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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/05 11:26:29 (permalink)
For RTX GPUs, you'll have to remember you have 2 limitations in overclocking,
1- is the maximum stable overclock delta (usually 35Mhz-170Mhz on RTX GPUs),
2- and the maximum stable GPU frequency.
 
Once GPUs get lower loads, and therefore lower temperatures, overclock deltas that work fine on normal (near to 100% GPU) load situations, may clock your GPU past it's max GPU frequency.
Eg: Older RTX GPUs had a max stable overclock of 1925Mhz, but newer ones can often hit 2050Mhz or even 2085Mhz in some cases.
Once you surpass that threshold, the GPU will crash.
If you have set your GPU at a safe 1995Mhz (of the max stable of eg: 2010Mhz), and the load lowers, GPU temperatures lower and the driver will bump up the frequency to the next 15Mhz, and error.
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/05 12:24:52 (permalink)
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For RTX GPUs, you'll have to remember you have 2 limitations in overclocking,
1- is the maximum stable overclock delta (usually 35Mhz-170Mhz on RTX GPUs),
2- and the maximum stable GPU frequency.
 
Once GPUs get lower loads, and therefore lower temperatures, overclock deltas that work fine on normal (near to 100% GPU) load situations, may clock your GPU past it's max GPU frequency.
Eg: Older RTX GPUs had a max stable overclock of 1925Mhz, but newer ones can often hit 2050Mhz or even 2085Mhz in some cases.
Once you surpass that threshold, the GPU will crash.
If you have set your GPU at a safe 1995Mhz (of the max stable of eg: 2010Mhz), and the load lowers, GPU temperatures lower and the driver will bump up the frequency to the next 15Mhz, and error.

And has absolutely nothing to with Core 22.

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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/05 13:26:00 (permalink)
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For RTX GPUs, you'll have to remember you have 2 limitations in overclocking,
1- is the maximum stable overclock delta (usually 35Mhz-170Mhz on RTX GPUs),
2- and the maximum stable GPU frequency.
 
Once GPUs get lower loads, and therefore lower temperatures, overclock deltas that work fine on normal (near to 100% GPU) load situations, may clock your GPU past it's max GPU frequency.
Eg: Older RTX GPUs had a max stable overclock of 1925Mhz, but newer ones can often hit 2050Mhz or even 2085Mhz in some cases.
Once you surpass that threshold, the GPU will crash.
If you have set your GPU at a safe 1995Mhz (of the max stable of eg: 2010Mhz), and the load lowers, GPU temperatures lower and the driver will bump up the frequency to the next 15Mhz, and error.

And has absolutely nothing to with Core 22.


That Might have been in response to my Post #59 ? (posted below)
 
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Core 22 like every other WUs have a large variation in PPD  & some just plain Fail once in a while, on my otherwise stable platform.

I've got a couple of those big PPD ones, though it is funny they seem to load the GPU less than most of the other WUs

 
Interesting concept; However, I've Never seen my GPU(s) Clock Up - based on my Settings --> & yes they are Higher than mentioned by ProDigit
 
I have No problem Believing it is just a Bad WU ... I'm doing Over 200 WU a Day --> make +1300 WU a Week & when one or two fails out of the Blue .... its Not Likely to be My Rig at Fault

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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/05 13:41:09 (permalink)
Got it, I thought it was his normal random postings.
@ProDigit You might what to start using Quote so we know it is not a post out of the blues.

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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/06 11:18:48 (permalink)
Ok ran the file to turn on PCIE 3 on X79 chipset and one of my 1080TI's is getting 2 million PPD on a 11739 work unit.


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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/06 12:12:40 (permalink)
11739 seem to give best yield on 10 series GPU
11738 are giving me better results on 20 series cards

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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/06 12:25:44 (permalink)
yeah 11738 I am hitting 3.9 million PPD on my 2080TI's  Around 3-3.5 million on 11739


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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/06 13:08:21 (permalink)
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Ok ran the file to turn on PCIE 3 on X79 chipset and one of my 1080TI's is getting 2 million PPD on a 11739 work unit.

Remember that you still need to run force-enable-gen3.exe after Each Driver Install. "Run as administrator"
 Geforce Gen3 Support On X79 Platform  
 
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/06 13:38:35 (permalink)
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Ok ran the file to turn on PCIE 3 on X79 chipset and one of my 1080TI's is getting 2 million PPD on a 11739 work unit.

Remember that you still need to run force-enable-gen3.exe after Each Driver Install. "Run as administrator"
 Geforce Gen3 Support On X79 Platform  
 




Yep forgot the run as administrator first time running the file.  1080TI machine I never sit in front of and hardly update as long as it is Folding.


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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/06 14:58:47 (permalink)
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Got it, I thought it was his normal random postings.
@ProDigit You might what to start using Quote so we know it is not a post out of the blues.


No one randomly posts here.
However, the quote function from Mobile gives me trouble.
 
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That Might have been in response to my Post #59 ? (posted below)
 
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Core 22 like every other WUs have a large variation in PPD  & some just plain Fail once in a while, on my otherwise stable platform.

I've got a couple of those big PPD ones, though it is funny they seem to load the GPU less than most of the other WUs

 
Interesting concept; However, I've Never seen my GPU(s) Clock Up - based on my Settings --> & yes they are Higher than mentioned by ProDigit
 
I have No problem Believing it is just a Bad WU ... I'm doing Over 200 WU a Day --> make +1300 WU a Week & when one or two fails out of the Blue .... its Not Likely to be My Rig at Fault


you can see the core frequency go down, if you lower fan speed (and GPU temps go up).
Similarly, when GPU temps go down, core speed gets upclocked by the driver.
It sometimes results in errors. Especially when GPUs run close to their max GPU frequency, and for some odd reason ambient drops by 20F (usually results in GPU temps dropping by 10-20C, means the GPU will upthrottle 2 to 4 steps on the core frequency).
 
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/07 11:55:21 (permalink)
Yep, the Temp to MHz & Watts pulled is a thing ......
 
Good thing I pulled back on my stable Core 21 settings - just for the Core 22 WU
 
When I get a couple of "Failed WU" in a week where I've Successfully Completed over 1400 WU - I have No problem - thinking the WU had issues
 
If it was Just a Temp/MHz thing - then the Next WU would fail more often [Never Happened] - as the Card is even Cooler & higher MHz after the Failed WU - No ?
 
Anyways with like < a 0.2% failure rate - I'm Not Motivated to change my setup
 
Now if Only there was a Good way to switch OC setting Automatically based on WU .... those Core 21 are taking too long with Core 22 settings

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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/07 12:46:20 (permalink)
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Yep, the Temp to MHz & Watts pulled is a thing ......
Good thing I pulled back on my stable Core 21 settings - just for the Core 22 WU
When I get a couple of "Failed WU" in a week where I've Successfully Completed over 1400 WU - I have No problem - thinking the WU had issues
If it was Just a Temp/MHz thing - then the Next WU would fail more often [Never Happened] - as the Card is even Cooler & higher MHz after the Failed WU - No ?
Anyways with like < a 0.2% failure rate - I'm Not Motivated to change my setup
Now if Only there was a Good way to switch OC setting Automatically based on WU .... those Core 21 are taking too long with Core 22 settings

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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/07 17:07:28 (permalink)
I'm limited to 1440Watts on one socket, and am seriously considering running from a 3+4GPU setup, to a 3+3 GPU setup, as I'm already running close to the breaker tripping point with Core 22, and the GPUs still want more power.
Probably 200W is the sweet spot for RTX 2080 Tis with an overclock, and in an open case environment (with ~60-80F ambient).
That means I'll have to see if it benefits me running 6GPUs hotter, vs 7GPUs at a slightly lower wattage.
 
But one thing is clear, 
PPD goes up drastically with power consumption!
From 2.2M PPD at 169W on Core 21, to 3.1M PPD on core 22, to 3.5M PPD at 190W on core 22, and possibly even more...
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/07 17:31:37 (permalink)
last night was when i was given infor on Core 22 .  and today i believe im on my third or more core 22 project.  Not sure how many i have done thus far ..   im running with 1 - EVGA1070FTW with a OC of 135 on core and 125 on mem from boost clock mode .. And my system seems to be doing ok, temp is about 74 with fans set on a aggressive curve target power set to max...  but my issue is im still only nailing down about 658k a day.  not sure why .  but its low to me, being how i see others hitting 1 mill to 1.3 daily .. all drivers are up todate im not running a old system my board is a EVGA Z390 with a I7 8700K ..   if any one has any tricks or fixs let me know.   other than going out and buying a new video card i dont have the funds for right now..
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/07 17:36:42 (permalink)
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last night was when i was given infor on Core 22 .  and today i believe im on my third or more core 22 project.  Not sure how many i have done thus far ..   im running with 1 - EVGA1070FTW with a OC of 135 on core and 125 on mem from boost clock mode .. And my system seems to be doing ok, temp is about 74 with fans set on a aggressive curve target power set to max...  but my issue is im still only nailing down about 658k a day.  not sure why .  but its low to me, being how i see others hitting 1 mill to 1.3 daily .. all drivers are up todate im not running a old system my board is a EVGA Z390 with a I7 8700K ..   if any one has any tricks or fixs let me know.   other than going out and buying a new video card i dont have the funds for right now..


1- Are you running any power capping (lowering power consumption) on your GPU?
2- Did you check in the log, if any 'BAD WU' or 'is your system overclocked' - notifications are displayed?
 
Any stable overclock on Core 21, needs to be lowered by 5 to 10Mhz on core 22. My initial conclusion, but not 100% sure about any accurate numbers yet as also I have been running core 22 for less than 20 hours now.
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/07 20:03:57 (permalink)
my core 22 just stopped working, for the last 4 hours now, its just been saying downloading..
so for now i removed the info to get it to go back to the core 21 stuff .. 
no power capping or lowering
over clock was min to what i normaly over clock too.  CPU even thou its not used was stock, the 1070FTW was over clocked to 130 over on the core, so under my normal over clock of 160, mem was at 100 over clocked under my normal over clock of 150.  i did adjust the voltage as i always do to 5mv.  fans were at aggressive curve, temps was in the low 70s..
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/07 22:31:19 (permalink)
Ok, got some important info here.
This is for Linux. Numbers are worse for windoze.
 
CPU utilization seems identical on both core 21 and core 22 folding.
But pcie bandwidth, not so much!
 
Pcie 3.0 1x slot risers are out of the question for core 22! Period!
 
Seems like the min is 4x (On linux at least, windows might need more).
On 1x I get 79% pcie bandwidth utilization, vs 20 something on core 21. The readout is average, but there's a clear pcie bandwidth bottleneck.
 
Speeds on 1x risers are lower (1M on an RTX 2070 Super) on core 22, than on core 21 (1.3M PPD).
 
On 4x and up, I get 50% pcie bandwidth utilization (same for 8x).
Speeds of 4x and 8x are the same on all RTX 2080Tis, so it's safe to say you'll need a PCIE 3.0 4x or more. PCIE 2.0 4x might work on slower than RTX2060 GPUs.
 
It is safe to say FAH is aiming towards pcie 4.0 1x systems in the future. Combined with multi cores, one future PC could easily drive 6 to 10GPUs if need be, on one motherboard. With 50% lower power consumption per GPU, this will be viable to run on one lower outlet.
 
I've removed the 1x riser GPU, and instead pushed the 150Watts my 2070 Super was using, spread it over the remaining GPUs, and they increased tremendously in speed!
At 200W I am running past 4 Mil PPD per GPU! (RTX 2080Ti in Linux). Well past what my 150Watt 207/Super can provide, and almost twice the speed of core 21!!!
 
So my answer would be: Run your GPUs in a pcie 8x4x4x or 4x4x4x configuration. Core 22 is for the big boys, high end RTX numbers are nuts on Linux, and I can't even begin to imagine what RTX Titans or higher end gear can do!
 
For your entertainment,
This is only my second tune, they're still ramping up, but here's my first GPU surpassing the threshold, 4.3M PPD on 11738. They're only reaching 3.9M PPD on 11739.
 

post edited by ProDigit - 2020/01/07 22:48:59
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/08 05:06:28 (permalink)
RTX 2080 ti running unlocked at 300 watt in Linux: 4.4M PPD with peaks going at 4.6M PPD (on a single GPU).

 
RTX 2080 fully unlocked on core 22 surpasses RTX 2080 Ti on core 21 at 2.6M PPD.

 
post edited by ProDigit - 2020/01/08 07:36:13
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/08 07:05:23 (permalink)
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You are only comparing Linux to Linux so I an not sure why you keep saying that Linux is Faster than Windows and your postings that Linux is better and faster than Windows for Folding and Churching have no merit or proof of concept.
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/08 07:34:43 (permalink)
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@ProDigit
You are only comparing Linux to Linux so I an not sure why you keep saying that Linux is Faster than Windows and your postings that Linux is better and faster than Windows for Folding and Churching have no merit or proof of concept.



Why always so negative?
I don't 'keep saying' this, although it is a fact that Linux is faster.
And I'm not comparing Linux to anything. I'm just posting the results.
The highest windows reports on 2080Tis on core 22 is 3.9M PPD right now.
 
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/08 10:53:37 (permalink)
After a bit of playing around, I found out it was better to have 6 GPUs running a little cooler, than running 5 hotter, in my case.
 
3 main reasons why:
1- some WUs are generating high temperatures (20+C higher than normal) when running a GPU at it's rated power, causing it to thermal throttle. To prevent this, I rather cap their power, to prevent any damage. Capping 300W to 220W reduced the temps considerably from 85C to 69C on those hot Wu's.
2- Even though the beta flag is set, I'm still getting occasional core 21 Wu's, that can use lower power consumption. In such case it's much better to run more GPUs.
3- As it turns out, running 5x RTX 2080 Tis at full power nets me ~500K-1M PPD lower, than running those 5 at capped power, and add one additional RTX 2080, with same overall system power draw.
 
 
I found the sweet spot for my 2080Ti GPUs, running them at 4M PPD can be done at ~210-225Watt, vs 280-300W stock.
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/08 16:16:23 (permalink)
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@ProDigit
You are only comparing Linux to Linux so I an not sure why you keep saying that Linux is Faster than Windows and your postings that Linux is better and faster than Windows for Folding and Churching have no merit or proof of concept.

Why always so negative?
I don't 'keep saying' this, although it is a fact that Linux is faster.
And I'm not comparing Linux to anything. I'm just posting the results.
The highest windows reports on 2080Tis on core 22 is 3.9M PPD right now.

Fact as stated by you above.
And mine was 4.2M PPD under Windows 10 running the newer Core22 Work Units' that is.
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/08 19:20:29 (permalink)
the question is, when comparing windows to linux are the system running both the same parts.  If not then any comparing can not be done in fairness to each operating system , because if one system is running a different kinda of memory or a different cpu or mother board.  then those scores are void, in each testings and findings..  that is the thing you have to REALLY look at its the same with doing bench marks .. not install windows run it a bit and then formate your drive and install linux and run it.  you really can not get a FAIR all around score that way,  two systems same parts, same settings, one with windows and one with Linux ..  until then its all hear say, on what operating system gets better points,   do it SIDE by SIDE with each running at the same time ... 
 
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/08 19:43:25 (permalink)
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the question is, when comparing windows to linux are the system running both the same parts.  If not then any comparing can not be done in fairness to each operating system , because if one system is running a different kinda of memory or a different cpu or mother board.  then those scores are void, in each testings and findings..  that is the thing you have to REALLY look at its the same with doing bench marks .. not install windows run it a bit and then formate your drive and install linux and run it.  you really can not get a FAIR all around score that way,  two systems same parts, same settings, one with windows and one with Linux ..  until then its all hear say, on what operating system gets better points,   do it SIDE by SIDE with each running at the same time ... 


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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/09 02:22:25 (permalink)
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@ProDigit
You are only comparing Linux to Linux so I an not sure why you keep saying that Linux is Faster than Windows and your postings that Linux is better and faster than Windows for Folding and Churching have no merit or proof of concept.

Why always so negative?
I don't 'keep saying' this, although it is a fact that Linux is faster.
And I'm not comparing Linux to anything. I'm just posting the results.
The highest windows reports on 2080Tis on core 22 is 3.9M PPD right now.

Fact as stated by you above.
And mine was 4.2M PPD under Windows 10 running the newer Core22 Work Units' that is.




BC, are you overclocked cards or on water blocks?  That is some great points.  Mine are still on air at 3.9 and I run stock clocks.


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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/09 06:12:34 (permalink)
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@ProDigit
You are only comparing Linux to Linux so I an not sure why you keep saying that Linux is Faster than Windows and your postings that Linux is better and faster than Windows for Folding and Churching have no merit or proof of concept.

Why always so negative?
I don't 'keep saying' this, although it is a fact that Linux is faster.
And I'm not comparing Linux to anything. I'm just posting the results.
The highest windows reports on 2080Tis on core 22 is 3.9M PPD right now.

Fact as stated by you above.
And mine was 4.2M PPD under Windows 10 running the newer Core22 Work Units' that is.

BC, are you overclocked cards or on water blocks?  That is some great points.  Mine are still on air at 3.9 and I run stock clocks.

Yes to Both.

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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/09 07:09:16 (permalink)
It's been common knowledge on the folding forum now for years, that Linux is faster than windows by an average of 10%, this spread out over years of comparisons and different projects.
This due to lower pcie bandwidth overhead, and background activity in Linux.
The fact that I got 4.4M PPD, totally aircooled on Linux, vs 3.9M aircooled, or 4.2M water-cooled, again proves it is still true on core 22.
So I don't get why some people get offended, when these results are posted?
 
As far as overclocking, ram, CPU speed, and the likes all don't matter. All you need is meet the bare minimum (2-4GB of DDR3 or DDR4 ram (makes no measurable difference),  and 1 core per GPU that preferably runs at greater than 2.9Ghz for RTX 2060, and runs at greater than 3.2Ghz for an RTX 2080Ti).
 
And that they run in pcie 3.0 1x or greater under Linux, or 2.0 4x or greater under Windows.
Core 22 kicks it up a notch to pcie 3.0 4x in Linux, and as some have mentioned, pcie 3.0 1x is even a bottleneck for older GTX GPUs.
The rest is entirely up to the GPU.
Once you meet the specifications, your numbers should be within 10% identical of a similar system.
 
Since core 22 runs hotter, adequate cooling is preferred.
It's not recommended to run core 22 in a closed case with inadequate cooling, at the stock 280-300W  power rating of an RTX2080Ti.
If you do, some sort of upgraded cooling solution is needed, as the stock fans don't keep up.
Even in an open test bench, with open cards running in slots of an ATX or extended ATX motherboard, doesn't provide enough cooling.
 
Cooling is probably the main difference in performance on core 22.
There are only 2 affordable ways to cool a system sufficiently for core 22,
  1. Either use pcie 16x extension cables, to space out the GPUs (the cheapest ones are limited to like 6 inch in length).
  2. Use something like a box fan, to push out hot air, away from the open bench
The other alternatives are more costly.
Water-cooling, or cooling via ac units, which the latter doubles the electric running cost.
 
Aside from that, for an RTX2080Ti there's currently only one project that gets these high numbers. 14**38. Project 14**39, also core 22, gets only 3.* M PPD.
The highest numbers are only of one project.
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/09 07:52:24 (permalink)
As I posted above ProDigit you will not just leave it alone and keep posting as I said above about you and Linux.
Their are Windows Users and Linux Users just leave it alone and start your Own Thread About How Great Linux is Over Windows.
You reminded me of some of our Unix/Linux Admins that hate any and all Windows anything.
I found it funning when they were given a choice to learn Windows and become a Windows Admin or find a new job.
But still thank you for all your information about Linux and Folding
Now that you have made it clear that you are a Non-Windows User it is time for you to compare the Top 10 Versions of Linux and then tell us which one is the best and fastest for Folding Core 22 and you should add Core 21 too.
The Top 10
Puppy Linux
Arch Linux
Sabayon/Gentoo
Mandriva
Debian
PCLinuxOS
openSUSE
Linux Mint
Fedora
Ubuntu
There are over 20 More Different Versions of Linux as well if you want to test them all and report back and why not add all the BOINC Projects as well.
I am sure you will convert at least a few Windows Users over to at lest one of the Versions on Linux being they have so many to choose from
PS my choice is Ubuntu for at lest BOINC as I do not Fold on my Ubuntu Rigs as I only have them to support One BOINC Project that only runs under Linux.
Do not get me wrong we have lots of Team Members that also Fold on Linux and Game on Windows but most Team Members Fold on their Windows Gaming Computer when they are not Gaming.
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/09 14:56:59 (permalink)
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As I posted above ProDigit you will not just leave it alone and keep posting as I said above about you and Linux.
Their are Windows Users and Linux Users just leave it alone and start your Own Thread About How Great Linux is Over Windows.
You reminded me of some of our Unix/Linux Admins that hate any and all Windows anything.
I found it funning when they were given a choice to learn Windows and become a Windows Admin or find a new job.
But still thank you for all your information about Linux and Folding
Now that you have made it clear that you are a Non-Windows User it is time for you to compare the Top 10 Versions of Linux and then tell us which one is the best and fastest for Folding Core 22 and you should add Core 21 too.
The Top 10
Puppy Linux
Arch Linux
Sabayon/Gentoo
Mandriva
Debian
PCLinuxOS
openSUSE
Linux Mint
Fedora
Ubuntu
There are over 20 More Different Versions of Linux as well if you want to test them all and report back and why not add all the BOINC Projects as well.
I am sure you will convert at least a few Windows Users over to at lest one of the Versions on Linux being they have so many to choose from
PS my choice is Ubuntu for at lest BOINC as I do not Fold on my Ubuntu Rigs as I only have them to support One BOINC Project that only runs under Linux.
Do not get me wrong we have lots of Team Members that also Fold on Linux and Game on Windows but most Team Members Fold on their Windows Gaming Computer when they are not Gaming.


What, you're now playing Bruce from FAH?
You're not an admin in here, so you can't bully people into submission, if you don't want to end up on anyone's bad side....
 
Just saying, you see me comparing windows to Linux, I just post facts, that others like to know.
This is a core 22 topic, I have every right to post about it.
It's getting real tiring, dealing with your kind!
We already have enough of you at the folding forum!
Don't make this one like over there!
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Re: Core 22 Stuff 2020/01/09 16:33:19 (permalink)
ProDigit
What, you're now playing Bruce from FAH?
You're not an admin in here, so you can't bully people into submission, if you don't want to end up on anyone's bad side....
 
Just saying, you see me comparing windows to Linux, I just post facts, that others like to know.
This is a core 22 topic, I have every right to post about it.
It's getting real tiring, dealing with your kind!
We already have enough of you at the folding forum!
Don't make this one like over there!

 It makes no real difference if you Fold running Linux or running Windows in the end, it is a choice for each Folder.
The Thread is all yours now, and thank you for all your support and knowledge about Folding and last of all best of luck for you and your Team Terracreation
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