leelawrencecs
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Due to the power efficiency of Ryzen CPUs, I was wondering if it is even worth the time and effort to buy an EVGA AIO rather than a high end CPU Cooler from Noctua or Scythe.
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/08 12:03:07
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Have you thought about water cooling?
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leelawrencecs
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/08 12:09:29
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Hahobg
Have you thought about water cooling?
yes i have thought about water cooling and i ended up rejecting it. wouldn't water cooling only be feasible on a threadripper?
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/08 15:10:01
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i prefer air cooling because im scared of the water pump failing or something and a good air cooler is just as good.
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/08 16:13:22
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I am on my second AIO. The EVGA is in my secondary system. System specs below...I have a Corsair H115i RGB Pro on my Ryzen 5950X. Under the heaviest load...I don't recall seeing temps any higher than 75C. During gaming...even when game requires multi core...temps in the 50's. I don't have issues with AIO and leaking. Most brands have taken good care to assure no leaking. I went with Corsair on the Ryzen, because at the time...EVGA had not adjusted their software to properly work with Ryzen. The latest version should have taken care of that. Also...my Corsair AIO comes with mag lev fans...so they are pretty quiet at any speed. EVGA AIO's are some of the best performing of all. Can't lose with EVGA, Corsair, Cooler Master and some of the others. EVGA has 5 year warranty and back it up with great service
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/08 23:14:22
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Hahobg
Have you thought about water cooling?
why would you even if for the 1/3 of a price you can buy Arctic Liquid Freezer II that preaty much match the cooling performance of custom liquid cooler? the most important when installing CPU cooler on Ryzen is to spread the thermal paste equally on the die (don't use the dot method!!!)
post edited by half_empty_soul - 2021/06/08 23:17:21
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/09 09:12:04
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the big difference between air and water is like 10 degrees Celsius. now ask yourself this question do i want a big honking piece of metal and fans in my system blocking my ram other components. some cooler get in the way of ram and GPUs AIO cooler is 100% cleaner look. most Asetek coolers do not fail. thats Phanteks. corsair and EVGA I have used them all I am going with Phanteks because there is no software my cooler is controlled through motherboard.
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/09 20:11:09
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leelawrencecs
Due to the power efficiency of Ryzen CPUs, I was wondering if it is even worth the time and effort to buy an EVGA AIO rather than a high end CPU Cooler from Noctua or Scythe.
I think you are mistaken, even though they may be power efficient, these boost like crazy. just moving the mouse can spike desktop temps to 50s on my 120mm AIO. only until recently I switched over to 280mm, it lowered my temp down by 8 - 9 degrees. Also I have been using my old 120mm AIO with no issues with pump or leak (its a Zalman, the AIO lasted longer than the company)
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/10 09:22:04
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If you have a case with decent airflow like a P400A or Lancool 215, then a 240mm AIO or Fuma 2 will keep your cpu at good temps. Unless you plan on doing some extreme overclocking, I doubt you'll need more than those 2 coolers.
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/16 23:28:58
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Nothing "needs watercooling". So long as you're making allowances for airflow through the case and cooling mechanism, it doesn't matter if you're using a standard HSF setup or an AIO or a custom loop. That being said, it's ALL air cooling. Look at most decent air coolers. Notice the heatpipes? There's liquid in there. All adding a thermally conductive fluid to the mix does is relocates where the heat is dissipating. This being said, appropriate size for a heat dissipation mechanism DOES play a part. If you can saturate the device with more heat than it can dissipate... I've seen it said that, for sufficient cooling on an AIO/Custom loop, you want the equivalent of 2x120mm per device being cooled. For me, I've kinda gone overboard... Then again, eventually I'm going to hook up a GPU block. Just not on the 2060 that's in there now. 
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/17 00:04:42
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i've had 1700 for years and been using stock cooler for that amount of time, i really don't have a problem with it tho
but then again you are using top tier of Ryzen chips for loads of work tasks, might be a good to invest into a better cooler
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/17 21:17:11
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i've had 1700 for years and been using stock cooler for that amount of time, i really don't have a problem with it tho
but then again you are using top tier of Ryzen chips for loads of work tasks, might be a good to invest into a better cooler
Define "better". "Better" is a qualitative, rather that quantitative, benchmark. And it's a highly situational one.
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/23 10:31:42
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The Ryzen 3 automatic overclocking algorithm aggressively increases voltage and clock speed until the CPU maintains 90-95degC under load, and cross-checks stability. As such, if you can pull more heat from the chip at the same temperature difference to ambient - i.e. a lower thermal resistance, from a more effective cooling system - you will get improved performance until you hit stability thresholds.
So, you don’t “need” an AIO, water loop, giant heat sink, etc. If you’re trying to squeeze out a bit more performance for video encoding or whatnot, it is purely beneficial. If you’re trying to lower temperatures, that’s not what these chips are designed for but you do you.
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/23 11:09:29
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It depends on what temperatures you want to achieve. The 5800x runs hot, for example.
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/23 11:43:50
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At maximum capable load with a better cooler, it will be the same temperature and higher performance. At idle, it'll be somewhat lower temperature with a better cooler.
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/23 12:19:19
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I would like to see if somebody has done any benchmarking of Ryzen 5900x with air vs water cooling (real world benchmarks). I am not interested in any overclocking, just want to check if I can pair up 5900x with an air cooler safely (without throttling.
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/06/23 13:46:18
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anil_robo
I would like to see if somebody has done any benchmarking of Ryzen 5900x with air vs water cooling (real world benchmarks). I am not interested in any overclocking, just want to check if I can pair up 5900x with an air cooler safely (without throttling.
Yes, you can pair a 5900X up to an air cooler and it'll be fine. You just need to make sure the air cooler fits in your case and you have decent ventilation.
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/07/06 01:56:17
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Get creative, cut up your case and make it born to burn! I have had this case for 3 builds so my 1660 barely fits it, and i Tore the doors off it and perforated the entire metal sheets with a nailgun, its pretty lightweight and cools easily. for added cooling i have a basic 20$ high speed low sound construction fan.. It outperforms and underprices mostof these fan chains i see ou tthere...
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Re: Does Ryzen even benefit from AIO coolers?
2021/07/07 21:08:15
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I personally like AIO coolers for making the system look clean and have never had a leak with one. They would almost need to be abused to leak really. I also like that I am pulling the heat away and putting it on a radiator at the edge of the system blowing the hot air directly out of the system. With a standard air cooler you have a big and heavy piece of metal on the motherboard that really doesn’t look that great and all the heat it pulls off the CPU is push pushed out into the system to heat other parts up.
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