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My Custom Loop had an overhaul, including;
- 12900k w EK Velocity 2
- Dominator DDR5 5600 C36 (Samsung) Overclocked 6000 C36
- Z690 Apex
- 3080Ti FTW3 w EK Vector (recycled)
- PSU Corsair AX 1600i (great deal on it a few years ago while playing with 1080Ti SLi and Tri SLi.
- Samsung 980 Pro 500G NVMe (boot) + 980 Pro 1TB NVMe (Games) + 256G 860 Pro SSD (Utilities) + 4TB WD Red (Media)
 
Loop Parts n order:
XSPC Photon (glass) Rez / D5 Vario pump combo - CPU EK Velocity 2 - XSPC RX 480 Rad - Evga 3080Ti FTW3 w Vector - XSPC EX 360 Rad - XSPC 240 Rad - back to pump.
 
- All Bits Power Fittings
- Flex Tube Primochill LRT
- Coolant (1.2 Liters) EK Cryofuel Concentrate / Distilled water
Positive Pressure:
- All Rads set as intakes w Noctua NF F12 fans (*9). (NO BLING)
- 3 Additional 120mm Silverstrone Penetrator Fans as intakes at the front of the case.
- 1 Rear Noctua 140mm top back exhaust.
 
All fans run off of an old 200w 4 Channel manual fan controller (all fans are grouped into the 4 channels), generally I "set n forget". the Noctua fans arent pretty, no bling, but they provide outstanding performance with radiators as they are high static pressure. Always best to pair up high static pressure fans with low FPI Rads (Fins Per Inch), provides for great efficient cooling.
 
My coolant temp (although I dont actually use a Coolant Temp probe, yep been forgetting to install that since I purchased it in 2015) sits right around ambient, perhaps 1c-2c max above ambient.
GPU Idles at ambient, when 100% loaded Max 46c-47c (gaming benching), as soon as I shut down a Program everything is idling (CPU n GPU) at Ambient within a few minutes
 
Pump is a manual controllable speed D5 Vario, which I really like for purging the air, as I can manually change speed from high to low and back to high (cycling speed I find really helps with purging air).
Once I'm set up pump speed and set n forget at 3100 - 3200 RPM.
 
Other:
 
Case: Corsair 900D (getting pretty old as no USB Type C front panel header and the APEX Board has no AC97 Audio header ...for headphones plugged in to the case).
Monitor: Dell Alienware Ultra Wide 3440*1440p 120Hz
OS: Windows 11 21H1 (No issues at all since install)
 
Most parts came pretty quick from time of ordering, but yep, I was one of those folks waiting about 5 wks to get some DDR5. Got lucky with both Newegg.ca and Corsair, wound up with 2 kits, GSkill 32G 6000 C36 and Dominator 5600 C36.
Gave the Dominators a run initially and within minutes no issues with 6000 c36 with fairly low VDD/Q and temps, so sent the GSkills back (think I have room to tighten up to 34-34-76), lots to play with.
 
12900K Overclocking. I have been lazy and only using IXTU so far (except all Memory OC'ing in BIOS).
So far All Core 5.2P / 4.1E seems to be a pretty sweet spot for voltages n temps. I have tried All core 5.3P / 4.1E with a bump in voltage and a rise in temps by about 5c, so lots of room to play some more with 5.3 Ghz.
 
5.2P / 4.1E is what I have been playing with extensively over the past week.
Evga 3080Ti FTW3 OC +180 / +1175 Benching / Testing & +120 / +700 Gaming n everything else. (Idles ambient and heavy loads to 46c-47c).
 
Main goal with this system is performance....OC'ability and thermals......could care less about all the RGB bling..personally not a fan of Unicorns sh%$^&*ing candy floss under a rainbow ;)
 
Always set up on my bench and install hw / OS / Programs, fully test, then disassemble, install Blocks and incorporate into my loop.
btw the AX1200i is strictly a spare psu I use for bench testing, as is the 240 aio......
 
Thanks for checking it out....any questions dont hesitate to ask.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
post edited by rjbarker - 2022/01/22 20:31:54

I9 12900K EK Velocity2 / ROG Z690 Apex/ 32G Dominator DDR5 6000/ Evga RTX 3080Ti FTW3  EK Vector / 980 Pro 512G / 980 Pro 1TB/ Samsung 860 Pro 500G/ WD 4TB Red / AX 1600i /  Corsair 900D & XSPC 480 * 360 * 240 Rads   XSPC Photon 170 Rez-Vario Pump Combo - Alienware 3440*1440p 120Hz/ W11
 
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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/01/21 16:38:11 (permalink)
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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/01/21 16:58:49 (permalink)
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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/01/21 17:04:11 (permalink)
    Best this new System has done running TS 21,913
    https://www.3dmark.com/spy/25697121
     
    Really been pushing to crack 15K PR but just cant seem to get there.
     
    Overall pretty happy with the chip and Z690 overall.... W11 not the nightmare I was expecting either.
     
     

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/01/21 21:48:27 (permalink)
     
    Looks like you put a lot of work into it. Good job.    

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/01/22 11:02:33 (permalink)
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    Looks like you put a lot of work into it. Good job.    





    Wasnt too bad as I had just completed a full service of the loop back in Aug when I swapped out GPU's.....fortunately able to swap out mobo without too much hassle....thanks.

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/01/22 11:41:47 (permalink)
    Great looking build. I like the blue. How do you like the EK Velocity block? I have one yet to install. When mine came the box sounded like the block was in pieces. It wasn't. +1! 
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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/01/22 17:12:21 (permalink)
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    Great looking build. I like the blue. How do you like the EK Velocity block? I have one yet to install. When mine came the box sounded like the block was in pieces. It wasn't. +1! 




    Velocity 2 is very big n heavy vs original Velocity, but designed for LGA 1700....installs from backplate side, quite easy, dont over-tighten.
    Temps seems pretty good as you can see in images above..OC 12900K All Core P Cores 5.2 / E Cores 4.1 Memory OC 6000 c36 temps of CPU running R23 71c - 80c (decent)...gaming cpu maxes out around 57c...only 2 mm clearance between edge of block and RAM stick....as said its a monster Block....are you talking Velocity or Velocity 2 ?
    post edited by rjbarker - 2022/01/22 17:15:18

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/01/22 23:29:39 (permalink)
    Pushed things a little ..... 12900K All Core 5.3P / 4.2E..
    3080Ti +195 / +1200...
     

     

     

     


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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/01/23 23:48:46 (permalink)
    Lots of good work went into this build!

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/01/24 05:58:35 (permalink)
    Great Build . you should update your Mods Rigs 
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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/01/24 10:24:54 (permalink)
    Finally able to crack that illuscive PR 15K score...ambient in my Office was cool enough this AM @ +17c...
     
    3080Ti 12900k ....rebar disabled (no nv inspector tweaking or anything but stock vbios)....ambient temps cool this AM +17c in my Office...
     
    +210 / +1275
    PR 15,018
     
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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/01/24 12:25:28 (permalink)
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    Velocity 2 is very big n heavy vs original Velocity, but designed for LGA 1700....installs from backplate side, quite easy, dont over-tighten.
    Temps seems pretty good as you can see in images above..OC 12900K All Core P Cores 5.2 / E Cores 4.1 Memory OC 6000 c36 temps of CPU running R23 71c - 80c (decent)...gaming cpu maxes out around 57c...only 2 mm clearance between edge of block and RAM stick....as said its a monster Block....are you talking Velocity or Velocity 2 ?




    Evidently I don't know my EK blocks that well. Mine is the first version. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H9KXVRV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     
    {sorry to ignorant to shrink links} 
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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/01/24 12:41:44 (permalink)
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    Velocity 2 is very big n heavy vs original Velocity, but designed for LGA 1700....installs from backplate side, quite easy, dont over-tighten.
    Temps seems pretty good as you can see in images above..OC 12900K All Core P Cores 5.2 / E Cores 4.1 Memory OC 6000 c36 temps of CPU running R23 71c - 80c (decent)...gaming cpu maxes out around 57c...only 2 mm clearance between edge of block and RAM stick....as said its a monster Block....are you talking Velocity or Velocity 2 ?




    Evidently I don't know my EK blocks that well. Mine is the first version. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H9KXVRV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     
    {sorry to ignorant to shrink links} 




    Yeah no problem....man I have a couple of the original Velocity Blocks in my closet....would have sent you one for shipping cost alone as they're useless to me now....one is acetol w RGB the other is all nickel w RGB...
    Did you get the LGA 1700 bracket for it from EK? I have one of those as well ...
     
    The Velocity 2 if you look in the pics is soo much larger n heavier.....think I even have 3 EK Supremacy Blocks....acetol...all nickel w RGB....
    Thats the only thing w water loops...end up with a closet full of CPU n GPU blocks !!!!
     
    I dont know how to shrink my pics or make clickable thumbnails as well....

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/10 18:25:05 (permalink)
    Going to add some final touches ....
    replacing the Dominator DDR5 5600 C36 Samsungs for Dom 6200 C36 Hynix IC's and have pre-ordered Vector 2 Water Block to replace Vector :)

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/11 11:42:03 (permalink)
    Nice build. Surprised you didn't go hard tubing, its just so much more clean. If I were to choose soft, 100% black tubing. Looks super clean. Great scores on your benches too. Your 12900K was definitely a better bin than mine.

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/12 10:37:40 (permalink)
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    Nice build. Surprised you didn't go hard tubing, its just so much more clean. If I were to choose soft, 100% black tubing. Looks super clean. Great scores on your benches too. Your 12900K was definitely a better bin than mine.



    Thanks Glor1
     
    Yeah simply cant be bothered with Hard Tube....that level of aesthetics Im not looking for at all..flex is too easy.....I'm more about performance...although the Hard Tubing indeed is "super clean"!!
     
    I can bench no problem with this 12900k P 5.3 E 4.1 reasonable voltages.....5.4 all core takes big leaps though!
     
    Funny I was just looking at ordering some more flex tube and will likely go matte black this time around ;)

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/12 20:51:03 (permalink)
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    Nice build. Surprised you didn't go hard tubing, its just so much more clean. If I were to choose soft, 100% black tubing. Looks super clean. Great scores on your benches too. Your 12900K was definitely a better bin than mine.



    Thanks Glor1
     
    Yeah simply cant be bothered with Hard Tube....that level of aesthetics Im not looking for at all..flex is too easy.....I'm more about performance...although the Hard Tubing indeed is "super clean"!!
     
    I can bench no problem with this 12900k P 5.3 E 4.1 reasonable voltages.....5.4 all core takes big leaps though!
     
    Funny I was just looking at ordering some more flex tube and will likely go matte black this time around ;)


    Heck yeah dude. Matte black gonna be super fine. I notice you are using distilled water with EK fluid but a lot of research I have done showed EK fluids as real bad. So many stories over on watercooling reddit. I also saw people with EK blocks getting corroded/worn by distilled water with any additive. This made me decide to go with XL8 clear as my build is very block open friendly to world. Real jealous of your cpu's bin quality though. I have 1 p core that just runs hot. They all hit 78-82 under 30 mins of being hammered by r23 at 5.1/4.1 at 1.3V. Then theres pcore 7 hitting 86c peak but all in all the average temp of this heavy stress test is 82-84c.
    post edited by GloR1ouS_ - 2022/02/12 20:55:07

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/13 17:04:04 (permalink)
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    Nice build. Surprised you didn't go hard tubing, its just so much more clean. If I were to choose soft, 100% black tubing. Looks super clean. Great scores on your benches too. Your 12900K was definitely a better bin than mine.



    Thanks Glor1
     
    Yeah simply cant be bothered with Hard Tube....that level of aesthetics Im not looking for at all..flex is too easy.....I'm more about performance...although the Hard Tubing indeed is "super clean"!!
     
    I can bench no problem with this 12900k P 5.3 E 4.1 reasonable voltages.....5.4 all core takes big leaps though!
     
    Funny I was just looking at ordering some more flex tube and will likely go matte black this time around ;)


    Heck yeah dude. Matte black gonna be super fine. I notice you are using distilled water with EK fluid but a lot of research I have done showed EK fluids as real bad. So many stories over on watercooling reddit. I also saw people with EK blocks getting corroded/worn by distilled water with any additive. This made me decide to go with XL8 clear as my build is very block open friendly to world. Real jealous of your cpu's bin quality though. I have 1 p core that just runs hot. They all hit 78-82 under 30 mins of being hammered by r23 at 5.1/4.1 at 1.3V. Then theres pcore 7 hitting 86c peak but all in all the average temp of this heavy stress test is 82-84c.



    Been running distilled w EK clear Cryo for 4 yrs now ,....no issues...even neglected to dump my loop after well over 2 yrs...never have I had any issues with any type of corrosion or build up of gunk in my Blocks / Fins....
    Been running Custom loop going on 9 yrs now so don't really pay much attention to "claims of..." or Reddit for that matter :) As I know what my experiences have been over the years and build on that....EK Cryo Concentrate clear is far too easy and very reasonably priced at around $12 for a liter of ready to use product ....my loop takes 1.5L coolant...odd number so always have 3 bottles of concentrate in hand....I have also ran straight distilled in my system for up 8 months as ran out of Cryo and got lazy ;) ...
     
    I "try" to get around to flushing my system every 12 months (max)....but have gone 24 months (the longest) and usualy 18 months is more normal as I leave it until A) I know Im swapping out GPU or Board B) I notice GPU temps start to rise indicating that my Cold Plate fins should be cleaned.
     
    ....one thing I have found and built on over all these years with my custom loop....WC'ing is far more forgiving that what many newer wet heads claim :) ....a LOT of myths out there.
     
    There's so much "gimmicky" crap to spend $$$ on....coolant shouldn't be one of em....one thing I have always avoided in my loop is coolants with dyes ....also several years ago there were issues with galvanic corrosion w EK Blocks and build up of gunk within Cold Plate fins from materials within some brands of flex tube....but all those issues were resolved....
     
    Had someone tell me I "absolutely had" to have a coolant temp sensor in my loop.....I had chuckled as I do have one, but its been in my box of Bits Power fittings since 2013, always forget to install it.....point is, once you have a decent loop, you will get right intimate with it and can spot anomalies simply by monitoring your CPU / GPU idle n load temps.
     
    I also have 1 or 2 P Cores that run warmer ....perfectly normal behavior on every CPU I have owned ;)
     
    Take stuff you read on reddit with big ole grain of salt ;) ....build on your own experiences...its always been a fun hobby!
     
     
    post edited by rjbarker - 2022/02/13 18:37:48

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/13 19:02:46 (permalink)
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    Nice build. Surprised you didn't go hard tubing, its just so much more clean. If I were to choose soft, 100% black tubing. Looks super clean. Great scores on your benches too. Your 12900K was definitely a better bin than mine.



    Thanks Glor1

    Yeah simply cant be bothered with Hard Tube....that level of aesthetics Im not looking for at all..flex is too easy.....I'm more about performance...although the Hard Tubing indeed is "super clean"!!

    I can bench no problem with this 12900k P 5.3 E 4.1 reasonable voltages.....5.4 all core takes big leaps though!

    Funny I was just looking at ordering some more flex tube and will likely go matte black this time around ;)


    Heck yeah dude. Matte black gonna be super fine. I notice you are using distilled water with EK fluid but a lot of research I have done showed EK fluids as real bad. So many stories over on watercooling reddit. I also saw people with EK blocks getting corroded/worn by distilled water with any additive. This made me decide to go with XL8 clear as my build is very block open friendly to world. Real jealous of your cpu's bin quality though. I have 1 p core that just runs hot. They all hit 78-82 under 30 mins of being hammered by r23 at 5.1/4.1 at 1.3V. Then theres pcore 7 hitting 86c peak but all in all the average temp of this heavy stress test is 82-84c.



    Been running distilled w EK clear Cryo for 4 yrs now ,....no issues...even neglected to dump my loop after well over 2 yrs...never have I had any issues with any type of corrosion or build up of gunk in my Blocks / Fins....
    Been running Custom loop going on 9 yrs now so don't really pay much attention to "claims of..." or Reddit for that matter :) As I know what my experiences have been over the years and build on that....EK Cryo Concentrate clear is far too easy and very reasonably priced at around $12 for a liter of ready to use product ....my loop takes 1.5L coolant...odd number so always have 3 bottles of concentrate in hand....I have also ran straight distilled in my system for up 8 months as ran out of Cryo and got lazy ;) ...
     
    I "try" to get around to flushing my system every 12 months (max)....but have gone 24 months (the longest) and usualy 18 months is more normal as I leave it until A) I know Im swapping out GPU or Board B) I notice GPU temps start to rise indicating that my Cold Plate fins should be cleaned.
     
    ....one thing I have found and built on over all these years with my custom loop....WC'ing is far more forgiving that what many newer wet heads claim :) ....a LOT of myths out there.
     
    There's so much "gimmicky" crap to spend $$$ on....coolant shouldn't be one of em....one thing I have always avoided in my loop is coolants with dyes ....also several years ago there were issues with galvanic corrosion w EK Blocks and build up of gunk within Cold Plate fins from materials within some brands of flex tube....but all those issues were resolved....
     
    Had someone tell me I "absolutely had" to have a coolant temp sensor in my loop.....I had chuckled as I do have one, but its been in my box of Bits Power fittings since 2013, always forget to install it.....point is, once you have a decent loop, you will get right intimate with it and can spot anomalies simply by monitoring your CPU / GPU idle n load temps.
     
    I also have 1 or 2 P Cores that run warmer ....perfectly normal behavior on every CPU I have owned ;)
     
    Take stuff you read on reddit with big ole grain of salt ;) ....build on your own experiences...its always been a fun hobby!
     
     




    You know how many pictures I have seen on the newer EK blocks being corroded or yellowed with distilled water + anti bacterial? the water cooling sub reddit is actually a phenomenal source. EK's V2 of the vector block is no longer a plexi plate due to corrosion and complaints. I wouldn't say 22 dollars for a bottle of clear coolant is gonna make or break you or me when we have spent what we have on the rigs to begin with lol.

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/13 19:26:49 (permalink)
    GloR1ouS_
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    Nice build. Surprised you didn't go hard tubing, its just so much more clean. If I were to choose soft, 100% black tubing. Looks super clean. Great scores on your benches too. Your 12900K was definitely a better bin than mine.



    Thanks Glor1

    Yeah simply cant be bothered with Hard Tube....that level of aesthetics Im not looking for at all..flex is too easy.....I'm more about performance...although the Hard Tubing indeed is "super clean"!!

    I can bench no problem with this 12900k P 5.3 E 4.1 reasonable voltages.....5.4 all core takes big leaps though!

    Funny I was just looking at ordering some more flex tube and will likely go matte black this time around ;)


    Heck yeah dude. Matte black gonna be super fine. I notice you are using distilled water with EK fluid but a lot of research I have done showed EK fluids as real bad. So many stories over on watercooling reddit. I also saw people with EK blocks getting corroded/worn by distilled water with any additive. This made me decide to go with XL8 clear as my build is very block open friendly to world. Real jealous of your cpu's bin quality though. I have 1 p core that just runs hot. They all hit 78-82 under 30 mins of being hammered by r23 at 5.1/4.1 at 1.3V. Then theres pcore 7 hitting 86c peak but all in all the average temp of this heavy stress test is 82-84c.



    Been running distilled w EK clear Cryo for 4 yrs now ,....no issues...even neglected to dump my loop after well over 2 yrs...never have I had any issues with any type of corrosion or build up of gunk in my Blocks / Fins....
    Been running Custom loop going on 9 yrs now so don't really pay much attention to "claims of..." or Reddit for that matter :) As I know what my experiences have been over the years and build on that....EK Cryo Concentrate clear is far too easy and very reasonably priced at around $12 for a liter of ready to use product ....my loop takes 1.5L coolant...odd number so always have 3 bottles of concentrate in hand....I have also ran straight distilled in my system for up 8 months as ran out of Cryo and got lazy ;) ...
     
    I "try" to get around to flushing my system every 12 months (max)....but have gone 24 months (the longest) and usualy 18 months is more normal as I leave it until A) I know Im swapping out GPU or Board B) I notice GPU temps start to rise indicating that my Cold Plate fins should be cleaned.
     
    ....one thing I have found and built on over all these years with my custom loop....WC'ing is far more forgiving that what many newer wet heads claim :) ....a LOT of myths out there.
     
    There's so much "gimmicky" crap to spend $$$ on....coolant shouldn't be one of em....one thing I have always avoided in my loop is coolants with dyes ....also several years ago there were issues with galvanic corrosion w EK Blocks and build up of gunk within Cold Plate fins from materials within some brands of flex tube....but all those issues were resolved....
     
    Had someone tell me I "absolutely had" to have a coolant temp sensor in my loop.....I had chuckled as I do have one, but its been in my box of Bits Power fittings since 2013, always forget to install it.....point is, once you have a decent loop, you will get right intimate with it and can spot anomalies simply by monitoring your CPU / GPU idle n load temps.
     
    I also have 1 or 2 P Cores that run warmer ....perfectly normal behavior on every CPU I have owned ;)
     
    Take stuff you read on reddit with big ole grain of salt ;) ....build on your own experiences...its always been a fun hobby!
     
     




    You know how many pictures I have seen on the newer EK blocks being corroded or yellowed with distilled water + anti bacterial? the water cooling sub reddit is actually a phenomenal source. EK's V2 of the vector block is no longer a plexi plate due to corrosion and complaints. I wouldn't say 22 dollars for a bottle of clear coolant is gonna make or break you or me when we have spent what we have on the rigs to begin with lol.




    Well...there will always be the fear mongers....as said been using EK clear concentrate for 4 years now and no issues, so sticking with it ;) ....unless I have issues, but Im confident in my choice of gear.
    I have never used plexi in any blocks....acetol n nickel or all nickel.(plated copper of course)...
     
    I'll bet the "redditters" say you have to use a $40 "special rad cleaner" as well ;) ...I use diluted CLR...followed by flushed with distilled ....works great...as said, Loops arent eggs...they are very robust and forgiving....
     
    Even though I just put this system together I'll drain here in a few months to replace my Vector w Vector 2.....pretty cool looking block...will match up nicely with my Velocity 2...last count I had 3 Velocity Blcoks and 6 Supremacy Blocks in my closet ......I'm like a Block Hoarder...that is one problem with WC'ing, you wind up with a stock pile of both CPU n GPU Blocks ;)
     
    Since 2013 I have changed out my D5 Vario pump once....

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/13 19:26:49 (permalink)
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    Nice build. Surprised you didn't go hard tubing, its just so much more clean. If I were to choose soft, 100% black tubing. Looks super clean. Great scores on your benches too. Your 12900K was definitely a better bin than mine.



    Thanks Glor1

    Yeah simply cant be bothered with Hard Tube....that level of aesthetics Im not looking for at all..flex is too easy.....I'm more about performance...although the Hard Tubing indeed is "super clean"!!

    I can bench no problem with this 12900k P 5.3 E 4.1 reasonable voltages.....5.4 all core takes big leaps though!

    Funny I was just looking at ordering some more flex tube and will likely go matte black this time around ;)


    Heck yeah dude. Matte black gonna be super fine. I notice you are using distilled water with EK fluid but a lot of research I have done showed EK fluids as real bad. So many stories over on watercooling reddit. I also saw people with EK blocks getting corroded/worn by distilled water with any additive. This made me decide to go with XL8 clear as my build is very block open friendly to world. Real jealous of your cpu's bin quality though. I have 1 p core that just runs hot. They all hit 78-82 under 30 mins of being hammered by r23 at 5.1/4.1 at 1.3V. Then theres pcore 7 hitting 86c peak but all in all the average temp of this heavy stress test is 82-84c.



    Been running distilled w EK clear Cryo for 4 yrs now ,....no issues...even neglected to dump my loop after well over 2 yrs...never have I had any issues with any type of corrosion or build up of gunk in my Blocks / Fins....
    Been running Custom loop going on 9 yrs now so don't really pay much attention to "claims of..." or Reddit for that matter :) As I know what my experiences have been over the years and build on that....EK Cryo Concentrate clear is far too easy and very reasonably priced at around $12 for a liter of ready to use product ....my loop takes 1.5L coolant...odd number so always have 3 bottles of concentrate in hand....I have also ran straight distilled in my system for up 8 months as ran out of Cryo and got lazy ;) ...
     
    I "try" to get around to flushing my system every 12 months (max)....but have gone 24 months (the longest) and usualy 18 months is more normal as I leave it until A) I know Im swapping out GPU or Board B) I notice GPU temps start to rise indicating that my Cold Plate fins should be cleaned.
     
    ....one thing I have found and built on over all these years with my custom loop....WC'ing is far more forgiving that what many newer wet heads claim :) ....a LOT of myths out there.
     
    There's so much "gimmicky" crap to spend $$$ on....coolant shouldn't be one of em....one thing I have always avoided in my loop is coolants with dyes ....also several years ago there were issues with galvanic corrosion w EK Blocks and build up of gunk within Cold Plate fins from materials within some brands of flex tube....but all those issues were resolved....
     
    Had someone tell me I "absolutely had" to have a coolant temp sensor in my loop.....I had chuckled as I do have one, but its been in my box of Bits Power fittings since 2013, always forget to install it.....point is, once you have a decent loop, you will get right intimate with it and can spot anomalies simply by monitoring your CPU / GPU idle n load temps.
     
    I also have 1 or 2 P Cores that run warmer ....perfectly normal behavior on every CPU I have owned ;)
     
    Take stuff you read on reddit with big ole grain of salt ;) ....build on your own experiences...its always been a fun hobby!
     
     




    You know how many pictures I have seen on the newer EK blocks being corroded or yellowed with distilled water + anti bacterial? the water cooling sub reddit is actually a phenomenal source. EK's V2 of the vector block is no longer a plexi plate due to corrosion and complaints. I wouldn't say 22 dollars for a bottle of clear coolant is gonna make or break you or me when we have spent what we have on the rigs to begin with lol.




    Well...there will always be the fear mongers....as said been using EK clear concentrate for 4 years now and no issues, so sticking with it ;) ....unless I have issues, but Im confident in my choice of gear.
    I have never used plexi in any blocks....acetol n nickel or all nickel.(plated copper of course)...
     
    I'll bet the "redditters" say you have to use a $40 "special rad cleaner" as well ;) ...I use diluted CLR...followed by flushed with distilled ....works great...as said, Loops arent eggs...they are very robust and forgiving....
     
    Even though I just put this system together I'll drain here in a few months to replace my Vector w Vector 2.....pretty cool looking block...will match up nicely with my Velocity 2...last count I had 3 Velocity Blcoks and 6 Supremacy Blocks in my closet ......I'm like a Block Hoarder...that is one problem with WC'ing, you wind up with a stock pile of both CPU n GPU Blocks ;)
     
    Since 2013 I have changed out my D5 Vario pump once....

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/15 06:46:39 (permalink)
    Nice Job on the build!

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/15 14:13:20 (permalink)
    bobmitch
    Nice Job on the build!




    Thanks Bob
     
    Yep pretty happy with this build....decent numbers including thermals!
    W11 wasnt the "horror show" I was reading online and expecting....all good...couldn't see the point of building a brand new Z690 platform with "old" DDR4 RAM and further gimping it with W10....went all in with new platform instead....glad I did ;)
    post edited by rjbarker - 2022/02/15 14:17:06

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/16 00:56:48 (permalink)
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    Nice Job on the build!




    Thanks Bob
     
    Yep pretty happy with this build....decent numbers including thermals!
    W11 wasnt the "horror show" I was reading online and expecting....all good...couldn't see the point of building a brand new Z690 platform with "old" DDR4 RAM and further gimping it with W10....went all in with new platform instead....glad I did ;)


    Not only does w11 latency gimp gaming by windows compositer being ****, games have worse latency on d5 due to the fact its in 2:1 mode. D5 benches nice but it definitely loses in latency and 0.1 and 1% lows far more than people realize. A properly tweaked w10 beats windows 11 even on 12th gen. I personally hate the way windows 11 works and has been reskin even while being tweaked. We don't even have a clock on the second monitor without running bloatware. Easy pass for now.

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/16 15:18:31 (permalink)
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    Nice Job on the build!




    Thanks Bob
     
    Yep pretty happy with this build....decent numbers including thermals!
    W11 wasnt the "horror show" I was reading online and expecting....all good...couldn't see the point of building a brand new Z690 platform with "old" DDR4 RAM and further gimping it with W10....went all in with new platform instead....glad I did ;)


    Not only does w11 latency gimp gaming by windows compositer being ****, games have worse latency on d5 due to the fact its in 2:1 mode. D5 benches nice but it definitely loses in latency and 0.1 and 1% lows far more than people realize. A properly tweaked w10 beats windows 11 even on 12th gen. I personally hate the way windows 11 works and has been reskin even while being tweaked. We don't even have a clock on the second monitor without running bloatware. Easy pass for now.

    GloR1ouS_
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    Nice Job on the build!




    Thanks Bob
     
    Yep pretty happy with this build....decent numbers including thermals!
    W11 wasnt the "horror show" I was reading online and expecting....all good...couldn't see the point of building a brand new Z690 platform with "old" DDR4 RAM and further gimping it with W10....went all in with new platform instead....glad I did ;)


    Not only does w11 latency gimp gaming by windows compositer being ****, games have worse latency on d5 due to the fact its in 2:1 mode. D5 benches nice but it definitely loses in latency and 0.1 and 1% lows far more than people realize. A properly tweaked w10 beats windows 11 even on 12th gen. I personally hate the way windows 11 works and has been reskin even while being tweaked. We don't even have a clock on the second monitor without running bloatware. Easy pass for now.




    More Reddit stuff ....as said I don't pay any attention to Reddit.. ;)
     
    I have been reading posts by Shamino & Faulkentein as these are reputable enthusiasts that I have followed for many generations  (ROG and OC.net)...and more recently @Braegnok as he has been all over the DDR5.....also lurks here...ROG and OC.net
     
    ...haven't had ANY issues at all with W11 or DDR5 gaming .....drivers...video editing....or any other tasks I do....if I did I would surely post it up here ;)
     
    Easy pass for you....but didn't make any sense to me not to try it out,..beside ROG Maximus Boards are DDR5 exclusive....glad yours is working good though ;)
     
    post edited by rjbarker - 2022/02/16 17:06:21

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/16 17:08:02 (permalink)
    No, not reddit. A little tool called Ldat. https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-latency-display-analysis-tool Why buy into the hype of a product at launch when its literally going to perform worse than DDR4 for the entire 12th generation launch? It probably won't out perform DDR4 until Z790. The theory of DDR5 is cool but not worth the price premium at all when actually hinders performance. The only thing that actually likes DDR5 bandwidth is synthetic benchmarks. Reviewers ect actually gimp down DDR4 vs DDR5 to make the gap look closer but I promise my kit running at CL13 stomps any DDR5 kit in gaming. There's maybe 3 games on the market that actually like DDR5 more and its probably because its optimization is bad and brute force method.
     
    I'm not trying to talk down your build or anything. Cool you went with DDR5 but don't talk on DDR4 when you didn't do your research or have your facts right. I literally almost opted for DDR5 but it makes way too much sense why it loses to DDR4. The latency isn't even close so why spend thousands on a build that performs worse? My DDR4 kit cost almost as much as a 32G DDR5 kit anyways.
    post edited by GloR1ouS_ - 2022/02/16 17:14:30

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/02/16 18:12:53 (permalink)
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    No, not reddit. A little tool called Ldat. https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-latency-display-analysis-tool Why buy into the hype of a product at launch when its literally going to perform worse than DDR4 for the entire 12th generation launch? It probably won't out perform DDR4 until Z790. The theory of DDR5 is cool but not worth the price premium at all when actually hinders performance. The only thing that actually likes DDR5 bandwidth is synthetic benchmarks. Reviewers ect actually gimp down DDR4 vs DDR5 to make the gap look closer but I promise my kit running at CL13 stomps any DDR5 kit in gaming. There's maybe 3 games on the market that actually like DDR5 more and its probably because its optimization is bad and brute force method.
     
    I'm not trying to talk down your build or anything. Cool you went with DDR5 but don't talk on DDR4 when you didn't do your research or have your facts right. I literally almost opted for DDR5 but it makes way too much sense why it loses to DDR4. The latency isn't even close so why spend thousands on a build that performs worse? My DDR4 kit cost almost as much as a 32G DDR5 kit anyways.



    Ok..... STOP !!! ......with all due respect (now Im being really polite)......this is my Mods / build page....not a DDR4 vs DDR5 or W10 vs W11 page..
     
    Cheers
    post edited by rjbarker - 2022/02/16 19:04:09

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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/03/18 09:58:55 (permalink)
    So have settled into a decent 24/7 OC system, really been throwing the AAA Marathon sessions to it.
    Absolutely solid with no issues.
     
    I was having issues with random game freezing, CTD's etc but narrowed that down to Memory instability.
    12900K (All Core) 5.1P / 4.1E / 4.3 Uncore 1.285v LLC 5 Max Temp R23 68c - Score 29.3K
    Dominator 6200 / C36 - Could not stabilize at 6200 regardles of tweaking, so stable at 6000 32-35-35-74 2T
    3080Ti FTW3 - +120/+675 for 24/7 Gaming
     
    CP77 marathon sessions several evenings in a row have been perfect.
    All settings cranked (except Psycho) 3440*1440p 65-85 FPS
     
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    Re: Custom Loop Updated w New HW - 12900k Dominator DDR5 - 3080Ti FTW3 2022/03/19 04:20:32 (permalink)
    rjbarker
    So have settled into a decent 24/7 OC system, really been throwing the AAA Marathon sessions to it.
    Absolutely solid with no issues.
     
    I was having issues with random game freezing, CTD's etc but narrowed that down to Memory instability.
    12900K (All Core) 5.1P / 4.1E / 4.3 Uncore 1.285v LLC 5 Max Temp R23 68c - Score 29.3K
    Dominator 6200 / C36 - Could not stabilize at 6200 regardles of tweaking, so stable at 6000 32-35-35-74 2T
    3080Ti FTW3 - +120/+675 for 24/7 Gaming
     
    CP77 marathon sessions several evenings in a row have been perfect.
    All settings cranked (except Psycho) 3440*1440p 65-85 FPS
     
    Cheers all!


    Fantastic info. Gaming power!

    AMD Ryzen 9 5950X,  Corsair Mp600 Pro M.2, 128GB DDR4  Crosshair VIII Hero, RTX 3090ti FTW Ultra Associate Code: H5U80QBH6BH0AXF. I am NOT an employee of EVGA

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