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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 13:33:12 (permalink)
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I actualy just lowered the memory clock from 600 to 400 and im get more MH 36.5 this is making my head spin trying to understand lol

It is tricky.  It is adjusting the memory "strap" (latency) versus frequency.  You will have to play around with it.  At higher memory frequency, you can bump up into the next "strap" where the latency increase negates the frequency increase.

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 13:33:50 (permalink)
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I actualy just lowered the memory clock from 600 to 400 and im get more MH 36.5 this is making my head spin trying to understand lol

Folks get annoyed with me when I tell them I have 600 amp 240v available at $0.053 per kw/hr.

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 13:39:16 (permalink)
thank you
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 13:40:58 (permalink)
 
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0.131229 kwh

Good that you know, now plug it into NiceHash as ty_ger07 is showing so you get a more accurate profitability.

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You can enter your cost per KWh in Nicehash and make it display net profit.  That will give you a better idea of where you are most profitable.  Otherwise, you will be fooled into thinking that more MH/s is more profitable because Nicehash will assume that your electricity is free.
 

 
That's why I am running mine down at only 33.8 MH/s.  It is more profitable for me down there.
 
 


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I actualy just lowered the memory clock from 600 to 400 and im get more MH 36.5 this is making my head spin trying to understand lol

Folks get annoyed with me when I tell them I have 600 amp 240v available at $0.053 per kw/hr.


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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 13:41:22 (permalink)
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You can't get the MH/s back up to 37 with the power at 144?

Also do you know what your $/kWh cost is?


i bumped the power from +80 to + 90 and MH seems to be floating around same 35.5 power 143 but ill give it 10-15 min or so atleast to see

With these setting you were getting 37MH/s

With these setting you're getting 35MH/s

Can you try the settings from the 37MHs picture again and see what happens?


i get 35.75
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 13:49:45 (permalink)
i put in the kwh as you instructed, just not sure where net profit is displayed, or is it automaticaly calculated already in the same location
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 13:51:10 (permalink)
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i put in the kwh as you instructed, just not sure where net profit is displayed, or is it automaticaly calculated already in the same location

It's under the "Devices" tab on the NiceHash miner.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 13:58:16 (permalink)
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I actualy just lowered the memory clock from 600 to 400 and im get more MH 36.5 this is making my head spin trying to understand lol

That's where I would stay then if the power is still 144. That's pretty good for a GTX 1080.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 14:19:45 (permalink)
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I actualy just lowered the memory clock from 600 to 400 and im get more MH 36.5 this is making my head spin trying to understand lol

That's where I would stay then if the power is still 144. That's pretty good for a GTX 1080.




Looks like I get the most profit at +90 power , clock -400 and memory offset to 100
if i bump those up the MH stays around the same but the profit dips little bit, not sure if that is normal also afrer 15 minutes it went up to 36.5 yup head spininh still lol
 
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 14:36:55 (permalink)
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also afrer 15 minutes it went up to 36.5 yup head spininh still lol



The profitability also changes based on the market and how many buyers Nicehash has at any one time.  You will see some exciting spikes sometimes, and then it will settle back down to where you were before, even though you didn't do anything differently on your end.

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 14:38:50 (permalink)
gotcha, greatly apretiated all the tips from you guys getting me on the right track, great help
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 14:45:44 (permalink)
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also afrer 15 minutes it went up to 36.5 yup head spininh still lol



The profitability also changes based on the market and how many buyers Nicehash has at any one time.  You will see some exciting spikes sometimes, and then it will settle back down to where you were before, even though you didn't do anything differently on your end.




ty_ger07 is correct. Profitability will fluctuate, so set it to where you're at 36.5MH/s.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 15:16:02 (permalink)
do you know how dual gpu works? ive never had 2 gpus in before, was wondering if its just mater of pluging them in , wasnt sure how clocking them individualy works etc.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 15:45:25 (permalink)
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do you know how dual gpu works? ive never had 2 gpus in before, was wondering if its just mater of pluging them in , wasnt sure how clocking them individualy works etc.

You will plug it in like normal, but clock them separately.
 

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/01/31 15:52:34 (permalink)
awrsome thanks
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/03 08:45:20 (permalink)
I dont have much BTC in there yet about 20$ or so, not sure the minimum to withdraw i think it is .001 but looks like they charge you if you withdraw more then .001, whats the best method or when to withdraw to coinbase based on your experience?
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/03 09:02:57 (permalink)
It depends on your goals.  If you want to store the Bitcoin somewhere as an investment, transfer it to your own personal wallet.  Do NOT keep it stored in Nicehash or Coinbase or Kraken or any exchange for any length of time.  You can create a "paper wallet" which is essentially just a random address (public key) and the associated private key you store (printed on a piece of paper) in a safe for future transfers.
 
Or, if you are planning to sell right away, create a "wallet" on an exchange, transfer straight to that wallet, and then sell it immediately.
When cryptocurrency is stolen, it is stolen while it is in an exchange or a 3rd-party wallet (like Nicehash, Coinbase, Kraken, etcetera).  Don't keep your cryptocurrency there.
 
What I am doing is transferring it from Nicehash as soon as I reach 0.001 BTC, straight to a Kraken wallet, then immediately exchanging it for XMR, and transferring it to my personal Monero wallet.  Monero has a lot of growth potential, in my opinion, so I am using mining as a way to get XMR for a fraction of its price (paying like $0.35 in electricity for $1.00 in Monero) and keeping it as an investment I will transfer back to an exchange in the future and sell.
 
It's wise to minimize the number of transfers.  Try to get to your end-goal in the least number of steps.  Each step has a fee.  In my case, I am doing two extra steps which I could avoid by just keeping it in Kraken, but fortunately Monero transfer fees are tiny and not even worth worrying about, and it isn't safe to keep the crypto in Kraken for an extended period of time.  Bitcoin, on the other hand, has considerably higher fees.  Avoid lots of Bitcoin transfer steps.
 
 
I don't think there are any meaningful benefits fee-wise if you wait to transfer 0.01 BTC from Nicehash instead of 0.001 BTC from Nicehash.  I just transfer it off of Nicehash as soon as possible for safety-sake as I don't think there is any benefit to fewer transfers, fee-wise (fees are based on network load, not a fixed price, and vary wildly).
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/03 10:22:58 (permalink)
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I dont have much BTC in there yet about 20$ or so, not sure the minimum to withdraw i think it is .001 but looks like they charge you if you withdraw more then .001, whats the best method or when to withdraw to coinbase based on your experience?

Yes the withdraw min is 0.001, but connect your Coinbase account at NiceHash and NiceHash transfers your Bitcoin to Coinbase with ZERO fees. Sell the Bitcoin and Coinbase will send the money to your PayPal account with ZERO fees. Then have PayPal send the money to your bank account with ZERO fees.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/03 11:14:31 (permalink)
I haven't tried Coinbase in years.  I will give that a try in a couple of days.
 
EDIT:
Coinbase doesn't seem to be an option for me; because Coinbase doesn't seem to allow sending out Monero.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/03 13:21:20 (permalink)
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I haven't tried Coinbase in years.  I will give that a try in a couple of days.
 
EDIT:
Coinbase doesn't seem to be an option for me; because Coinbase doesn't seem to allow sending out Monero.


Why not just mine on NiceHash and have the Monero you mined paid to you in Bitcoin, then you can send the Bitcoin to Coinbase and sell it?
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/03 13:44:57 (permalink)
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I haven't tried Coinbase in years.  I will give that a try in a couple of days.
 
EDIT:
Coinbase doesn't seem to be an option for me; because Coinbase doesn't seem to allow sending out Monero.


Why not just mine on NiceHash and have the Monero you mined paid to you in Bitcoin, then you can send the Bitcoin to Coinbase and sell it?


I am mining Ethereum with Nicehash, paid in Bitcoin, and then I am selling the Bitcoin to buy Monero.  I am not trying to sell Monero.  I am trying to own Monero.  I could just buy Monero; but if I mine, I can get Monero for a fraction of the price.  I want to own Monero because it has the chance of increasing in price significanlty in the future once Monero to Bitcoin atomic swaps are implemented.  I could transfer Bitcoin from Nicehash to Coinbase, and then trade the Bitcoin for Monero, but then it would be stuck just sitting there on Coinbase until I decide that the time is right to sell the Monero.  But I am not comfortable keeping currency at a address I don't have control over.  Exchanges and wallet services are where cyrpto is stolen.  There are too many people involved to trust that the private key is safely stored.
Ultimately I need to be able to transfer Monero to my personal Monero address, and Coinbase is not capable of doing that.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/03 13:59:24 (permalink)
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I haven't tried Coinbase in years.  I will give that a try in a couple of days.
 
EDIT:
Coinbase doesn't seem to be an option for me; because Coinbase doesn't seem to allow sending out Monero.


Why not just mine on NiceHash and have the Monero you mined paid to you in Bitcoin, then you can send the Bitcoin to Coinbase and sell it?


I am mining Ethereum with Nicehash, paid in Bitcoin, and then I am selling the Bitcoin to buy Monero.  I am not trying to sell Monero.  I am trying to own Monero.  I could just buy Monero; but if I mine, I can get Monero for a fraction of the price.  I want to own Monero because it has the chance of increasing in price significanlty in the future once Monero to Bitcoin atomic swaps are implemented.  I could transfer Bitcoin from Nicehash to Coinbase, and then trade the Bitcoin for Monero, but then it would be stuck just sitting there on Coinbase until I decide that the time is right to sell the Monero.  But I am not comfortable keeping currency at a address I don't have control over.  Exchanges and wallet services are where cyrpto is stolen.  There are too many people involved to trust that the private key is safely stored.
Ultimately I need to be able to transfer Monero to my personal Monero address, and Coinbase is not capable of doing that.


I'd skip NiceHash then and mine from a pool and have that pool send the Ethereum to your exchange wallet and then turn the Ethereum into Monero soon as the pool transfers it to the exchange and then send the Monero to your personal wallet. That would cut out NiceHash and some transfer fees.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/03 14:11:57 (permalink)
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I haven't tried Coinbase in years.  I will give that a try in a couple of days.
 
EDIT:
Coinbase doesn't seem to be an option for me; because Coinbase doesn't seem to allow sending out Monero.


Why not just mine on NiceHash and have the Monero you mined paid to you in Bitcoin, then you can send the Bitcoin to Coinbase and sell it?


I am mining Ethereum with Nicehash, paid in Bitcoin, and then I am selling the Bitcoin to buy Monero.  I am not trying to sell Monero.  I am trying to own Monero.  I could just buy Monero; but if I mine, I can get Monero for a fraction of the price.  I want to own Monero because it has the chance of increasing in price significanlty in the future once Monero to Bitcoin atomic swaps are implemented.  I could transfer Bitcoin from Nicehash to Coinbase, and then trade the Bitcoin for Monero, but then it would be stuck just sitting there on Coinbase until I decide that the time is right to sell the Monero.  But I am not comfortable keeping currency at a address I don't have control over.  Exchanges and wallet services are where cyrpto is stolen.  There are too many people involved to trust that the private key is safely stored.
Ultimately I need to be able to transfer Monero to my personal Monero address, and Coinbase is not capable of doing that.


I'd skip NiceHash then and mine from a pool and have that pool send the Ethereum to your exchange wallet and then turn the Ethereum into Monero soon as the pool transfers it to the exchange and then send the Monero to your personal wallet. That would cut out NiceHash and some transfer fees.


Yeah, I thought about it, but I figure the difference in fees is only about 2% in the grand scheme of things, and I can't be bothered.  What I am doing right now is essentially getting Monero for 50% of its regular price and hoping to sell it for 400% profit (or more), so 398% profit versus 400% profit really is nothing in the grand scheme of things.  I can't be bothered.  Nicehash makes it too easy.
 
EDIT:
Maybe I am wrong.  I'll look into it.  I was only thinking about the part Nicehash takes.  I wasn't thinking about the savings possible by skipping Bitcoin completely.  The Bitcoin transfer is where I am losing most to fees anyway; because Bitcoin fees are nuts.  If I go straight from Ethereum to Monero, the lack of Bitcoin in the middle would save me about 9% on fees.  I'll give it a try tomorrow after my current Nicehash balance can be withdrawn.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/03 14:30:36 (permalink)
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I haven't tried Coinbase in years.  I will give that a try in a couple of days.
 
EDIT:
Coinbase doesn't seem to be an option for me; because Coinbase doesn't seem to allow sending out Monero.


Why not just mine on NiceHash and have the Monero you mined paid to you in Bitcoin, then you can send the Bitcoin to Coinbase and sell it?


I am mining Ethereum with Nicehash, paid in Bitcoin, and then I am selling the Bitcoin to buy Monero.  I am not trying to sell Monero.  I am trying to own Monero.  I could just buy Monero; but if I mine, I can get Monero for a fraction of the price.  I want to own Monero because it has the chance of increasing in price significanlty in the future once Monero to Bitcoin atomic swaps are implemented.  I could transfer Bitcoin from Nicehash to Coinbase, and then trade the Bitcoin for Monero, but then it would be stuck just sitting there on Coinbase until I decide that the time is right to sell the Monero.  But I am not comfortable keeping currency at a address I don't have control over.  Exchanges and wallet services are where cyrpto is stolen.  There are too many people involved to trust that the private key is safely stored.
Ultimately I need to be able to transfer Monero to my personal Monero address, and Coinbase is not capable of doing that.


I'd skip NiceHash then and mine from a pool and have that pool send the Ethereum to your exchange wallet and then turn the Ethereum into Monero soon as the pool transfers it to the exchange and then send the Monero to your personal wallet. That would cut out NiceHash and some transfer fees.


Yeah, I thought about it, but I figure the difference in fees is only about 2% in the grand scheme of things, and I can't be bothered.  What I am doing right now is essentially getting Monero for 50% of its regular price and hoping to sell it for 400% profit (or more), so 398% profit versus 400% profit really is nothing in the grand scheme of things.  I can't be bothered.  Nicehash makes it too easy.
 
EDIT:
Maybe I am wrong.  I'll look into it.  I was only thinking about the part Nicehash takes.  I wasn't thinking about the savings possible by skipping Bitcoin completely.  The Bitcoin transfer is where I am losing most to fees anyway.  If I can go straight from Ethereum to Monero, that should be a decent savings.


Exactly, you're paying way more in fees then you think. NiceHash fee to exchange your Ethereum to Bitcoin, then the transfer fee of the Bitcoin, don't know if you're sending it to your personal wallet or straight to an exchange, but if it's going to your personal wallet then you send it to an exchange, you're getting double fees on Bitcoin which isn't cheap. Your probably way over 2% in fees and if you really hit it big and got that 400% increase and say you hit $2 million, well you lost $40,000 in fees at the minimum.
 
I never let anything sit in the exchange wallet. Soon as it hits Coinbase I sell it and send the money to PayPal. It's easy to setup a miner bat file and have the pool send the Ethereum straight to your preferred exchange wallet.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/03 16:50:55 (permalink)
I'm there.  I switched 2 out of 3 of my machines over to the ethermine pool about 2 hours ago.  I have no idea why I didn't do this years ago. lol
My 3rd machine will just mine Nicehash until I reach 0.001 BTC on Nicehash, and then I will switch it over too.
 

 
I didn't even download anything additional.  I am just entering a different pool and ethereum address into the NB Miner which came with Nicehash.
 
"C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\Programs\NiceHash Miner\miner_plugins\f683f550-94eb-11ea-a64d-17be303ea466\bins\15.10\NBMiner_Win\nbminer.exe" -a ethash -o ethproxy+tcp://us2.ethermine.org:4444 -u 0x.....Rig --memory-tweak 6 --intensity 100 --fee 1

 
Ethermine seemed like a good choice.  It is popular, has a 1% pool fee, has US servers, and will pay out to my Kraken ethereum address weekly as long as my weekly balance is over 0.01 ethereum.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/03 17:22:38 (permalink)
FYI: NiceHash is running an older version of nbminer. You might want to download the latest version and give it a go. Download the new version, unzip it.
 
Stop your miner and go into the directory C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\Programs\NiceHash Miner\miner_plugins\f683f550-94eb-11ea-a64d-17be303ea466\bins\15.10\NBMiner_Win and make a folder and name it Old.
 
Move these files into the Old folder modify_tdr_delay.reg and nbminer.exe
 
Now go to the newer unzipped nbminer and copy modify_tdr_delay.reg and nbminer.exe into C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\Programs\NiceHash Miner\miner_plugins\f683f550-94eb-11ea-a64d-17be303ea466\bins\15.10\NBMiner_Win
 
Start your bat file and you will be running the current latest version of nbminer.
 
Download the newer nbminer here https://github.com/NebuTech/NBMiner/releases/tag/v36.1
 
If you don't think the newer version is running better for you delete the newer files and restore the older files from the Old folder.
 
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/03 17:40:48 (permalink)
It's not an old version.  Nicehash's NBMiner "v15.10" is using NBMiner version 36.1.  I don't know why Nicehash decides to add its own version numbers.

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/04 06:35:01 (permalink)
I use Coinomi is that a safe wallet to transfer my bitcoin from nicehash for the moment?
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/04 20:30:52 (permalink)
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I use Coinomi is that a safe wallet to transfer my bitcoin from nicehash for the moment?

It's not a safe wallet.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080SC + Mining Question 2021/02/05 09:53:09 (permalink)
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I'm there.  I switched 2 out of 3 of my machines over to the ethermine pool about 2 hours ago.  I have no idea why I didn't do this years ago. lol
My 3rd machine will just mine Nicehash until I reach 0.001 BTC on Nicehash, and then I will switch it over too.
 

 
I didn't even download anything additional.  I am just entering a different pool and ethereum address into the NB Miner which came with Nicehash.
 
"C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\Programs\NiceHash Miner\miner_plugins\f683f550-94eb-11ea-a64d-17be303ea466\bins\15.10\NBMiner_Win\nbminer.exe" -a ethash -o ethproxy+tcp://us2.ethermine.org:4444 -u 0x.....Rig --memory-tweak 6 --intensity 100 --fee 1

 
Ethermine seemed like a good choice.  It is popular, has a 1% pool fee, has US servers, and will pay out to my Kraken ethereum address weekly as long as my weekly balance is over 0.01 ethereum.


How is your Average speed compared to your Reported speed on Ethermine?
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