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2020/09/17 20:05:31 (permalink)
First off, I'm happy that the FTW3 got the best results on Tech Jesus' live stream today (GamersNexus is the best). I know today has been stressful for you all at EVGA today, but hey something good still happened today. I still think you all are a good company that has their customer's back, and that y'all just kind of got the short end of the stick on launch today and that it wasn't your fault. There were a lot of bots out today, and Nvidia most likely didn't give y'all enough stock to work with on top of everything (and idk what kind of guidelines y'all have to work with put in place by Nvidia this time around). Y'all were put between a rock and a hard place, and I just wanted y'all to know that y'all still make quality products and today was just a bump in the road. Y'all have been there for me in the past (just became a member a month ago) and worked with me when I was wanting to return a 2070 super I had recently ordered. Things are tough for everyone right now including myself during this COVID stuff, and I just wanted to let y'all know that there was still something good that came from today. Thanks and keep doing what y'all do. 

I've had my eyes on the 3090 from the get go, so whether I get it on launch, or later on, I'll be fine lol. Also would be cool to see what AMD has around the corner too! Its going to be an interesting Fall
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/17 20:59:29 (permalink)
How was today in any way stressful for EVGA? They've made zero headway in fixing their terrible web store over all of these years. The only one's stressed were consumers. 
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/18 01:21:00 (permalink)
to be fair ftw3 was the only flagship card at tech jesus stream. Need to compare with Asus Strix OC, MSI Gaming X Trio and Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme.

FTW3 is the only one with extra temp sensors, already has plenty of VRMs and cooling seems to be a non issue since the high power target seems to come mainly from the GDDR6x and the cut down chip is quite big. So FTW3 was the right choice anyway for me, especially with step up if a 20 gb version comes soon.
So only thing limiting the FTW3 is the already quite high 420w power target, not sure if I even want to produce more juice.
Hope to find 500 -1000w bios soon though since I like maxing out the voltage, not to say that my 750w bequiet straight power platinum could handle that
post edited by Lokator - 2020/09/18 01:23:22
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/18 01:59:45 (permalink)
Did he use the ultra or the regular ftw3 model?
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/18 02:02:50 (permalink)
ultra I think
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/18 06:17:20 (permalink)
I think it was the lower of the two or at least I was hoping it was as the gains where nothing I would jump up and down over.
 
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/18 06:40:19 (permalink)
I believe it was FTW Ultra. When he was on the phone with Jacob, Jacob said their target range is different due to EVGA's base clock is higher. So 110% will be higher than 120% for Gigabyte. 



 
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/18 06:41:23 (permalink)

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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/18 06:44:04 (permalink)
They 100% have their customers' backs, and thats why Im trying to stay with them if I can. They were nice enough to replace my broken 980ti with a 1080 so many years back, and thanks to them my last real card purchase was in 2015.
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/18 06:46:40 (permalink)
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They 100% have their customers' backs, and thats why Im trying to stay with them if I can. They were nice enough to replace my broken 980ti with a 1080 so many years back, and thanks to them my last real card purchase was in 2015.




GamersNexus's new video his this well. If you (not you, in general) are this seething and foaming at the mouth over not getting a card at launch, you probably have some other issues that need to be taken care of. It is just a card. There will be more. Relax and try again. EVGA is doing their best, no one could expect this demand.



 
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/18 07:03:24 (permalink)
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How was today in any way stressful for EVGA? They've made zero headway in fixing their terrible web store over all of these years. The only one's stressed were consumers. 


Well to be fair, Evga is stress because it is their job. But if we are stress as consumers because we couldn't of buy a "want", we need to re-evaluate ourselves as a society. And before you comeback with an attack, this is not an indictment against you, but this is for everyone in general. I was disappointed that Sony made a mess of ps5 launch and because of that I couldn't get one for the kids and myself. I will probably get disappointed when I try to for a 3090 next week lol. But you know what, I'll go play with my 2080ti and go take a jog and spend time with the dogs. Life move on, and I know I will eventually get what I want. But no need to stress over things like this. There is more beauty to life, so go enjoy it!
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/18 07:17:49 (permalink)
rumor has it that the 3090s will OC better
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/18 08:18:37 (permalink)
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rumor has it that the 3090s will OC better


I think that might the selling point of 3090s and give it some space between them and the 3080s performance wise overall. But who knows, all speculation at this point. Hopefully I can test it out first hands next week if I can get a 3090 ftw or Strix and put under water.
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/18 14:24:04 (permalink)
I think everything will be ok, I've never bought a card on launch and only considered it this time around for the 3090 (3080 10GB VRAM and no SLI was not enough for what I need). With the 3090 being 1500-1700 and having the same if not better specs than a $2000 or more Titan, its within my means and I can honestly wait for it. Been also considering just getting 2x 2080ti, but idk how capable SLI is with those and deep learning. Would you all have any info or opinion on this? 
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/19 00:29:31 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby vapingforjesus 2020/09/19 16:28:05
Sli is dead, Nvidia killed it. No SLI driver support from January 2021. Only native implementations from devs in dx12 games, which often wont happen.

I would say SLI is from now on only for productivity stuff.

https://videocardz.com/pr...tive-game-integrations
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/19 05:22:48 (permalink)
Strate from his video he says We're overclocking the EVGA FTW3, ASUS TUF, and Gigabyte Eagle variations of NVIDIA's RTX 3080 GPU (and using the stock coolers).
aso go back and watch the video at 1 :50 - Model introduction it was not the FTW3 ULTRA
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/19 05:31:55 (permalink)
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Strate from his video he says We're overclocking the EVGA FTW3, ASUS TUF, and Gigabyte Eagle variations of NVIDIA's RTX 3080 GPU (and using the stock coolers).
aso go back and watch the video at 1 :50 - Model introduction it was not the FTW3 ULTRA



According to a Jacobs twitter, it is a FTW3 Ultra.
 
I'm still wondering the actual difference between a FTW3 and FTW3 Ultra. Everybody says it's just a higher factory OC, but why does that matter, if the GPU clocks itself anyways? It's gotta be something to do with the chip, how do they determine which chip goes to a what box?
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/19 08:28:41 (permalink)
YURIIIIAccording to a Jacobs twitter, it is a FTW3 Ultra.
 
I'm still wondering the actual difference between a FTW3 and FTW3 Ultra. Everybody says it's just a higher factory OC, but why does that matter, if the GPU clocks itself anyways? It's gotta be something to do with the chip, how do they determine which chip goes to a what box?



They test the chip. If it doesn't have a high confidence of being stable at the advertised overclock, they won't use it in the Ultra version. FTW3 (non-Ultra version) can have chips just as good as the Ultra, but they could have chips that didn't or wouldn't pass test for Ultra.
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/19 08:51:34 (permalink)
The entire point of GN's oc test was to bin them to see which had a higher chance to perform under LN2. Evga won. So I'm just gonna take it as "Evga is king woooo" and then cover my ears and go lalalalla.



 
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/19 08:54:10 (permalink)
I went back and looked on this Twitter page I couldn't find that maybe you could do us a flavor send us a link or a screenshot I'm probably looking over top of it but I don't see what you're talking about with him saying that it was a ultra
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/19 11:20:39 (permalink)
I have really changed my mind and really want the FTW.. The problem is that putting your eggs in all one basket usually results in failure.. I want it, but pretty sure its not going to happen.. And the fact that its the only Step Up in the Step up program means its going to be even harder to get.  Since a lot of people bought the 2080 Supers and 2070 Supers just to get into the Step Up Cue.

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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/19 15:36:54 (permalink)
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I went back and looked on this Twitter page I couldn't find that maybe you could do us a flavor send us a link or a screenshot I'm probably looking over top of it but I don't see what you're talking about with him saying that it was a ultra



 
 
 
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/19 16:38:39 (permalink)
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The entire point of GN's oc test was to bin them to see which had a higher chance to perform under LN2. Evga won. So I'm just gonna take it as "Evga is king woooo" and then cover my ears and go lalalalla.

tbf if he just runs them stock on LN2, okay... otherwise he should have used the voltage/frequency curve and test which chip can run the max frequency at given voltage, which he did not do... so I would not call that binning the best card for ln2 oc....

he just pressed the clock offset button and the card with the highest power limit won... that was not binning... we just saw which card performs best out of the box and since FTW3 was the only top dog of the 3 brands it was an easy win for evga....

I mean the MSI Gaming X Trio was not better than the Asus TUF in other reviews, so it is good that EVGA FTW3 beats it, that was well done then.

Asus Strix and Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme are still in the ring
post edited by Lokator - 2020/09/19 16:42:08
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/26 10:08:04 (permalink)
I agree the communication is great, but the bottom line is the website just stinks. hopefully they can fix it.
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Re: EVGA FTW3 IS KING! I Don't Have It, But Hey Something Good Happened Today 2020/09/27 20:07:01 (permalink)
We will know if a day or three.  Hopefully just one day.  But, yes, I am hoping against hope that the website is "enhanced".

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