NVIDIA doesn't even do full ray tracing, if you didn't know it yet, they used lots of false marketing to lie to their customers and try to over sell a tech that is barely used as they have been doing for many years.
All companies lie about certain things even AMD has lies over certain things, it's a shame it happens because personally companies need to be honest over spreading tons of lies, people are paying for these things even most don't even know what they are actually paying their coin for... anyways that is for an other topic.
So as Ray tracing goes that Crytek Demo and NV's RTX< well sorry to hurt your feelings but they actual do about the same, only NV uses hardware and the demo uses software emulation, the effects is the same, a common gamer won't see the difference, you give a system with a Vega 56 and a RTX 2060 Super and you let both systems run the demo and not revealing what has what no one will notice as the average cabbage goes, even the Vega 64 will have a warmer image output this is known with AMD GPU's but other than the they effects being done will be the same.
So not much difference :)
It's all partial these days, Full ray tracing won't run on any GPU, forget it, you needs tons of 64 core EPYC CPU's stacked up to actually do this, yet by the year 2023 a 2024, by then ray tracing might make more sense, but not now, it's of no real need or purpose, most gamers won't care and just turn the effect off and choose the raw GPU power instead.
But since all the new-gen consoles are using AMD Navi Chips and they are getting Ray Tracing as well, this might change by mid 2021 maybe a bit later but not by that much.
So due to that I can understand why that AMD's method can greatly improve over NVIDIA's partial method, consoles are owned by 50-% of the gamers, Microsoft X-Box, Sony's PlayStation, Nintendo's Nintendo series & the Google Stadia's, they all use AMD CPU's & GPUs' and all of these will play a large role especially if ray tracing will be added using AMD's method thereby decreasing performance loss yet maintaining superb image quality yes Navi will do this with RDNA 2.0 or what ever they will call it and the PC will also get this it's all a matter of time. AMD has dominated Intel and they will dominate NVIDIA just as hard and it's about time as well, it's just one massive volcanic eruption that is about to erupt and the lava flow does the rest
that is how I am experiencing this all.
The market is going to get a lovely change with all that, well eventually, but that is good, sometimes changes can bring good results for options that cost less coin and get you similar or even better results.
As for that Crytek scene, it's simple because it just works right, so who cares most gamers that play fast paced games won't even notice it or left alone not care about it personally I don't see the difference of RTX ON or OFF, the darker image looks dark and lack of detail as where the lighter image looks great and well lit, yet the darker image is the one using ray tracing and well then lol if it's that bad I never saw the point on investing 1400 euro for a GPU that can do that barely at 1440 a 1600p sorry but that just sucks if I have to be honest here.
NV never gave me them special green glasses to see it apparently
haha xD ah well.
What Crytek did with that demo is just pure brilliance and even it's a very early stage demo they can do far more than just that, but then again most gamers would already appreciate it A it doesn't cost them over 1200 euro to pay a GPU to do that and B they can just use their old GCN GPU or GTX 700 series GPU and higher to enjoy it.
This means that It allows Ray Tracing to be usable for everyone and I am sure CryTek will improve it majorly, since it's a pretty old demo.
But hey I might be wrong ya know, all cool if that is the case, it doesn't really bother me, no one is perfect that word died out long ago for me
We all learn making mistakes and we learn from learning it correctly from resources that provide neutral and accurate information.
Propaganda sites never work for me I ignore those.
Yet my biggest dream is that we get more GPU brands and CPU brands too maybe?
With that the market gets more choice, Matrox & S3 still exist would be nice if they would join in as well then we'd have AMD, NVIDIA, Intel, ARM, Matrox, S3 & that Chinese Company, more competitions means lower and healthier prices this too will make it's move someday and such things like what CryTek did with that Ray tracing demo are just an example what is possible without the need of high taxes for overpriced VGA cards.
With this game developers also have more choice as well, the Vulkan API will also be more GPU & OS Friendly one API for all operating systems , Hardware systems & Consoles, one API for everything.
Then we can finally stick to Linux and use that instead :) A neutral world is always better than a single biassed one.
My apologies for this long comment I just like making a full post than a small one just had a alot to say of this Ray tracing demo and everything that will go around it over times to come.
Now back to playing with my 3dfx Voodoo3 3500 system, that is pure fun to me
Gameplay is more important to me than graphics, most new gen games are plain awful anyways, so I am not missing out on much.
3dfx Retro games 4 Life xD
post edited by Gold Leader - 2019/09/16 06:22:05