforce experience completely from your system to fix the issue. Geforce experience shouldn't be installed at all, is why.


     Holy **** my GPU clock just went down! i think it's fixed! I actually had no idea that the clock changes. I always though that the stock clock stays at a certain Mhz
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 20:14:27 (permalink)
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    Disable shadowplay inside geforce experience if you have it on as it can cause high clocks too. If you don't use shadowplay or geforce experience then uninstall geforce experience completely from your system to fix the issue. Geforce experience shouldn't be installed at all, is why.


    Holy **** my GPU clock just went down! i think it's fixed! I actually had no idea that the clock changes. I always though that the stock clock stays at a certain Mhz




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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 20:45:01 (permalink)
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    Disable shadowplay inside geforce experience if you have it on as it can cause high clocks too. If you don't use shadowplay or geforce experience then uninstall geforce experience completely from your system to fix the issue. Geforce experience shouldn't be installed at all, is why.


    Holy **** my GPU clock just went down! i think it's fixed! I actually had no idea that the clock changes. I always though that the stock clock stays at a certain Mhz





     Read that post you linked, what should kind of recording software do you recommend? I liked the simplicity of shadow play.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/28 20:49:56 (permalink)

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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/29 00:37:48 (permalink)
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     I have a mid tower(coolermaster 690) with seven fans(2x140mm on the side panel blowing on to cpu and gpu, a 120mm blowing from base into case,a 120mm blowing on HDD,a 120mm fan blowing out from the back and 2x120mm blowing out at the top).After playing assassin's creed unity(high settings 1680x1050) for 2 hours the temp of my EVGA GTX 970 ftw+ at stock settings in performance bios was 75C(room temperature 20C).Is it normal?


    I have the same temp but I have SC ACX2.0. So maybe for FTW+ it could be better. But I have high temp when idle - 50C. But my airflow is not the best :) What's your fan speed at full load?


    I run heaven benchmark at high settings plus tessalation normal,antialising x2 , gpu load 98% ,max temp 73C and gpufan auto, maxspeed 34%.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/29 03:49:30 (permalink)
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     I have a mid tower(coolermaster 690) with seven fans(2x140mm on the side panel blowing on to cpu and gpu, a 120mm blowing from base into case,a 120mm blowing on HDD,a 120mm fan blowing out from the back and 2x120mm blowing out at the top).After playing assassin's creed unity(high settings 1680x1050) for 2 hours the temp of my EVGA GTX 970 ftw+ at stock settings in performance bios was 75C(room temperature 20C).Is it normal?


    I have the same temp but I have SC ACX2.0. So maybe for FTW+ it could be better. But I have high temp when idle - 50C. But my airflow is not the best :) What's your fan speed at full load?


    I run heaven benchmark at high settings plus tessalation normal,antialising x2 , gpu load 98% ,max temp 73C and gpufan auto, maxspeed 34%.


    I have similar results at full load, I think it is good. The card should by able to handle temps until ~98C I guess.
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/01/29 04:51:51 (permalink)
    To be on the safe side i installed msi afterburner which i used with my previous gpu and without overclocking i just made a custom fan profile so it never exceed 70C.
    I think that for the performance bios EVGA should have made a more agressive fan curve.
    post edited by atsele - 2015/01/29 05:00:47
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    Re: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+ high idle and load temp 2015/10/14 18:29:44 (permalink)
    Hi, I had this same issue and for me it actually had to do with me putting two separate 4 pin to 3 pin cables from the power supply into the card, instead of one cable which split from 4 pin to two separate 3 pins on the card-side end. I know that most computer builders won't make this error but I thought it would be worth posting, considering this is an issue thread and this is a possible solution. 
     
    and it was my first build so I didn't really know what I was doing xd
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