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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/26 05:27:51
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I bought me a Classified from the Egg and gots my tracking number! Why is anyone comparing this to a GTX 580 SLI setup. The space/heat/energy/money savings is well worth a few frames IMO.
How much is this card compared to 2 580's? Of course you're not going to get the same performance. You can't even buy two 480's for the price of this card new. It was clear from the beginning that the GPU's would have to be under-clocked to achieve specifications. How many people here actually have room for 4 580's SLI in their case anyway? This is a nice card, because a year down the road, you can grab another one at half price, which is what I'll probably be doing when BF3 hits the shelves.
The HD 6990 is cool for people with DP monitors, but getting that card, then dealing with the BS adapters you need to get DVI monitors to work with Eyefinity is more than I wanted to play around with. Nvidia did it right, for the typical gamer.
The logic is pretty simple.
This is compared to two 580s because it uses two 580 chips.....simple.
The performance isn't there unfortunately. So the 590 is not as solid as two 580s, plain and simple.
The performance of the 590 in 30" or three 24" gaming is only equal to two 570s in SLI which can be purchased for less than 700 dollars, again a loss for the 590.
The absolute best dual chip solution is most likely the HD 6990, with performance close to dual GTX 580s and easily overclocked with the flip of a BIOS switch.
The absolute performance crown goes to HD6990 and HD 6970 in Triple Crossfire, that can be purchased for just under the cost of two GTX 580s.
As for DP......a newer monitor from Dell or other vendors has at least one native DP connection, which is all you need for EyeFinity in addition to the two DVI connections.
Anybody purchasing the GTX 590 who doesn't use a 30" single monitor or a triple monitor setup is simply wasting their money. A single GTX 580 or a Crossfired 6970 setup can easily power anything 24" and below at the maximum settings possible.
I guess maybe the only advantage for buying the 590 is the keen box and free T-shirt?
Or simply to be the coolest kid on the block? (but maybe not the smartest)
Nice post! You just made me change my mind about upgrading to the 590s. 28nm kepler here I come.
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/26 05:53:09
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You got to be kidding me!!!! I just got the 580 GTX and you go and throw this out into the plan! Man... I did not even open mine yet. Is there anyway I can trade it in for the new one?
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/26 07:42:45
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You got to be kidding me!!!! I just got the 580 GTX and you go and throw this out into the plan! Man... I did not even open mine yet. Is there anyway I can trade it in for the new one?
No step up. Read the entire thread you'll see it been talked about. If you hven't opened the box yet take it back or buy a second GTX 580. I know how you feel. I'm within my step up until April 15th. Excuse, 'limited edition', dual GPU not single, yadda yadda.
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/26 08:26:00
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Just got the 590 which replaced my GTX 295 FTW. Does anyone think EVGA will come out with a GTX 590 FTW co-op or better yet an EVGA GTX 595 FTW co-op to get the last drop of the series out because the card is near it's tap out range? The NVIDIA 600 series will be deployed later this year so I would assume a 590 extreme edtion will be released and even a GTX 595 before the card is retired out with a new series.
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/26 09:00:54
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You got to be kidding me!!!! I just got the 580 GTX and you go and throw this out into the plan! Man... I did not even open mine yet. Is there anyway I can trade it in for the new one?
No step up. Read the entire thread you'll see it been talked about. If you hven't opened the box yet take it back or buy a second GTX 580.
I know how you feel. I'm within my step up until April 15th. Excuse, 'limited edition', dual GPU not single, yadda yadda.
I know how that feels, when I got my 480s, I thought I did good till the 580s came out DAYS after my step-up ended. Eh, it happens......lol.
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/26 10:04:27
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How does the GeForce light function on the card, anyone seen any videos? Does it do some kind of load test when it starts up to determine if the PSU's supplying enough power? Or do you have to look at the card while you're in an intense game to see if it's flashing?
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/26 12:39:20
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You got to be kidding me!!!! I just got the 580 GTX and you go and throw this out into the plan! Man... I did not even open mine yet. Is there anyway I can trade it in for the new one?
No step up. Read the entire thread you'll see it been talked about. If you hven't opened the box yet take it back or buy a second GTX 580.
I know how you feel. I'm within my step up until April 15th. Excuse, 'limited edition', dual GPU not single, yadda yadda.
I was comparing them just now and I'm happy with mine because of the " 4050 MHz (effective)" is better than the new one.
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/26 18:23:15
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Вот это видюха но цена просто ... с моей зарплатой в 420$ , купить её не реально. Вердикт крутая видюха но цена заграни! 
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/26 19:00:12
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Вот это видюха но цена просто ... с моей зарплатой в 420$ , купить её не реально. Вердикт крутая видюха но цена заграни!
What does that mean? 
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/26 19:25:06
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Вот это видюха но цена просто ... с моей зарплатой в 420$ , купить её не реально. Вердикт крутая видюха но цена заграни!
What does that mean?
IDK, but it is a TOS violation. EDIT: Google Translation: That's vidyuhi but the price is just ... from my salary of $ 420 to buy it is not realistic. Verdict but the price is steep vidyuhi Zagran'e! My translation of Google Translation: That's all fine and dandy, but the price....I only make $420, so buying it is unrealistic for me. (Something about the steep price again)
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/26 19:30:20
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Вот это видюха но цена просто ... с моей зарплатой в 420$ , купить её не реально. Вердикт крутая видюха но цена заграни!
What does that mean?
Something about prices being too high. Pretty sure that gibberish does not belong on the EVGA usa forums though. edit: dang RJ beat me too it.
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/26 19:31:21
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Вот это видюха но цена просто ... с моей зарплатой в 420$ , купить её не реально. Вердикт крутая видюха но цена заграни!
What does that mean?
Sorry a little did not realize I wrote that the video card cool, but for the price for the Europeans (closer to RUSSIA) high, although this video card worth the money.
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/27 01:46:21
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In Europe, prices are higher due to one or a combination of these factors: transportation, insurance, warehouse, stocking, customs, duties, tariffs, labor, and so forth.
Please only post in this EVGA forum in English.
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/27 05:02:03
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Hellow i'm french i would like to know when this card (regular classified) will be aivable in Europe. Have you got an idea? I'm ready to buy it even if it's in an other european country.
(I don't know if my english is well, sorry for that).
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/27 07:35:04
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Hellow i'm french i would like to know when this card (regular classified) will be aivable in Europe. Have you got an idea? I'm ready to buy it even if it's in an other european country.
(I don't know if my english is well, sorry for that).
Thanks =)
They were available in the EVGA Europe store, but are aparently sold out right now. Keep watching that store, it looks like that will be the only place you will be able to get them in Europe.
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/27 08:55:51
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Вот это видюха но цена просто ... с моей зарплатой в 420$ , купить её не реально. Вердикт крутая видюха но цена заграни!
What does that mean?
Sorry a little did not realize I wrote that the video card cool, but for the price for the Europeans (closer to RUSSIA) high, although this video card worth the money.
Thanks for clearing this up everybody. 
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/27 14:28:26
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Thanks rjbelans but for EU website, we don't have any choice to add to cart an item. There is no way to purchase it (for the french website). I try to get one of this card on the English (eu) website but i'm not sure they delivery this to France :( I hope i will see this card in France cause i love EVGA and i need to upgrade my 470 GTX SOC!
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/27 14:33:03
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/27 14:53:14
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Reference PCB and VRM's with slapped on swiftech block = Classified? ...woah really
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/27 18:56:49
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Any chance of being in stock again soon?
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/28 01:53:18
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Hellow guys i just order this morning a 590 classified edition but i've no confirmation that this is ok...
Where can i see it? I've received a mail from Paypal but 0 mail from EVGA.
It's just to be sure that i don't need to take an other card for nothing.
Thanks and have a good day =)
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/28 09:51:22
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2x 590's are definitely faster than 2x 580's, its a big difference in apps that make good use of SLI.
Yes very true the GTX 590's SLI for $1400 will have faster performance over two GTX 580's SLI for $1000, $400 difference.
For almost the same amount of money IF you can fit three and TRI SLI the GTX 580 it will be faster than two GTX 590's at a very close price point of $1500 vs $1400, $100 difference.
Showed visuals on this page four of this thread with AMD 6990's which is very close in performance to the GTX 590.
Absolutely..............two 590s SHOULD outperform two 580s, but holy crap, 1400+ dollars..... and name me one game wher you need QUAD-SLi. I can't find anything out that even makes my 580 SLi break a sweat. Two 580s WILL beat down one 590, no question, only advantage for the 590 is single PCI-e slot instaed of two for the 580s. The single AMD 6990 will most likely beat the 590, same price. Best three card performer, for 1000 dollars is the 6990 + 6970 from AMD.
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/28 12:02:35
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I want to get two to replace my old 295
I read 700w per card ???
Witch power suply you advice for two 590 ??
2000W ?
Thanks
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/28 15:20:44
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Each card does not require 700 watts. They recommend that you have a minimum of a 700 watt power supply, for your entire PC, if you plan on running 1 card. They also recommend you have at least a 12 volt rail with 50amps if you plan on running the card off a single rail. If you want to run the card of 2 rails, you probably need a minimum of (2) 12 volt rails at 25 amps. If you do the calculations, they want you to have at least a rail capable of supplying 600 watts, that would be 12watts x 50amps = 600 watts. Although, the card really shouldn't be pulling over 450ish at max load from some reviews I've seen. If you plan on doing Quad-SLI, I suggest you read the guide to building a Quad-SLI system... http://www.geforce.com/#/...force-gtx-590/overview Then click on the "How to build a Quad-SLI system" link. http://www.geforce.com/#/...uild-a-quad-sli-system It gives suggestions of PSU's that are certified by Nvidia and also Cases you should think about. I'm personally thinking about going to the Raven RV02 case, that thing is sweet! Whatever you do, I'd be sure I had a PSU capable of delivering at least 1200 watts to the 12 volt rail, which would be about 100amps, if it's a single rail PSU. There are plenty of PSU's out there with a 12volt rail with 100-104amps, which would cover you nicely. I personally have a 1200 watt PSU, with (4) 12volt rails at 40 amps. I would think about upgrading to a 1500watt PSU with a single rail if I were to do Quad-SLI personally. I think multi-rail's are ok, if you add your stuff up right, but single rails are worth the extra few dollars, keeps your calculations down to a minimum and you'll be safe in supplying your equipment with the power it needs. Watts = Amps x Voltage Amps = Wattage / Voltage I'm still curious to know how the GeForce light on the card works. Wouldn't mind someone like EVGA doing a video to show how it will flash if you put the card on a PSU that's not capable of delivering enough power. Keep in mind, PSU rating stickers are tricky, you have to keep in mind how much your system will drain also, without the video cards. There are plenty of websites out there that can calculate approx watt usage of your system, think Newegg even has one. Use them to add up your system, then add on the video cards separately.
post edited by jjarrette - 2011/03/28 15:34:34
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/28 15:52:28
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So my antec true powe quattro 1000W have 4 rail 12V that's a problem for one card?
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/28 16:02:46
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When are they in stock again?
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/28 16:04:23
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So my antec true powe quattro 1000W have 4 rail 12V that's a problem for one card?
Shouldn't be a problem, so long as you have an (2) 8-pin connectors, ***each coming from a separate 12 volt rail***. You don't want to run the card on a single rail, if the amperage of the rail isn't 50 amps. Combining 2 rails of 25 amps or greater should supply the needed power, 12 volts at 50 amps. I'm not an electrician, but I can do the math. Unless there's some unforeseen obstacle I'm missing here, I believe you just need to make sure you have 12 volts at 50 amps to the card, no matter how you do it. Nvidia is suggesting Power Supplies for the Quad-SLI setup, that do not have 50 amp rails, they have multiple rails at 30 amps each, that's what I'm basing my conclusion off of. For instance, Nvidia says you can use a Antec HCP-1200 power supply for Quad SLI. Well,, that power supply has (8) 12 volt rails at 30 amps each, from how I read the sticker on Newegg. So they're going to use 4 8-pin connectors from 4 different rails to supply the needed power for 2 video cards. You have to think about combined amperage when you supply power to the cards. What's the amperage on your 12 volt rails? 25 AMP's each? If so, and you have (1) 8-pin connector per rail, that would equal 50 amps if you used an 8-pin from 2 rails. As long as you have nothing else on the 2 rails besides your single GTX590, that should be fine. Keep in mind, sometimes the 1st 12 volt rail is shared with the other connectors for other stuff in your pc. So use rails 2 & 3 or 4.
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/29 05:36:50
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50amps if you plan on running the card off a single rail. If you want to run the card of 2 rails, you probably need a minimum of (2) 12 volt rails at 25 amps. If you do the calculations, they want you to have at least a rail capable of supplying 600 watts, that would be 12watts x 50amps = 600 watts. Although, the card really shouldn't be pulling over 450ish at max load from some reviews I've seen.
I don't understand what you mean by Rail... I already have a 1100W power supply for my two 295 protected by a 2000VA uninterruptible power supply. Do you think is enough ? I'm fed up to spend money for nothing and most of time to accumulate problems, like my 3rd screen that instead of displaying 3D it shows lef eye and righ eye frames together with my 2 295... Thanks for your answer Laurent
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Re:EVGA GTX 590 Classified and Hydro Copper!
2011/03/29 10:03:37
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50amps if you plan on running the card off a single rail. If you want to run the card of 2 rails, you probably need a minimum of (2) 12 volt rails at 25 amps. If you do the calculations, they want you to have at least a rail capable of supplying 600 watts, that would be 12watts x 50amps = 600 watts. Although, the card really shouldn't be pulling over 450ish at max load from some reviews I've seen.
I don't understand what you mean by Rail...
I already have a 1100W power supply for my two 295 protected by a 2000VA uninterruptible power supply.
Do you think is enough ?
I'm fed up to spend money for nothing and most of time to accumulate problems, like my 3rd screen that instead of displaying 3D it shows lef eye and righ eye frames together with my 2 295...
Thanks for your answer
Laurent
 Here is an example: This PSU has 4 rails: +12V1, +12V2, +12V3, +12V4 with each rail having 18.0A. For the case of this PSU, connecting one rail to one video card will provide up to 18.0A, connecting 2 rails to one video card will provide up to 36.0A, etc.
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