Ok totally strange, Folding said updating core and just stopped.  After a hour I uninstalled and rebooted.  7.5.1 I can not even get to install and take my credentials.  So removed it all and put on 7.4.4.  This is after a clean install with getting rid of data folder also.  At least now I can get credentials in but still just sits there forever saying updating core. 

Ok looked at my other folding rig and found it was not even creating the top core folder in the roaming folder.  So copied it from that machine to the my newer machine.

Yeah it is running now, thanks all.