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Cool GTX
Conversations over pricing and how it could impact customers --> Would make an interesting debate in it Own thread (hint, hint)
 
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OMG lol! come on guys. I muffin love u guys hahahaha. On topic; over pricing of GPU's has gotten me fed up with the industry to be honest. When a base model GTX 1060(entry level gaming card) costs as much as what a 2nd tier card(6800 GT, 7800 GT, 8800 GTS, GTX 260, GTX 470, GTX 570, GTX 670, GTX 770, GTX 970, GTX 107.........oh wait you get the point lol) I myself can't help but really be annoyed. On a personal level, I am always the guy who tries to get people into the PC gaming community. I recently built a friend a computer with some excess parts, and gifted it to him, and told him all he needs is to buy a video card. Right now he has my loaner GTX 670 which has really started showing its age.  With his excitement of Far Cry 5 coming out, he had planned to buy for his PC, however I assume things might change, as prices on everything are stupid high, if you can even find something. I have several other friends who have been wanting/needing to upgrade for sometime, BUT they simply can't justify spending so much extra money, when they know what a cards real value is.
 
I started getting into PC gaming early on, but didn't build my first machine until I was 14(14 years ago.....wow I feel old). I know times change, but it's not been until recently I've had a really sour taste for PC gaming. The other day I wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy, so I started looking back at all my GPU purchase invoices, and my findings were what I thought. I've always been someone who buy's the "second best" GPU when a new series is launched, or every other depending. The most I had ever paid for a 2nd teir GPU was $379.99, and that was a Nvidia branded GTX 970 from bestBuy(because the Titan cooler is far better quality then the ugly plastic crap coolers they deem so amazing from eVGA). Now days between overpricing of graphics cards, and every game coming out being early access (and buggy as hell), how is this good for the PC gaming community? So how is it affecting customers?
 
Well people like me highly suggest to refrain from buying GPU's and any game that says early access, as doing so simply tells these corporations "here take my money, overcharge me and under deliver, I don't care". Yes a lot of the overpricing is caused by shortages due to the cryptocraze, but regardless, for those of us who have been around for some time, it's a major insult. And to the new comers to PC Gaming? Well who knows as they likely won't find a GPU, and if they do, they likely can't/won't justify spending $600 on what should be a $350 dollar card.

jh4db536
The future is that nvidia owns all the cards and customers don't own physical cards. After nvidia is found guilty for their wrongdoings with the geforce partner program, they will then move to disrupt the competition with their new business model because the market has been conveniently conditioned for it.
 
Customers will pay a monthly/subscription fee to rent centralized GPU power much like miners already do with mining contracts (centralized asic/decentralized pooled gpu power**). Gamers will be able to play the hottest most demanding titles on laptops and old computers and forget about hardware altogether. Customers will reminiscence about how silly it was to pay $1000 each year to upgrade their computers so they could social media their FPS and benchmark ratings.
 
Amd? i dunno they better get with the times or they're gonna be the only ones selling physical cards for workstation/scientific/mining use. If not fully absorbed/integrated into their CPU dies/or intels.
 
discrete cards will be a nostalgic memory like voodoo 3dfx.
 
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**i'll digress about the state of mining. 99.9% of miners cannot get rich off mining mature coins...it's too difficult and no longer profitable. In order to get rich from mining, you need a lot of hashpower when the mining difficulty is low on a speculative coin. Mining contracts (renting tera/penta hashes for a period aimed at your wallet) fulfill this purpose and you dont even need to own a gpu anymore. most homebrews are actually gamers who are trying to mine enough to get their hardware cost back to MSRP.
 

I simply cannot see this happening. Very unrealistic outlook. It would be the ABSOLUTE death of PC gaming as we know it. What about consoles? I assume Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo will start to develop their own gpu's instaid of going to Nvidia or AMD? I'd hope you're wrong on this one, and I'll gladly eat my own words if it does happen lol. If Nvidia even remotely tried a stunt like that, their stocks would plummet, and AMD would dominate the market.

MasterMiner
I’ve got bad news. Pricing is only going to continue to go up. So much so even small time miners like myself gave up months ago. These chips (high end 14nm gpu) are being bought at the wholesale level by the thousands by governments and very large dark miners to power a wholesale restructuring of the world’s financial system. No conspiracy just fact.

Add to that huge and growing demand for AI for every industry and military application imaginable and you’ve got a serious crunch for years to come.

$3000 Volta will be the entry point for non-ECC compute cards. Multiply that x4 to get the ECC / Tesla version.

$1500 for the top of the line gamer / graphics variety (ie: 2080)

The situation is ugly

ps: I don’t see Nvidia renting cards or everyone turning to aws or cloud. But pc gaming will be a very, very expensive luxury.

Not a chance. I do not think Nvidia and AMD would be foolish enough to price their cards like that. Like I said in another post, gamers will not pay these kind of prices for cards. PC gaming has to be affordable or will die. Gamers will move on and get a console. Oh, have you guys been looking around the net at current stock and prices. GPU's are starting to be more available and prices are starting to fall. Give it a month and you will  have no problem getting the card you want at a much more affordable price. 

MasterMiner
I’ve got bad news. Pricing is only going to continue to go up. So much so even small time miners like myself gave up months ago. These chips (high end 14nm gpu) are being bought at the wholesale level by the thousands by governments and very large dark miners to power a wholesale restructuring of the world’s financial system. No conspiracy just fact.

Add to that huge and growing demand for AI for every industry and military application imaginable and you’ve got a serious crunch for years to come.

$3000 Volta will be the entry point for non-ECC compute cards. Multiply that x4 to get the ECC / Tesla version.

$1500 for the top of the line gamer / graphics variety (ie: 2080)

The situation is ugly

ps: I don’t see Nvidia renting cards or everyone turning to aws or cloud. But pc gaming will be a very, very expensive luxury.

Not a chance in the world. You cannot hide the production. It would make zero sense to use complicated GPU's for this purpose. Production is planned out quarters in advanced. You cannot just invent capacity out of thin air. Conspiracy debunked by simple logic.

MasterMiner
I hope I’m wrong, but prices are set by market forces. I don’t see supply catching up with demand from all sources anytime soon.

As you said, production cannot be turned around on a dime.

For the most part that's exactly right, plus the usual scalpers on steroids.  Better economy, unexpected demand by miners, memory shortages because every device now is garbage unless it's loaded with 64GB...millions upon millions of these devices.   And....
A half-hour power outage at Samsung’s fab near Pyeongtaek, South Korea, disrupted production and damaged tens of thousands of processed wafers. Media reports claim that the outage destroyed as much as 3.5% of the global NAND supply for March, which may have an effect on flash memory pricing in the coming weeks.
 
https://www.anandtech.com...obal-nand-flash-output

Maybe I should have pointed out this thread was intended for the current prices EVGA is charging for the 10 series cards. People seem to be not too pleased with these MSRP price hikes in the 10 series from the EVGA store. People were coming here to avoid the high prices at places like Newegg and get close to the actual MSRP and have seen a steady rise in the MSRP price.

Only place to get msrp price is from the nvidia store. If you're buying a custom card from evga, asus, msi, gigabyte, etc. they can set the prices to whatever they wish.

All of them say notify me because they're out of stock. There are no founder edition cards listed on newegg. 

I see plenty of notify me buttons...
 

 

Will the release of Nvidia's next generation of graphics cards in Q3 change anything?

Sajin
I see plenty of notify me buttons...
 

 

Not seeing notify here anymore myself, just straight up "Out of stock" with no button, though I was before. Maybe need to refresh your cache if you're seeing different

dlbsyst

dugoth

Sajin
I see plenty of notify me buttons...
 

 

Not seeing notify here anymore myself, just straight up "Out of stock" with no button, though I was before. Maybe need to refresh your cache if you're seeing different

Yea, I'm only seeing out of stock myself. I tried all of the browsers too.

Sign of imminent release of new GPU's? fingers crossed.

prometheus0102

dlbsyst

dugoth

Sajin
I see plenty of notify me buttons...
 

 

Not seeing notify here anymore myself, just straight up "Out of stock" with no button, though I was before. Maybe need to refresh your cache if you're seeing different

Yea, I'm only seeing out of stock myself. I tried all of the browsers too.

Sign of imminent release of new GPU's? fingers crossed.

Yea, that's what I was thinking.lol