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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 13:43:31
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Big update to the queue system today per EVGA_JacobF:
In an effort to expedite those in queue who are still waiting for a EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series Card, and to be fair to all EVGA customers, EVGA is making a change to how they service the queues:
- EVGA accounts that have NOT purchased an EVGA 30 series card yet as part of the queue will be prioritized ahead of accounts that have already purchased a 30 series card through the queue.
- Accounts that have already purchased an EVGA 30 series card in the queue system, will be behind those who have not.
Notes: B-Stock (RX) or Step-Up 30 Series products will not affect queue positions.
EVGA’s purpose for this change is to accelerate the total number of gamers that have received at least one EVGA GeForce RTX 30 series card through the queue.
To make this change this late in the game literally invalidates every tool we have for tracking GPU drops and is quite frankly a terrible change. Enewts google doc was the last vestage of sanity as far as guestimating when your time was coming up and was an invaluable tool for the community as a whole and EVGA came and pissed all over it. Lets not forget about people helping friends/family get GPUs as well, as they are now being punished for helping others who couldnt F5 their way through a crashing site while waiting on the card they wanted to drop in the queue. Bad form EVGA.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 13:45:11
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DarkRayne
Sure, but if someone is aiming to maximize their return on time to scalp, having multiple accounts is a surefire way to go. Whereas normal people in a household with others may only have a single account. I'm in queue for myself and another adult I live with and have been for months and months. Sure, that makes me an edge case and I get it. But I honestly don't think this *specific* change will have a large net positive impact. There's not really much EVGA could do to solve things; they could handle edge cases like mine privately via support tickets maybe, and also do better verification of not having multiple accounts by the same person.
icehotshot
Seems like this is good for scalpers and bots as they most likely already had multiple accounts so they are now going to be prioritized over an elite member who bought a 3060 not knowing how long of a wait it was going to be for a 3080. There isn't a perfect system, this change is no different.
This change will get more ACCOUNTS a card, but not necessarily more INDIVIDUALS/GAMERS.
Yeah you guys get it. The que system started on Oct 5th 2020. Any real serious people signed up that day, then the days of product drop, along with a bunch of scalpers. But the scalpers kept signing up fake accounts, thousands of them. For months after.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 13:47:11
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DarkRayne
Sure, but if someone is aiming to maximize their return on time to scalp, having multiple accounts is a surefire way to go. Whereas normal people in a household with others may only have a single account. I'm in queue for myself and another adult I live with and have been for months and months. Sure, that makes me an edge case and I get it. But I honestly don't think this *specific* change will have a large net positive impact. There's not really much EVGA could do to solve things; they could handle edge cases like mine privately via support tickets maybe, and also do better verification of not having multiple accounts by the same person.
icehotshot
Seems like this is good for scalpers and bots as they most likely already had multiple accounts so they are now going to be prioritized over an elite member who bought a 3060 not knowing how long of a wait it was going to be for a 3080. There isn't a perfect system, this change is no different.
This change will get more ACCOUNTS a card, but not necessarily more INDIVIDUALS/GAMERS.
Yeah you guys get it. The que system started on Oct 5th 2021. Any real serious people signed up that day, then the days of product drop, along with a bunch of scalpers. But the scalpers kept signing up fake accounts, thousands of them. For months after.
Let the bullet fly for a while. If the queue indeed moves way faster than before, then it is a good move. If the queue still moves slowly, then there is a question on are real gamers getting the cards?
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 13:50:08
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First off I'd like to say to enewt, great job for the community effort to try and make sense of the queue. Although moving forward I don't know how relevant or accurate any people's report will be since there seems to be sub queues now depending on whether or not it's your first notify or not.
Secondly, all you people whining and complaining how this isn't fair with the new change despite some of you already have been able to purchase 1, 2 or even 3, 30 series cards, time to get over it. I know people that have been in these damn queues since LAST year who still haven't been called for ANY purchase. Yet you want to complain about not being able to get a 2nd or 3rd? I'm glad EVGA is making these changes and taking money out of scalpers pockets.
It's really "odd" that how every time we see a big movement in any of the queues that strangely I also see a huge influx of eBay listings for "Brand new EVGA 30XX" card with ridiculous markups. Coincidence? I think not 
Agreed and Reddit also coincidence I think not Still waiting on my first 30 series buy notification. I like what Evga is doing if you have gotten one good for and if you haven't this is good for you too. 
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 13:52:52
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It's really "odd" that how every time we see a big movement in any of the queues that strangely I also see a huge influx of eBay listings for "Brand new EVGA 30XX" card with ridiculous markups. Coincidence? I think not
If course not. The queue system is already flooded with scalpers and fake accounts. I'd say at least 50% of queue cards have already gone to pro scalpers. Thousands of them. But the latest change will ensure that 95%+ of them go to scalpers.
With the old system, there was nothing stopping an average, individual, real human, gamer from scalping every card they get from the queue after they get a card in their own rig.
I would not be surprised if there there are people who did "noble" things with the extra cards they bought from the queue. I would also not be surprised if there are people who bought a card for their own rig and then chose to make money on other cards they were able to get there-after.
The old system allowed people to do either or even both.
Sure, but if someone is aiming to maximize their return on time to scalp, having multiple accounts is a surefire way to go. Whereas normal people in a household with others may only have a single account. I'm in queue for myself and another adult I live with and have been for months and months. Sure, that makes me an edge case and I get it. But I honestly don't think this *specific* change will have a large net positive impact. There's not really much EVGA could do to solve things; they could handle edge cases like mine privately via support tickets maybe, and also do better verification of not having multiple accounts by the same person; but no matter what changes they make to the queue system scalpers have a profit motive to game the system, and for some scalping IS their job.
This "time to scalp" thing doesn't change with the new system. Scalpers had a better chance of getting cards with a bunch of fake accounts before the change too. The new system doesn't change that. The mix of humans bots and scalpers *already* in the queue before the new system is unchanged the number of cards that will go to that mix...whatever it is...is now less. Everyone in that mix should get *a* card sooner. Scalpers, bots and even gamers. The average gamers that have been in the queue forever will get cards sooner with this new system than they would have with the old system.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 13:56:38
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DarkRayne
Sure, but if someone is aiming to maximize their return on time to scalp, having multiple accounts is a surefire way to go. Whereas normal people in a household with others may only have a single account. I'm in queue for myself and another adult I live with and have been for months and months. Sure, that makes me an edge case and I get it. But I honestly don't think this *specific* change will have a large net positive impact. There's not really much EVGA could do to solve things; they could handle edge cases like mine privately via support tickets maybe, and also do better verification of not having multiple accounts by the same person.
icehotshot
Seems like this is good for scalpers and bots as they most likely already had multiple accounts so they are now going to be prioritized over an elite member who bought a 3060 not knowing how long of a wait it was going to be for a 3080. There isn't a perfect system, this change is no different.
This change will get more ACCOUNTS a card, but not necessarily more INDIVIDUALS/GAMERS.
Yeah you guys get it. The que system started on Oct 5th 2020. Any real serious people signed up that day, then the days of product drop, along with a bunch of scalpers. But the scalpers kept signing up fake accounts, thousands of them. For months after.
I'm thinking this could incubate a new black market where scalpers could sell the email and account with invitation to purchase emails in bulk to people who interest in scalping. And the people bought in bulk(cartel) will then find people who interest in helping cartel buying those cards and receive a share of incentives. Then the cartel can sell those cards to miners or on ebay.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 14:00:26
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Dumb, now been waiting for my 3080 3881 since 9/17/2020, but since I got a 3060 I am even farther behind. Makes no sense that I an actual loyal EVGA fan boy who signed up before the world knew anything about the queue system is being punished. So it was useless, my 9/17/2020 sign up means nothing to anyone who today over a year later signs up for 3881 gets it before me.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 14:02:03
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Dumb, now been waiting for my 3080 3881 since 9/17/2020, but since I got a 3060 I am even farther behind. Makes no sense that I an actual loyal EVGA fan boy who signed up before the world knew anything about the queue system is being punished. So it was useless, my 9/17/2020 sign up means nothing to anyone who today over a year later signs up for 3881 gets it before me.
There are many people who got a 3060 while waiting for a higher tier card just like you. If that can make you feel a little bit better.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 14:02:32
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So to clarify, i have been in the 3080 queue for a year (10G-P5-3895-KR - 10/15/2020, 10G-P5-3897-KL - 10/11/2020), then got lucky and got a 3070 by newegg shuffle, added this to my profile for warranty etc. I received two notifications but DID NOT buy ( 3070 and 3090), Does this mean i will be pushed to the back of the line now?
No. This only affects people that have completed a purchase from the notification queue. Purchasing it from another reseller does not affect your current position. Also, skipping notifications does not affect your position in the queue. The only thing that will affect your position is accepting the notification link and completing your purchase.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 14:08:47
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This "time to scalp" thing doesn't change with the new system. Scalpers had a better chance of getting cards with a bunch of fake accounts before the change too. The new system doesn't change that.
The mix of humans bots and scalpers *already* in the queue before the new system is unchanged the number of cards that will go to that mix...whatever it is...is now less.
Everyone in that mix should get *a* card sooner. Scalpers, bots and even gamers.
The average gamers that have been in the queue forever will get cards sooner with this new system than they would have with the old system.
You misunderstand the ratios. The scalpers and bot users signed up tons of fake accounts on product drop days, but then kept signing them up on the months after. Having a backstopped fake identity, payment method and shipping address is critical for online scalpers, but it takes time to arrange all of them. Probably at a rate twenty times that of all the normal people. When was the last time your heard about someone buying a card on Amazon? The same thing is happening in the EVGA Queues, but in slow motion.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 14:13:45
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DarkRayne
Sure, but if someone is aiming to maximize their return on time to scalp, having multiple accounts is a surefire way to go. Whereas normal people in a household with others may only have a single account. I'm in queue for myself and another adult I live with and have been for months and months. Sure, that makes me an edge case and I get it. But I honestly don't think this *specific* change will have a large net positive impact. There's not really much EVGA could do to solve things; they could handle edge cases like mine privately via support tickets maybe, and also do better verification of not having multiple accounts by the same person.
icehotshot
Seems like this is good for scalpers and bots as they most likely already had multiple accounts so they are now going to be prioritized over an elite member who bought a 3060 not knowing how long of a wait it was going to be for a 3080. There isn't a perfect system, this change is no different.
This change will get more ACCOUNTS a card, but not necessarily more INDIVIDUALS/GAMERS.
Yeah you guys get it. The que system started on Oct 5th 2020. Any real serious people signed up that day, then the days of product drop, along with a bunch of scalpers. But the scalpers kept signing up fake accounts, thousands of them. For months after.
Well I entered later due to being jobless and having a (at the time) functional card and not imagining that cards queued for last year would still be not shipped nearly a year later...
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 14:19:03
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I entered back in April because I was still finishing my last semester of University. I also wasn't sure how long it would take for me to get a job since I finished back in May. Thankfully I now have a job that I will be starting in a week but I am not sure if I will have to move out of state or not. My current build is: i5-6600k, GTX 1070 FE, 16 GB Ram, 1080p 60Hz monitor as the core components. As long as I know that I will be able to stay where I currently am for work then I can upgrade my computer with the income that I will be getting.
12G-P5-4877-KL 1/11/2022 7:19:51 AM PT 10G-P5-3897-KL 4/22/2021 3:33:42 PM PT
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 14:28:30
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kevinc313
You misunderstand the ratios. The scalpers and bot users signed up tons of fake accounts on product drop days, but then kept signing them up on the months after. Having a backstopped fake identity, payment method and shipping address is critical for online scalpers, but it takes time to arrange all of them. Probably at a rate twenty times that of all the normal people.
When was the last time your heard about someone buying a card on Amazon? The same thing is happening in the EVGA Queues, but in slow motion.
For all the actual gamers that have not yet received a buy email as of the change in the system, the mix of accounts ahead of them in the queue is unchanged. But now, all the accounts ahead of them....real, fake, whatever they are...can only buy one GPU and the line will move more quickly.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 14:29:52
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Scalpers are in line either way. This stops them from being in every single SKU. Them having multiple fake accounts means those are also limited. Would've been better had they done two per household, or even one card per tier of GPU. It'd mean more room for abuse [than the new system] but less punishment to legit customers too.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 14:30:15
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DarkRayne
Well I entered later due to being jobless and having a (at the time) functional card and not imagining that cards queued for last year would still be not shipped nearly a year later...
Yeah it's a bummer, it's too bad that there are thousands of scalper accounts ahead of you.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 14:30:42
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Scalpers are in line either way. This stops them from being in every single SKU. Them having multiple fake accounts means those are also limited.
This.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 14:50:26
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EVGATech_LeeMNo. This only affects people that have completed a purchase from the notification queue. Purchasing it from another reseller does not affect your current position. Also, skipping notifications does not affect your position in the queue. The only thing that will affect your position is accepting the notification link and completing your purchase.
My bad, guess I should've paid twice MSRP on the 3080ti xc3 from "another reseller" for my brother in law so I could still have a shot at an MSRP priced card that I actually wanted, from a company I have supported for about a decade.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 15:02:03
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This is not how I had anticipated this week would progress. On the eve of the one year anniversary of the Queue announcement, EVGA materially changed the Queue rules without notice. Longtime EVGA consumers that had previously purchased a 30 series from the queue -- perhaps to tide themselves over until their preferred card’s queue reached them, to help out a friend/co-worker/or to play the “Don’t Come” bar against the community via scalping -- are left out in the cold. If I had my druthers, I would have made the change prospectively -- not retroactively -- so as to afford those EVGA account holders the opportunity to make an informed decision about whether to click the “buy” button for a lesser card than their preferred 30 series gpu, instead EVGA has left it for “ Jensen to sort them out.” Query whether EVGA didn’t make it a prospective change because: - it added an additional layer of complexity that made it too difficult to reasonably track;
- a prospective change didn’t model out sufficient improvement in getting queue sitters at least one card from the queue before: (i) the 40 series launches, (ii) the supply completely dries up, or (iii) the launch of Baywatch: Manheim Nursing Home Wading Pool -- as revivals go, that one is a clear sign of the apocalypse; or
- EVGA_JacobF got tired of drawing certain community members like his French girls and immediately needed some new material.
I am still digesting this change -- and haven’t yet had an opportunity to discuss with enewt jr. what it means for this summary effort -- but here are a few thoughts: - Effective immediately, the summary table will look different in the Google Docs version. The MPQ is faded in green as a placeholder which we will hopefully return to once the yet-to-purchase-a-card queue sitters are exhausted.
- The queues’ speed will ramp up (and continue to accelerate over time (notwithstanding major events in the timeline (e.g., Oct 5-7, 2020)) as more and more folks buy their first 30 series from the queue or “pass” to wait for their preferred SKU’s queue.
- It will be tougher and tougher to source reports for purposes of this summary...first time purchases and scalpers/bot owners with multiple “fresh” accounts are less likely to report back to the community. Expect an increase in days with no reports or fewer reports, as well as bigger jumps in the timeline when reports do reach me. My request to the community is to please report your original timestamp when you receive an “invite to purchase” email, even when you “pass” on it.
- There will be a lot of folks who, having not learned of this change, believe themselves skipped. Please let them down easy.
- Similarly, if you have friends in the queue that have not purchased a card, please take a moment to give them a heads-up in case they are in multiple queues and their preferred SKU is not likely to be the subject of the next invite to hit their inbox.
If I may just ask one last thing of those of us who -- like me -- are negatively impacted by this change (I bought my brother a card from the queue back in the fall of 2020)...the folks at EVGA are trying hard to maximize the opportunity for the greatest number of gamers. Not all of us may agree with this decision, but let’s please not demonize the folks who made it; I am 100% confident that this revision to the rules was made in good faith and in the belief that this will benefit the community at large. Finally, back on September 17, I mentioned that I had worked with EVGA on a t-shirt design to memorialize our time in the EVGA queue. With tomorrow being the one year anniversary of the Queue announcement, I plan on revealing the mock-up of the shirt in tomorrow evening’s summary intro. Best of luck! As of 2:55 pm PT Monday, October 4, this is the status of the North American queues (bolded font represents movement from the morning of October 4; italicized parentheticals calculate the length of movement from the prior report)): Card SKU Most Recent Registration Timestamp to Receive an Invite to Purchase email Ultra3090 FTW3 Ultra 3987 02/05/2021 00:06:00
3090 XC3 Ultra 3975 10/06/2020 16:08:40
3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra 3967 06/03/2021 08:56:58 (00:00:46)
3080 FTW3 Ultra 3897-KL 10/06/2020 23:42:03 3080 XC3 Ultra 3885-KL 09/19/2020 13:17:59
3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra 3797 06/10/2021 06:54:073070 Ti XC3 Ultra 3785 06/15/2021 09:29:303070 FTW3 Ultra 3767-KL 12/10/2020 15:13:31
3070 XC3 Ultra 3755-KL 12/07/2020 21:53:31 (40:12:21)3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra 3667-KL 12/01/2020 20:25:54
Gaming3090 FTW3 Gaming 3985 09/24/2020 16:12:06 3090 XC3 Gaming 3973 09/24/2020 00:00:003080 Ti XC3 Gaming 3953 06/30/2021 06:36:46 3080 FTW3 Gaming 3895 09/21/2020 09:57:19 3080 XC3 Gaming 3883 09/16/2020 11:14:32 3070 Ti XC3 Gaming 3783 06/30/2021 06:29:45
3070 XC3 Gaming 3753 10/29/2020 06:21:40 3060 Ti FTW3 Gaming 3665 12/08/2020 18:52:16
3060 Ti XC3 Gaming 3663-KL 12/02/2020 05:31:19
3060 XC Gaming 3657 05/13/2021 10:35:38
Black3090 XC3 Black 3971 09/24/2020 00:00:00 3080 XC3 Black 3881-KL 09/16/2020 16:07:01 3070 XC3 Black 3751 10/29/2020 06:31:11 3060 XC Black 3655 02/25/2021 09:09:15
Hybrid
3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid 3988 12/29/2020 19:39:00
3090 XC3 Ultra Hybrid 3978 12/20/2020 05:03:483080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Hybrid 3968 06/03/2021 07:52:39
3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hybrid 3958 06/03/2021 08:09:49
3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid 3898-KL 12/16/ 2020 09:14:543080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid 3888-KL 12/10/2020 09:15:55 Hydro Copper 3090 FTW 3 Ultra HC 3989 04/15/2021 10:00:29 3090 XC3 Ultra HC 3979 06/23/2021 06:00:09 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra HC 3969 06/03/2021 07:54:47
3080 Ti XC3 Ultra HC 3959 06/15/2021 10:29:10
3080 FTW3 Ultra HC 3899 06/23/2021 06:00:15 3080 XC3 Ultra HC 3889 06/23/2021 06:00:09 K|NGP|N K|NGP|N HC (Queue) 3999 06/15/2021 09:17:29 K|NGP|N Hybrid (Queue) 3998 03/09/2021 20:14:50K|NGP|N HC Kit 1999 07/16/2021 11:24:46
May your remaining wait be shorter than you anticipate; it is already longer than you deserve. Best of luck! twene
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 15:03:27
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I like how every person who already got a card from the queue, claims to have done it for some noble, self-sacrificing, reason. Very tempted to start randomly flagging opposing opinions as spam as appears to have been done to this post, but resisting the urge...
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 15:13:45
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If I may just ask one last thing of those of us who -- like me -- are negatively impacted by this change (I bought my brother a card from the queue back in the fall of 2020)...the folks at EVGA are trying hard to maximize the opportunity for the greatest number of gamers. Not all of us may agree with this decision, but let’s please not demonize the folks who made it; I am 100% confident that this revision to the rules was made in good faith and in the belief that this will benefit the community at large.
I am sorry to hear that. Even though the rules was made in good faith and in the belief that this will benefit the community at large, it still hurts people. No matter who made the decision to roll out this, I cannot believe they is the people who cares about customers.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 15:15:36
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enewt
If I may just ask one last thing of those of us who -- like me -- are negatively impacted by this change (I bought my brother a card from the queue back in the fall of 2020)...the folks at EVGA are trying hard to maximize the opportunity for the greatest number of gamers. Not all of us may agree with this decision, but let’s please not demonize the folks who made it; I am 100% confident that this revision to the rules was made in good faith and in the belief that this will benefit the community at large.
I am sorry to hear that. Even though the rules was made in good faith and in the belief that this will benefit the community at large, it still hurts people.
"it still hurts people"...who already bought a card. It helps people who have not yet been so lucky.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 15:19:21
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We are all gonna have to start carrying around our GPU passports, to prove that we only own one GPU in the 30xx series. Thank God that EVGA has stepped up(pun intended) to moderate this chip shortage for all of us....
Sorry couldn't resist a bit of fun amongst all our salt!!!
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Kevin115
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 15:21:28
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If I may just ask one last thing of those of us who -- like me -- are negatively impacted by this change (I bought my brother a card from the queue back in the fall of 2020)...the folks at EVGA are trying hard to maximize the opportunity for the greatest number of gamers. Not all of us may agree with this decision, but let’s please not demonize the folks who made it; I am 100% confident that this revision to the rules was made in good faith and in the belief that this will benefit the community at large.
I am sorry to hear that. Even though the rules was made in good faith and in the belief that this will benefit the community at large, it still hurts people.
"it still hurts people"...who already bought a card.
It helps people who have not yet been so lucky.
Similar to increase tax rate on middle class.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 15:23:34
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I like how every person who already got a card from the queue, claims to have done it for some noble, self-sacrificing, reason.
Very tempted to start randomly flagging opposing opinions as spam as appears to have been done to this post, but resisting the urge...
Hilarious isn't it? We all know the "real" reason most people are upset is because it directly is going to affect their pocketbook. Or they already flipped their first "notify" card for a profit and are coming to the realization that they screwed themselves. In either case I don't care because it all works out in the end. They scalped someone for a profit with their first card and are now gonna have to pay the piper if they want a card for themselves. So now they get a taste of their own medicine. This is what they get for being a part of the problem in the first place if you ask me. No sympathy, none what so ever.
post edited by CraptacularOne - 2021/10/04 15:29:11
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Kevin115
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 15:26:09
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z1nonly
I like how every person who already got a card from the queue, claims to have done it for some noble, self-sacrificing, reason.
Very tempted to start randomly flagging opposing opinions as spam as appears to have been done to this post, but resisting the urge...
Hilarious isn't it? We all know the "real" reason most people are upset is because it directly is going to affect their pocketbook.
True if you believe money can explain evrything.
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z1nonly
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 15:35:41
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If I may just ask one last thing of those of us who -- like me -- are negatively impacted by this change (I bought my brother a card from the queue back in the fall of 2020)...the folks at EVGA are trying hard to maximize the opportunity for the greatest number of gamers. Not all of us may agree with this decision, but let’s please not demonize the folks who made it; I am 100% confident that this revision to the rules was made in good faith and in the belief that this will benefit the community at large.
I am sorry to hear that. Even though the rules was made in good faith and in the belief that this will benefit the community at large, it still hurts people.
"it still hurts people"...who already bought a card.
It helps people who have not yet been so lucky.
Similar to increase tax rate on middle class.
EVGA is rationing their own products, that they produced.
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 15:44:28
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z1nonly
I like how every person who already got a card from the queue, claims to have done it for some noble, self-sacrificing, reason.
Very tempted to start randomly flagging opposing opinions as spam as appears to have been done to this post, but resisting the urge...
I would imagine that the people on this thread bothering to reply skew towards being actual people, and that big time scalpers don't really have any emotional investment in how many company runs their stuff. Any big time scalper taking the time to complain isn't taking time to work on their amazon bot or whatever. Claiming the people such as myself trying to get more than one card for more than one actual human being (and speaking for myself I'm not even motivated to sell my broken out of warranty 1080) are the main type of people purchasing is wrong. Claiming we don't exist is also wrong. Just because a group is a minority doesn't mean it's valid to ignore issues they have. With some work on EVGAs part they could address some of these edge cases. They could also disallow shipping to services known to be used by people hiding their address, doing better human verification of orders/identities. Also, I'm a bit salty that I did the RIGHT THING by not having multiple accounts for the same household (with multiple adults that game), and doing the right thing is being punished.
post edited by DarkRayne - 2021/10/04 15:47:36
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 15:55:54
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All who "got potato while waiting for Kingpin" why not step up, or have you scalped it out already?
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Nozler
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 15:58:44
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So after this new queue update, I went and dropped all my queues but the one I want which I'm two in queue now. If everyone does the same It'll help clear out unneeded queues in the numerous lists. Js syin "See yaz fraggin out thar" Gattlin
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Re: EVGA Queue Summary
2021/10/04 16:02:34
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[Hilarious isn't it? We all know the "real" reason most people are upset is because it directly is going to affect their pocketbook. Or they already flipped their first "notify" card for a profit and are coming to the realization that they screwed themselves. In either case I don't care because it all works out in the end. They scalped someone for a profit with their first card and are now gonna have to pay the piper if they want a card for themselves. So now they get a taste of their own medicine. This is what they get for being a part of the problem in the first place if you ask me. No sympathy, none what so ever.
Personally, I find your entire sentiment offensive not hilarious, as most people posting on here, actually help the gaming/enthusiast community in one way, shape or form. Not everyone mind you, but you are assuming that most people here are scalpers and or people with bad intentions? Just because some of us help our own communities by being the tech guy of our family/network of friends or coworkers, you think they should be punished?!?! No one has a good answer, certainly not this. As they already had stated rules in place, setup an entire system(elite status) to try and combat the scalping. But to change the rules without ANY kind of warning mid game is really just in bad taste. Regardless of how many more people get cards through the que that hadn't already.
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