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2017/09/04 23:25:50 (permalink)
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Fine looking at getting my CC. Live in Central Oregon, but visit family in Idaho, Utah and Arkansas.   Went to my first gun show ever, last Saturday and met this guy, prob looking at getting CC's for Oregon, Utah but would i need CC's for Idaho and Arkansas?
http://www.firearmsinstructor.us/
Diff looking in taking his classes and training.   And found a pistol that fit me pretty well and not top heavy, looking at the S&W M&P 40C COMPACT 
https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/mp-40c-compact-size-thumb-safety
https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-66-combat-magnum
 
I really wanted a .357 MAG but just too heavy for my CC, looking at the .40 cal as a good medium, 9mm is too damn small, and wanting good stopping and a few more rounds than the  revolver, this MP .40cal holds 10 rounds in the mag, and carry a 2nd loaded mag, depending on local CC laws.  Feedback on this S&W MP .40cal "fits my hand perfect, great balance to my liking, and going with the .40 cal?
 
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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/05 00:17:01 (permalink)
    Since you are visiting family I would recommend contacting the local law enforcement website to that community and getting the exact local laws. From what I have read online it seems you would have the CC honored in both states but keep in mind you have to obey local CC laws. Since you are still picking what gun you what I would check the local laws in case the have any rules for what size of weapon can be a CC.
     
    Also pay attention to any places restricted. You could catch a bus or go to a public park and get into big trouble depending on local laws.
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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/05 01:07:34 (permalink)
    I would check out what you need to do when traveling through states that don't honor your home state carry permit.
     
    9mm too small of a round?
    Navy Seals, FBI and Police departments across the US carry 9mm pistols
     
    9mm gives you:
    increased capacity
    less recoil and easier to shoot compared to .40
    cheaper to practice with and easier to find ammo for
     
    http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/7-reasons-cops-choose-9mm-40/
     
    Nothing wrong with owning more than one pistol or different calibers.
     

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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/05 08:00:55 (permalink)
    S&W M&P in pretty much all it's variations is a great gun for the price. I was looking at one of the full size versions just 2 days ago. I am a Sig guy, but these S&W are well built.

    As for caliber? 9mm is really a good round for CC. Nothing wrong with .40, nice powerful round. However in a compact, there will be a good deal of recoil / muzzle lift and follow up shots won't be coming as fast or accurate as a 9mm. Only time I can carry is prospecting in Grizzly country and then it is a .44 Magnum Ruger revolver.....nothing concealed about that lol.

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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/05 08:10:52 (permalink)
    Hopefully you can find a local range and rent the pistol; after 200 rounds you'll know if it is the one you want

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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/05 08:39:06 (permalink)
    Don't underestimate modern 9mm.
     
    The 9mm of the 80's and 90's was fairly underwhelming but the modern ammo is much more impressive.

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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/05 10:00:12 (permalink)
    Dukman
    Don't underestimate modern 9mm.
     
    The 9mm of the 80's and 90's was fairly underwhelming but the modern ammo is much more impressive.


    Agree 100%. The new crop of 124 Grain JHP LE in 9mm is pretty good stuff for SD.

    Check out reviews of Speer's Gold Dot +P 124-grain.

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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/05 10:01:24 (permalink)
    As those above me said, 9mm is fine as long as you're using personal defense ammo. Most of the problems people report is when trying to use ball ammo/solid-nose for PD, which will have almost no expansion if it hits a soft target like a person. Using a good hollow-point or self-defense ammo alleviates most of these concerns, although .40 does give slightly more expansion. 
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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/05 11:58:33 (permalink)
    CC is such a personal pref. Me personally, I count my rounds, shoot once and done. Looking at Winchester 40 S&W 180 Grain Full Metal Jacket rounds and dont see the need for hollowpoints for CC or close quarters and getting use to said type of rounds.  
     
    Anyone got the S&W MP's?
    post edited by knightsilver - 2017/09/05 12:00:16


     
     
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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/05 16:35:57 (permalink)
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    Map
    https://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html
     
    Fine looking at getting my CC. Live in Central Oregon, but visit family in Idaho, Utah and Arkansas.   Went to my first gun show ever, last Saturday and met this guy, prob looking at getting CC's for Oregon, Utah but would i need CC's for Idaho and Arkansas?
    http://www.firearmsinstructor.us/
    Diff looking in taking his classes and training.   And found a pistol that fit me pretty well and not top heavy, looking at the S&W M&P 40C COMPACT 
    https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/mp-40c-compact-size-thumb-safety
    https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-66-combat-magnum
     
    I really wanted a .357 MAG but just too heavy for my CC, looking at the .40 cal as a good medium, 9mm is too damn small, and wanting good stopping and a few more rounds than the  revolver, this MP .40cal holds 10 rounds in the mag, and carry a 2nd loaded mag, depending on local CC laws.  Feedback on this S&W MP .40cal "fits my hand perfect, great balance to my liking, and going with the .40 cal?
     
    Thx,
    Knight'




     
    I have both the full size and the compact in the M&P series. I chose the .40 cal. for both. I like the adjustable grip on them to give me the sweet spot in the hand.
     
    One thing that I do not like about the compact is that it jams when using Federal range ammo. My full size on the other hand chews through it like candy. I use Winchester 180 gr. hollow point home defense for my carry. No problems with that ammo.
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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/05 17:17:37 (permalink)
    I like the comfort and overall feel of the S&W M&P.  Very comfy gun.   Not a fan of that trigger.
     

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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/06 00:51:41 (permalink)
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    I would check out what you need to do when traveling through states that don't honor your home state carry permit.
     
    9mm too small of a round?
    Navy Seals, FBI and Police departments across the US carry 9mm pistols
     
    9mm gives you:
    increased capacity
    less recoil and easier to shoot compared to .40
    cheaper to practice with and easier to find ammo for
     
    http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/7-reasons-cops-choose-9mm-40/
     
    Nothing wrong with owning more than one pistol or different calibers.
     




    Very true if you are traveling on the roads keep in mind a lot of states wouldn't honor the CC permit and you could get in big trouble best to make sure you don't run into an issue before a trip then have the visit ruined by police.
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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/07 11:03:16 (permalink)
    Hickok45 running the M&P 40C through a review.


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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/07 22:15:15 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    Hopefully you can find a local range and rent the pistol; after 200 rounds you'll know if it is the one you want




    This.
     
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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/09 09:20:32 (permalink)
    If you're on Facebook, a good group to join would be P&S Primary and Secondary.
    The group is meant for people who are serious, as well as professionals in the industry.
    The people here do not BS around and will back up everything they say with facts.
    Very well known group in the professional circle.

    I've looked around a lot of their threads and I can tell you right now. 9mm is not "too small", that is a myth. 
    What is more important than bullet size is shot placement. I can assure you right now, if you hit someone twice in the chest and once in the face, they're not going to be coming at you anymore.

    Go for a simple reliable gun, there's really no need to be spending $1200 on a custom pistol build before you know what you need. I'd just go with a Glock 19, and upgrade things later as you see fit. What's usually suggested are Trijicon night sights and an upgraded trigger, like a CMC or something.

    Also don't get M&P, they have high failure rates, you want the most reliable possible gun if you're carrying it every day for defense.

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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/09 14:40:41 (permalink)
    Wooohah
    9mm is not "too small", that is a myth. 
    What is more important than bullet size is shot placement.


    This is absolutely true. However the OP has stated he wants the .40 so no point continuing on.


    Wooohah
    I'd just go with a Glock 19......


    Ugly, ugly, stupid feeling trigger, and ugly.

    Guns are personal preference. Some think the Glock looks great and has a great trigger, and some don't. Yes, they are reliable.

    Wooohah
    Also don't get M&P, they have high failure rates, you want the most reliable possible gun if you're carrying it every day for defense.


    High failure rates? Specifics?

    I know quite a few people with the M&P, both the original and 2.0. All seem really happy with them except maybe for the gritty trigger.

    I've put a few hundred rounds of 9mm and .40 through 3 different M&P's with not a single jam or any sort of excitement besides putting rounds down range. I wouldn't own one as I prefer Sig, but they are not a bad gun at all. The 40C is a great concealed gun.....in my opinion of course. The next guy may rather a .50AE Desert Eagle with 10" barrel strapped to his body.......all personal preference.

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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/09 17:22:21 (permalink)
    I love my Beretta PX4 compact for concealed carry, it's available in .40 with a 12 rd. mag. Mine is a 9mm 15 rd. My XDs conceals a little better and is more comfortable to carry but low round count and I am not nearly as accurate with it as with my PX4c.

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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/09 19:59:33 (permalink)
    of the 4 i have, original glock 17, Glock 21, Beretta 92F (yes its the shiny nickel plated miami vice one  ) and sig sauer P229 40 s&w, i prefer to carry my sig, it has a nice balance of stopping power and control.

                                   
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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/11 00:15:27 (permalink)
     I thought your were going to buy one of those .357mag dessert eagles Knight which you had in one of your threads a couple months back. Changed your mind or something?
     
     
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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/11 11:48:34 (permalink)
    Life happens, things change, and so does ur budget....
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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/12 18:39:36 (permalink)
    If you want to carry .357 mag wheel gun have you checked out Chiappa Rhino? Pretty cool revolver for conceal carry that mitigates recoil very well due to the design. All revolvers for conceal carry are antiquated though. There are so many great conceal carry handguns available today. My advice is get something that you like and don't fall for the hype of after market doodads to make it something you'll like. You don't have to compromise any longer when it comes to that stuff.
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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/13 20:21:46 (permalink)
    Trolling?


     
     
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    Re: Concealed Carry 2017/09/14 10:31:39 (permalink)

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