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Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch)

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2019/11/07 19:04:28 (permalink)
HI all,
Just wanted to ask what is the diffrence between the normal and OC bios on the 11G-P4-2484-KR (EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID GAMING).
Are the Bios versions the same? 90.02.17.00.D2 on the Normal Bios, Techpowerup lists Bios version 90.02.17.00.D1 (with no info which Bios it is, normal or OC?).
 
I'm having weird Problems with the OC Bios, somtimes my Mainboard doesnt Post and gives me ERROR LOAD VGA BIOS on the display, code is either 64 or b4 (Asus Prime x299 deluxe ii (Bios 0802)).
Once I press the restart button on my PC case, it restarts and works normal.
I tried DDU'ing the driver in windows and reinstalling it fresh, but it seems the Bios on the card it self has some hicc-ups on cold boot's.
So i thought, if possible, I could flash the OC bios on the card with the normal Bios if the bios switch only changes the Fan curve.
if not could someone give me a working OC bios to try to reflash it?
 
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post edited by Tasty_Sashimi - 2019/11/07 19:06:48
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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/07 19:20:16 (permalink)
    Did you kill all power to the pc by pulling the plug from the wall and hold the power on button on the case for 15 seconds to fully drain the power from the pc and then flip the bios switch and re plug in the pc and power up?

    That's the normal procedure when you flip the bios switch on the card.

    So try to fully drain the system power and then power back up.

    One might need to reinstall px1 as well as it might get confused with the different card bios.

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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/07 19:35:23 (permalink)
    Yes, I already tried everything, even flashing the OC bios with the Bios from Techpowerup.
    The card works but what annoys/bothers me is the diffrence in Bios versions:
    -Normal: 90.02.17.00.D2
    -OC (From Techpowerup): 90.02.17.00.D1
    Same boot error with the Techpowerup Bios on cold boot's, normal bios works normal
    Thats why the question "Whats the diffrence between OC and Normal Bios"
    if its safe to Flash the OC bios with the 90.02.17.00.D2 version?
    and if not could someone give me a working OC bios to try to reflash it?
    if theres an EVGA tech that could give me one
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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/07 19:43:05 (permalink)
    Here are some Pics

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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/07 20:47:20 (permalink)
    I was told the only difference was the fan profile on those is more aggressive on the OC BIOS.  Not sure if that's still true.

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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/07 21:28:56 (permalink)
    Your should just call evga and ask them to email you the correct 2 bios for your card. They will be in a .exe file that will automatically flash the card for you.

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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 00:55:19 (permalink)
    Isn't it these files? :
    https://www.evga.com/support/faq/FAQdetails.aspx?faqid=59742
     
    And yes, the difference between normal and OC bios is only in fan curve: also in OC mode fan would not stop on low temperatures. Nothing more.

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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 03:26:51 (permalink)
    it happend again, this time I woke up the system from hibernation via mouse click.
    Here are some pics: photos.app.goo.gl/CFoLDNpzqYJWvE8m6
    the white LED is from the VGA ERROR LED
    post edited by Tasty_Sashimi - 2019/11/08 03:31:45
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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 03:38:02 (permalink)
    @DeadlyMercury
    These Patches seem to be only for LED and Fan issues and it patches something called the MCU (Micro Controller Unit).
    I'm having boot issues with the OC BIOS, which means I need something to patch the BIOS.
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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 03:40:52 (permalink)
    I believe that gpu bios is included in this MCU. Because if led could be controlled by something else - fans are controlled by bios.

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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 03:55:52 (permalink)
    well, I just tried it out and it didnt change (i think) the BIOS it self.
    So it went like this:
    - It flashed something on the card
    - I rebooted the system (manually)
    - PX1 started to update the firmware
    - I rebooted again (manually)
    - Checked the BIOS version with GPU-Z
    and its still 90.02.17.00.D1 which I got from Techpowerup and flashed it with NVFlash

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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 03:59:47 (permalink)
    Did you turn Windows 10 Fast Startup OFF ? -  when upgrading drivers, firmware or hardware

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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 04:04:30 (permalink)
    Yes, Fast Start up is off
    and I already tried everthing, I'm having this issue for a while now.
    I even RMA'ed the Mainboard 2 times and got 2 complettly new ones.
    It can only be the card itself that has some issues and only if I'm using the OC BIOS.
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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 04:06:46 (permalink)
    and like I said the weird part is it only happens sometimes and when it happens I can just press the Restart/Reset button.
    It'll reboot again and just works for what ever reason
     
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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 04:10:55 (permalink)
    Same version means that there is newest bios for your card on techpowerup.
    But now it is flashed properly with evga utilities. Does this problem occurs since you did flash via evga tools?

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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 04:14:59 (permalink)
    I have to try and see, since the problem is soo random idk how to recreate it
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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 04:40:52 (permalink)
    And the easiest solution is not to use OC bios since it not give you anything :)
     

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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 04:57:54 (permalink)
    well idk about other people, but when I buy something I want it to work no matter the setting
    especially if I paid 1700 swiss franks for it
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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 06:45:25 (permalink)
    Just get the oc bios from evga and flash it to the standard position? That dont work?

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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 07:45:09 (permalink)
    I wrote an Email to support@evga.com and gave them a link to this post.
    I'll wait and see what they give me, idk what the patch from @DeadlyMercury did.
    Since there was no .rom file which is used for flashing (with NVFlash atleast and the BIOS files on techpowerup are also .rom files) there was only a .hex file and ofc the executables.
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    Re: Diffrences between normal and OC bios (Bios switch) 2019/11/08 08:06:39 (permalink)
    It's always best to get the files from EVGA themselves.  I'm sure you'll hear from them soon.

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