zildjian75

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zildjian75

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zildjian75
That's ok bcav... You don't have to carry if you don't want too.

This is what is starting bother me.

It is starting to like we are going back to Nazi Party days or the US is nothing more than a poor Drug Cartel happy Gun Happy.
Yes I know it is Their Right and Their Freedom of Speech Their Right to Bear Arms, Yes I Know it is THIER RIGHS.

 
LOL!!  It's just a sign bcav...  And what do expect?  It's on the Canadian Flag.  If I'm not mistaken, you can't own a gun in Canada as the Gov't has deemed the population to irresponsible. It's too bad the folks in Canada put up with that...
 
Not that guns make me happy, but without one, you are pretty much defenseless, and that can lead to many unhappy situations.  That's why we have the 2nd amendment in the first place. So the sign (being that it's on the Canadian flag) makes sense to me.

Never cough that before. Good Point, makes no sense is correct.

  Hey...  I'm sensing some sarcasm...  I know it's a stretch, but guns do make some folks happy. 
 
I'm sure there are gun owners that would think it's ridiculous that gpu's make some folks happy...  or video games...  Again...  To each their own.  I wish more folks would just live by that and stop worrying about what everybody else is doing.

No, no sarcasm. I just think what you said "So the sign (being that it's on the Canadian flag) makes sense to me." is all.

zildjian75

I don't see any attitude in what he said, but I sure see an attitude in what you said.  In fact, you always get an attitude on these gun threads. You talk alot of junk for someone that is scared of guns and must rely on others. 
 
If you don't like guns, good for you.  You are in the wrong country.

You know nothing about me, again do not assume. If I was relying on YOU to keep me safe, I would be scared. Guns do not scare me. People do not scare me, hence no need to carry.

Do you even know the reason for the 2nd Amendment? Please enlighten us.

Last I checked freedom is the right to do and say as you please, as long as you do not infringe on the rights of another person. Too bad carrying guns can do the opposite.

Maybe you are in the wrong country. I am sure there are many places in the world that will welcome your positive outlook on this subject and would allow your bully pulpit to be more effective.

Owning and carrying are two different things. I own but will never carry. Just like riding a motorcycle without a helmet, it's your choice, but I can say it is not a smart thing to do, as that is the freedom here in this country.

Never said anyone else was paranoid, that is YOUR assumption. Take the risk. I just hope it never comes to harming you in any way, as I wish no one harm.

By the way, what gun thread have I said negative things on? Maybe facts get in your way too. Maybe you just do not like differing opinions.

zildjian75
LOL!!  It's just a sign bcav...  And what do expect?  It's on the Canadian Flag.  If I'm not mistaken, you can't own a gun in Canada as the Gov't has deemed the population to irresponsible. It's too bad the folks in Canada put up with that...
 
Not that guns make me happy, but without one, you are pretty much defenseless, and that can lead to many unhappy situations.  That's why we have the 2nd amendment in the first place. So the sign (being that it's on the Canadian flag) makes sense to me.

You are mistaken. I own 5 guns. 2 handguns, 2 rifles, and 1 shotgun. In Canada it is a 2 week course and 2 tests, and a criminal background check to get your non-restricted and restricted gun license. There are many gun owners in Canada and lots of guns.

Baltothewolf

Grey_Beard

zildjian75

I don't see any attitude in what he said, but I sure see an attitude in what you said.  In fact, you always get an attitude on these gun threads. You talk alot of junk for someone that is scared of guns and must rely on others. 
 
If you don't like guns, good for you.  You are in the wrong country.

You know nothing about me, again do not assume. If I was relying on YOU to keep me safe, I would be scared. Guns do not scare me. People do not scare me, hence no need to carry.

Do you even know the reason for the 2nd Amendment? Please enlighten us.

Last I checked freedom is the right to do and say as you please, as long as you do not infringe on the rights of another person. Too bad carrying guns can do the opposite.

Maybe you are in the wrong country. I am sure there are many places in the world that will welcome your positive outlook on this subject and would allow your bully pulpit to be more effective.

Owning and carrying are two different things. I own but will never carry. Just like riding a motorcycle without a helmet, it's your choice, but I can say it is not a smart thing to do, as that is the freedom here in this country.

Never said anyone else was paranoid, that is YOUR assumption. Take the risk. I just hope it never comes to harming you in any way, as I wish no one harm.

By the way, what gun thread have I said negative things on? Maybe facts get in your way too. Maybe you just do not like differing opinions.

I will admit I have seen you stir trouble as well in other gun threads.

Exactly!!  He's a rabble rouser... 

I love how this thread got off topic so fast. 

I do not carry, as I really have guns but am going to begin to learn to shoot to protect myself...people are getting crazier and crazier and at this point, I only have myself to depend on in the end.
 
Also, I feel no need to have them in the house, as my roommate has about 15 guns of all varieties in his room and hidden in the house. Plus, I live in Texas...good luck guessing who is and is not packing.

Daily carry Springfield EMP9.  My thoughts are I would rather carry it everyday and not need it, than have it sitting at home the one day it is needed.  It is nothing more than a tool, like the knife I also carry to open boxes and perform many other daily tasks.  I do not carry out of fear for my personal safety, but rather a fear of not being able to intercede and maybe stop a terrible act from happening.
 
 

Grey_Beard

Do you even know the reason for the 2nd Amendment? Please enlighten us.

Last I checked freedom is the right to do and say as you please, as long as you do not infringe on the rights of another person. Too bad carrying guns can do the opposite.

Please explain how someone legally carrying a firearm (especially a concealed pistol) can infringe on your rights?  Is there a problem where you live of people who are carrying pulling, brandishing or otherwise using their weapon to intimidate others?

Re: carrying, whether open or concealed. Would you support a piece of legislation enabling cops to check that your ownership is legal if you decide to open carry it if it's visible, say it would be a simple 5 minute process. (Just for sake of argument.) Lets say supporting said legislation would permit police to apprehend and press charges on illegal weapons, and confiscate and legally auction or destroy them? (Destroy in the case of guns that could be tied to a crime.) Lets say for example when you buy a gun after an extensive background check, the SN is added to a data base tied to your license number so all a cop would have to do is run your license. Not really aiming to be political, just a large number of gun owners in this thread so it made me curious.

Edit: I don't carry on my person but I do keep a 9" Bowie knife in house and a smaller knife in my car. My primary defense is awareness honestly. Car and house are the only places I would expect any issues, so I keep knives accessible there. I'm not against carrying at all, but I am against illegal carry and illegal ownership. If something like this were proposed the worst that would happen to a private person is they would claim it's an invasion of privacy, but guess what? So is every time you get ID'd buying alcohol. I suspect a strong negative response to this idea, but honestly I don't get why. If you're legal you have nothing to be worried about, would cost you 5 minutes and would (I think) vastly increase safety in public which is exactly why a lot of gun owners claim to carry, it would target gangs and other illegal gun owners.

Halo_003
Re: carrying, whether open or concealed. Would you support a piece of legislation enabling cops to check that your ownership is legal if you decide to open carry it if it's visible, say it would be a simple 5 minute process. (Just for sake of argument.) Lets say supporting said legislation would permit police to apprehend and press charges on illegal weapons, and confiscate and legally auction or destroy them? (Destroy in the case of guns that could be tied to a crime.)

I wouldn't support any legislation like that. That would give the police the power to harass people daily all because they do something the officer doesn't like (open carrying). They would stop them all the time to make sure the firearm isn't stolen or illegal for them to carry.
 
How would people feel if police could stop you every single day just to make sure the phone you carry isn't stolen. With all the phone thief going on, they want to make sure the phone you carry isn't stolen.
 
 
 

Well you all cut with the whole opinion about carrying legislation crap!! Stop getting off topic from the OP. This thread is for those who carry and why they choose to carry. Why cant some of you respect the OP's request on the subject matter?
 
By the way OP thanks for the input on the G26. I went to Academy today and was checking out both the Gen 4 and Gen 3. I like the Gen 4 more because it has the replaceable back straps and 2 more extra mags they give you. I also like the fact the Gen 4 can use the Gen 3's mags but I dont like how the Gen 3 cant use the Gen 4's mags. But then again I would have to pay $50 more for the Gen 4 than the Gen 3.

JustinHEMI
People that don't carry or think that people shouldn't carry are silly

If it wasn't for my gun, I'd be dead.

I carry an HK P30.

Justin

If you don't mind, could you explain what you mean?

My whole family carries. Im the youngest. My father carries a Sig 1911, My mother the H&K p2000, My brother loves wheel guns. So a 38 snub nose revolver. I want my family to be able to protect themselves. I would not be here today without my 26. The world can be a scary place, and never believe that it will never happen to you because make no mistake, IT CAN! Adapt and overcome!

Tweaked

JustinHEMI
People that don't carry or think that people shouldn't carry are silly

If it wasn't for my gun, I'd be dead.

I carry an HK P30.

Justin

If you don't mind, could you explain what you mean?

Long story short, a road rager with a gun decided that I was going too slow for him. Fortunately, I'm well trained and had the draw on him. I'm just glad that he didn't force me to make the ultimate choice.

After calling the police, I was still on the hook for defending my actions in court because he lied and accused me of being the aggressor. When faced with my dash cam evidence and when facing the judge, he told the truth. However, he committed a crime by lying to indict me of a crime, so he was charged with that but they were ultimately dropped because the DA had "more important cases."

The whole thing just showed me that the system is stacked against gun owners, even when in the right. The cops said "the courts will have to sort this out." They did zero investigation and wouldn't even look at my dash cam.

The bottom line is that there are crazy people out there and I won't leave the house unarmed. Good for those that do, I don't care.

However, my experience showed that training is a must, and you better be able to afford to defend yourself if you ever have to use it.

That said, I oppose mandatory training. I just think that any responsible gun carrier would get training, and everyone that I know, does.

Justin

btw, firearms don't make me nervous or afraid. Been around them too long.
It's a tool, just like a hammer ..
 
Really off topic:
If you really get down to brass tacks, I have the Constitutional right to own a firearm, and to further that,
if you think you have the right to healthcare that I have to pay for, then I argue that since it's written that
I have the right to keep and bear arms (but it's not for healthcare), you should be paying for my guns and ammo.
 
 

transdogmifier
btw, firearms don't make me nervous or afraid. Been around them too long.
It's a tool, just like a hammer ..
 
Really off topic:
If you really get down to brass tacks, I have the Constitutional right to own a firearm, and to further that,
if you think you have the right to healthcare that I have to pay for, then I argue that since it's written that
I have the right to keep and bear arms (but it's not for healthcare), you should be paying for my guns and ammo.
 
 

That's a great point! Never thought of that, and you can sure bet I will be using that in the future.