gsrcrxsi
I don't care if contracts do or don't exist. I'm just saying that everyone is using this as the reason for low supply to the Notification and Step Up queues, and speaking in absolute terms as if they know for certainty. You don't know, you can't know, so stop pretending.

gsrcrxsi
I don't care if contracts do or don't exist. I'm just saying that everyone is using this as the reason for low supply to the Notification and Step Up queues, and speaking in absolute terms as if they know for certainty. You don't know, you can't know, so stop pretending.

wmmills

gsrcrxsi
I don't care if contracts do or don't exist. I'm just saying that everyone is using this as the reason for low supply to the Notification and Step Up queues, and speaking in absolute terms as if they know for certainty. You don't know, you can't know, so stop pretending.

I highly doubt anyone around here is saying anything like that with absolutes, although your personal filter might be picking up as that out of frustration. Over the years some of us old boomers have picked up pieces of info from here and there from articles, videos, employees, ex employees etc.... and they are trying to give you, or whoever, a little of that info to help you understand some of the inner workings. For instance .... its common knowledge that nvidia doesnt just sell the top tier cards when a new series releases to there AIB partners, they also make them take a load of the prior series lower end cards too to relieve inventory, which is the reason that XFX got spanked and were forbidden by nvidia for getting any cards anymore period. They wouldnt take the large load of older low end cards. Thats why EVGA has low end old cards and not any new top tier cards. Interesting right?! Dont get upset about it brotha, its not gonna help ya. Just hear it, acknowledge it and let it go cause it will work itself out eventually. Think of this.... as the loads get dropped and peoples orders are filled, every drop after that gets closer to normal retail sales again cause thats a hundred, or two hundred..... whatever is, that are eliminated with every load.

exlink

It just bugs me when people start spouting nonsense that they have no idea about. 

Welcome to the internet.

gsrcrxsi

wmmills

gsrcrxsi
I don't care if contracts do or don't exist. I'm just saying that everyone is using this as the reason for low supply to the Notification and Step Up queues, and speaking in absolute terms as if they know for certainty. You don't know, you can't know, so stop pretending.

I highly doubt anyone around here is saying anything like that with absolutes, although your personal filter might be picking up as that out of frustration. Over the years some of us old boomers have picked up pieces of info from here and there from articles, videos, employees, ex employees etc.... and they are trying to give you, or whoever, a little of that info to help you understand some of the inner workings. For instance .... its common knowledge that nvidia doesnt just sell the top tier cards when a new series releases to there AIB partners, they also make them take a load of the prior series lower end cards too to relieve inventory, which is the reason that XFX got spanked and were forbidden by nvidia for getting any cards anymore period. They wouldnt take the large load of older low end cards. Thats why EVGA has low end old cards and not any new top tier cards. Interesting right?! Dont get upset about it brotha, its not gonna help ya. Just hear it, acknowledge it and let it go cause it will work itself out eventually. Think of this.... as the loads get dropped and peoples orders are filled, every drop after that gets closer to normal retail sales again cause thats a hundred, or two hundred..... whatever is, that are eliminated with every load.

go through the last few weeks of posts. several people have started parroting this "contractual agreements" line. they're all over the place.
 
I have little frustration with getting cards as I've been able to get a 3070 and 3060 from the Notification queues by being fast on the first day (which seems to be the most efficient method in terms of personal effort required). It just bugs me when people start spouting nonsense that they have no idea about. 

gsrcrxsi

transdogmifier
You do know, of course, that when eVGA sends cards to e-tailers, they're actually sold to the e-tailers and therefore eVGA is CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE THEM.

They don't just willy nilly send cards to Amazon, Newegg or other places...
 
They'd probably already SOLD them to the e-tailers via legal agreements prior to the release of the cards.
 
Don't like it? Don't care.
 
I'll say whatever I want.
 

since you KNOW these contracts exist, then you must be privvy to the specifics yeah? fill us in on the details on exactly how many units are allocated to each retailer. i'll wait.

SyntaxTurtle

gsrcrxsi
so it's illogical to make such a claim. you can't now this.

That makes no sense.  We know that EVGA is in a business where these agreements are common.  We have no reason to assume that EVGA operates significantly differently than other similar companies where these agreements are common.  People are familiar with the broad strokes of what these agreements entail and, again, there's no reason to believe that EVGA operates outside these common parameters.  Therefore, working under the assumption that EVGA is bound to these agreements and that they are contributing to, say, less stock in the queue than potentially available is, in fact, the most logical way to approach it.   Saying "Well, since you can't prove every last detail to my stated satisfaction, you're not allowed to include those agreements in your assumptions" is far more illogical and, frankly, just silly nonsense.
 
If someone owns a cat, I'm going to assume that they have a bag of cat litter somewhere in their home.  Because this is how owning a cat usually works.  I don't need to have a spy in their home or see receipts from Petsmart or snoop around their utility room before I can start assuming that they own cat litter because the overwhelming probability is that they own some.  Now maybe I'm wrong and they trained their cat to poop in the toilet or only go outside but that's a distinct enough minority that it's a waste of time and effort to start my assumptions around "I have no idea if they own cat litter because I've never personally seen it".  EVGA is a cat owner.  Agreements with retail outlets is cat litter.  They almost certainly have some.

gsrcrxsi
i know how it works. I also used to work for a major US retailer.
 
I'm not saying that the contracts don't exist. I'm saying that not a single person knows the content or stipulations, so they cant possibly know that these contracts are, or to what extent are, impacting other things like Notification or Step-Up queues. so it's illogical to make such a claim. you can't now this.
 
I know you're just trying to justify your own actions since you're one of the people who I've observed regurgitating such info.

gsrcrxsi
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3229786

the_Scarlet_one

gsrcrxsi
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3229786

Yes, that was the other thread I mentioned the word contract in.  This is thread 1, and the other thread is thread 2.  In that thread, the user was insinuating that cards were sold to one person, when it was just the stock inside the microcenter.  Notice all of the other brands in the stack?  So, please expand beyond what I already told you I mentioned.
 
To add to the post above, I was at MicroCenter just outside of Philadelphia when that thread was started, and the employees at the microcenter said they ordered a lot more cards than what showed up. Maybe you could contact them yourself and they will divulge the information.

the_Scarlet_one

gsrcrxsi
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3229786

Yes, that was the other thread I mentioned the word contract in.  This is thread 1, and the other thread is thread 2.  In that thread, the user was insinuating that cards were sold to one person, when it was just the stock inside the microcenter.  Notice all of the other brands in the stack?  So, please expand beyond what I already told you I mentioned.
 
To add to the post above, I was at MicroCenter just outside of Philadelphia when that thread was started, and the employees at the microcenter said they ordered a lot more cards than what showed up. Maybe you could contact them yourself and they will divulge the information.