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Hi guys,
I'm basically looking for advice or others who have the same card & what clock offsets you're running, and any other improvements y'all can suggestion. I "downgraded" to this thing from a 2 Titan Xp setup (selling them while they're worth beaucoup dinero used still), and I'm already really impressed.
In about 1 1/2 hrs of GTA V gameplay last night, I only saw GPU temp get up to 43C (!!!!!!!!), temps are even lower in most benchmark runs due to less time being fully loaded, and I'm pretty much flatlined at either 1987MHz or 1974MHz all the time, depending on what kind of load I'm running. The only thing I've done is set the Power Target slider to 117%, I haven't messed with the voltage slider, or offsets at all yet in Precision.
Is there a baseline of what "just works" on these cards in terms of offsets, or do I pretty much have to test & tune it from scratch because of the low temps?
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/12 12:25:48
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or do I pretty much have to test & tune it from scratch
Yep.
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/12 18:37:09
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Hi guys,
I'm basically looking for advice or others who have the same card & what clock offsets you're running, and any other improvements y'all can suggestion. I "downgraded" to this thing from a 2 Titan Xp setup (selling them while they're worth beaucoup dinero used still), and I'm already really impressed.
In about 1 1/2 hrs of GTA V gameplay last night, I only saw GPU temp get up to 43C (!!!!!!!!), temps are even lower in most benchmark runs due to less time being fully loaded, and I'm pretty much flatlined at either 1987MHz or 1974MHz all the time, depending on what kind of load I'm running. The only thing I've done is set the Power Target slider to 117%, I haven't messed with the voltage slider, or offsets at all yet in Precision.
Is there a baseline of what "just works" on these cards in terms of offsets, or do I pretty much have to test & tune it from scratch because of the low temps?
Update from Windows 7?
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/12 19:06:41
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Dabadger84
Hi guys,
I'm basically looking for advice or others who have the same card & what clock offsets you're running, and any other improvements y'all can suggestion. I "downgraded" to this thing from a 2 Titan Xp setup (selling them while they're worth beaucoup dinero used still), and I'm already really impressed.
In about 1 1/2 hrs of GTA V gameplay last night, I only saw GPU temp get up to 43C (!!!!!!!!), temps are even lower in most benchmark runs due to less time being fully loaded, and I'm pretty much flatlined at either 1987MHz or 1974MHz all the time, depending on what kind of load I'm running. The only thing I've done is set the Power Target slider to 117%, I haven't messed with the voltage slider, or offsets at all yet in Precision.
Is there a baseline of what "just works" on these cards in terms of offsets, or do I pretty much have to test & tune it from scratch because of the low temps?
Update from Windows 7?
Why on Earth would I update to Garbage 10 until I absolutely have to? Can't stand it, I'll be riding Windows 7 until I build a whole new system or its no longer getting security updates.
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/12 19:16:02
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Hi guys,
I'm basically looking for advice or others who have the same card & what clock offsets you're running, and any other improvements y'all can suggestion. I "downgraded" to this thing from a 2 Titan Xp setup (selling them while they're worth beaucoup dinero used still), and I'm already really impressed.
In about 1 1/2 hrs of GTA V gameplay last night, I only saw GPU temp get up to 43C (!!!!!!!!), temps are even lower in most benchmark runs due to less time being fully loaded, and I'm pretty much flatlined at either 1987MHz or 1974MHz all the time, depending on what kind of load I'm running. The only thing I've done is set the Power Target slider to 117%, I haven't messed with the voltage slider, or offsets at all yet in Precision.
Is there a baseline of what "just works" on these cards in terms of offsets, or do I pretty much have to test & tune it from scratch because of the low temps?
Update from Windows 7?
Why on Earth would I update to Garbage 10 until I absolutely have to? Can't stand it, I'll be riding Windows 7 until I build a whole new system or its no longer getting security updates.
Because it's a faster more advanced OS?
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/12 19:17:03
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What does that have to do with the topic at hand... Lol
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/13 00:29:33
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What does that have to do with the topic at hand... Lol
Your topic included 'other improvements'. Have you tried it recently? I get where you're at I think, I still use Start10 just because I prefer the Win7 style.
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/13 15:20:40
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Dabadger84
What does that have to do with the topic at hand... Lol
Your topic included 'other improvements'. Have you tried it recently? I get where you're at I think, I still use Start10 just because I prefer the Win7 style.
I really meant that more of directly to do with the card's performance. I am planning to build a new system, very likely Threadripper 2, in Q4 of this year when the new stuff hits, and that system I plan to have dual boot windows 7 and windows 10 so I can get used to it. I've only ever used it on other people's systems. I've already swapped the stock radiator fan for a Corsair SP120 & plugged it in to my motherboard for more airflow through the radiator, haven't had a chance to test it out much since doing that last night ghoight. Does the OC switch do anything else besides increasing the available power limit from 117 to 127? Also seems to have increased the pump speed perhaps? I noticed there's more pump noise with it on OC vs normal. Not much, but notable.
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/14 02:48:57
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Hi guys,
I'm basically looking for advice or others who have the same card & what clock offsets you're running, and any other improvements y'all can suggestion. I "downgraded" to this thing from a 2 Titan Xp setup (selling them while they're worth beaucoup dinero used still), and I'm already really impressed.
In about 1 1/2 hrs of GTA V gameplay last night, I only saw GPU temp get up to 43C (!!!!!!!!), temps are even lower in most benchmark runs due to less time being fully loaded, and I'm pretty much flatlined at either 1987MHz or 1974MHz all the time, depending on what kind of load I'm running. The only thing I've done is set the Power Target slider to 117%, I haven't messed with the voltage slider, or offsets at all yet in Precision.
Is there a baseline of what "just works" on these cards in terms of offsets, or do I pretty much have to test & tune it from scratch because of the low temps?
I set 60% voltage in XOC and it maintains 2000 Mhz w/o problems. You can use GPU-Z to and look into the Sensors tab at PerfCap reason. Mine didn't wanted to go towards 2000 Mhz w/o the added voltage which the card can handle without problem.
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/15 18:16:37
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Dabadger84
Hi guys,
I'm basically looking for advice or others who have the same card & what clock offsets you're running, and any other improvements y'all can suggestion. I "downgraded" to this thing from a 2 Titan Xp setup (selling them while they're worth beaucoup dinero used still), and I'm already really impressed.
In about 1 1/2 hrs of GTA V gameplay last night, I only saw GPU temp get up to 43C (!!!!!!!!), temps are even lower in most benchmark runs due to less time being fully loaded, and I'm pretty much flatlined at either 1987MHz or 1974MHz all the time, depending on what kind of load I'm running. The only thing I've done is set the Power Target slider to 117%, I haven't messed with the voltage slider, or offsets at all yet in Precision.
Is there a baseline of what "just works" on these cards in terms of offsets, or do I pretty much have to test & tune it from scratch because of the low temps?
Update from Windows 7?
Why on Earth would I update to Garbage 10 until I absolutely have to? Can't stand it, I'll be riding Windows 7 until I build a whole new system or its no longer getting security updates.
because it's better in literally every way possible??? unless you have some older games or hardware that need an older OS.
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/16 00:05:44
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Better to you perhaps. The "normal" interface for 10 is garbage.
I've been playing with voltage curve etc, don't know if I'm quite doing it correctly, but it seems to me that 2050MHz (2063MHz at times but it doesn't stay there once the card warms up) is about all I'm gonna get until I figure out what I'm doing wrong, or I just got a lesser-than-average card maybe. Still runs cool even at that speed, but the temp increase of 5-10C depending on the load hardly seems worth the performance increase I'm getting going from the stock boost of 1987/1974/1961MHz to 2050MHz.
I'll probably go through the tutorials again & start from scratch in a few days, but for now, I'm just enjoy a nice, cool running, "quiet" (by my standards, it does have 3 180mm intake fans on the side afterall) computer again.
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/17 15:18:42
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on an ftw3 that's good. mine isn't stable past 2025MHz. from what i hear most people are getting between 1950 and 2000 MHz on them. it also depends on what you are testing stability with, cards will be stable super high with benchmarks or stress tests, but with real world applications that's not gonna work, I can get 2075 MHz in a stress test or benchmark easily, but it will not go above 2025 in fallout 4 or vermintide 2, overwatch will not handle any overclock and sometimes crashes even at stock boosts (cus the game doesn't use the hardware as well as it should, game's fault not EVGA's).
as for windows 10, i wasn't talking about the interface, which is changeable, but rather the performance and functionality. if you like the interface of 7, you can change 10 to act the same way fairly easily c:
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/17 15:29:33
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on an ftw3 that's good. mine isn't stable past 2025MHz. from what i hear most people are getting between 1950 and 2000 MHz on them. it also depends on what you are testing stability with, cards will be stable super high with benchmarks or stress tests, but with real world applications that's not gonna work, I can get 2075 MHz in a stress test or benchmark easily, but it will not go above 2025 in fallout 4 or vermintide 2, overwatch will not handle any overclock and sometimes crashes even at stock boosts (cus the game doesn't use the hardware as well as it should, game's fault not EVGA's).
as for windows 10, i wasn't talking about the interface, which is changeable, but rather the performance and functionality. if you like the interface of 7, you can change 10 to act the same way fairly easily c:
That's good to hear. The 2050MHz settings I've tested so far passes the benchmark suite I threw at it (heaven, valley, 3dmark FireStrike regular and extreme) along with 2hra of GTA V with no issues. Guess I should be happy with that lol
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/17 21:41:48
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Because it's a faster more advanced OS?
The only thing it's advanced at VS Win 7 is the crap load of telemetry data (and you can't turn it off) it sends back to MS! At least with Win 7 you can control it much better than Win 10. Oh yeah, It's so advanced that it keeps updating and you can't do anything for the next 2 hours! It's so advanced it now takes 3 steps to shut down your PC versus 2 steps using a mouse! It's so advanced that it keeps updating bloatware in the background! Lol! I digress... EDIT: I don't need a touch screen interface for my PC as it is slower than using a mouse or a keyboard shortcut for my commands! My Win 7 Pro boots into windows in less than 20 seconds on an SSD and shuts down in less than 10 seconds. Pulling up applications is fast as heck (like 1-2 seconds) as well so saying that Win 10 is faster is something you won't see or feel specially if you have a tuned Win 7. I have to agree with DaBadger84 that Win 10 is a steaming pile of garbage! Now onto improving your card performance... it seems you've gone on to switch from master to slave bios so that's good. I advise on setting voltages if you want to find the right balance between performance and having a quiet system. Remember that OCing your memory gets you more FPS and higher benchmarks versus trying to push your core clocks. My card can run at 2100, but it only gets about 1-2 fps more compared to 2050. I now set my card to run around 2050 ghz and at +500 on my memory and I got 7-10 fps more.
post edited by mark_thaddeus - 2018/05/17 21:58:13
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/17 22:12:32
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Because it's a faster more advanced OS?
Oh yeah, It's so advanced that it keeps updating and you can't do anything for the next 2 hours! It's so advanced it now takes 3 steps to shut down your PC versus 2 steps using a mouse! It's so advanced that it keeps updating bloatware in the background!
EDIT: I don't need a touch screen interface for my PC as it is slower than using a mouse or a keyboard shortcut for my commands! My Win 7 Pro boots into windows in less than 20 seconds on an SSD and shuts down in less than 10 seconds. Pulling up applications is fast as heck (like 1-2 seconds) as well so saying that Win 10 is faster is something you won't see or feel specially if you have a tuned Win 7.
I've never had an update take longer than a few minutes, and there is no bloatware on my pc. as for startup and shutdown, my case button works just fine, startup clocks in at 10 seconds on average, never measured shutdown because i just hit the button and leave. I have had issues with app and hardware compatibility in 7, it's just old. you can set up 10 to do literally anything 7 can do, but there is much that 7 can't that 10 can. It's just not as good of an OS by all measures. That's not to say 7 is bad, but it's just not the best available windows version, 10 is.
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/17 22:17:34
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I've never had an update take longer than a few minutes, and there is no bloatware on my pc. as for startup and shutdown, my case button works just fine, startup clocks in at 10 seconds on average, never measured shutdown because i just hit the button and leave.
I have had issues with app and hardware compatibility in 7, it's just old. you can set up 10 to do literally anything 7 can do, but there is much that 7 can't that 10 can. It's just not as good of an OS by all measures. That's not to say 7 is bad, but it's just not the best available windows version, 10 is.
What can Win 10 do that Win 7 can't? I edit videos, work on photos, do programming work, and play games on Win 7 with no issues. As for pressing the case button, so you're just putting it in sleep mode and then waking up from it. I'm talking about cold boot. In any case, being an old OS doesn't mean it can't do something, it's MS just killing support so they can sell crap ware. If you don't care about your data being sent to MS, then enjoy Win 10! I will stick with Win 7 and find another OS down the line. I'm not going MS if I can help it with the way things are going with them.
post edited by mark_thaddeus - 2018/05/17 22:21:52
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/18 09:56:25
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directx 12, connectivity between platforms (phone, xbox), better compatibility with newer hardware and software, virtual desktops.. you can easily disable reporting to MS on windows 10 as well.
also, no, my power button is set to shutdown completely, the fast startup option is disabled so i get a fresh boot every time. That's likely due more to my setup than the os, but I mentioned it because it's not any slower than 7 for shutdown and startup.
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/18 14:55:06
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So according to more reading I've done and a few other users, turns out 2050MHz on the stock bios and voltage limitations is actually pretty good for a 1080 Ti. I'm still going to try for more, but seems like I actually got a good card for once.
I'm not going to mess with XOC bios since I only plan on keeping this card til next gen FTW3 Hybrids come out.
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/18 18:17:03
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So according to more reading I've done and a few other users, turns out 2050MHz on the stock bios and voltage limitations is actually pretty good for a 1080 Ti. I'm still going to try for more, but seems like I actually got a good card for once.
I'm not going to mess with XOC bios since I only plan on keeping this card til next gen FTW3 Hybrids come out.
Yes, 2050 on stock settings is good. Just like my card (FTW3 converted using Hybrid Kit) it can push 2075 Mhz +500 Memory on stock and it passes both gaming (The Division, OUBG, Witcher 3, Crysis 3, Vermentide 2, etc.) and benchmarking. Try to OC your memory more than your core clock, you'll get more fps as well as higher benchmark scores by doing this versus pushing your ore clock as the difference for 2050 and 2100 is literally 1-2 fps and like 20-50 points in Firestrike. I also found that pushing your core clock tends to push your temps higher as well.
post edited by mark_thaddeus - 2018/05/18 19:01:43
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/18 18:56:44
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directx 12, connectivity between platforms (phone, xbox), better compatibility with newer hardware and software, virtual desktops.. you can easily disable reporting to MS on windows 10 as well.
also, no, my power button is set to shutdown completely, the fast startup option is disabled so i get a fresh boot every time. That's likely due more to my setup than the os, but I mentioned it because it's not any slower than 7 for shutdown and startup.
DirectX 12 is useless for NVidia cards as it doesn't show a jump in performance like AMD. It also launched in 2014 (2015 with Win 10) and it's been 4 years now and games still have DX11 so not a big deal. I'll only move to another OS when DX11 is dead like DX9. AMD fanboys have been saying that DX11 is dead for years now, yet all games released still have DX11 and even the upcoming ones still have it and will use it. I connect my phone to my win 7 and even control it by receiving and replying to messages, etc. and even use the phone as desktop in Win 7 with all my phones (S8+, Note 5, S4, LG V20, Pixel 2 XL), so nothing new there, it's been an option for ages and it's pretty easy and straightforward to do. You can even stream games from my desktop to my phone by simply using an app, its not limited to Win 10 (Check out Steam Link App). Better connectivity with newer hardware is the fault of Intel not providing support for the newest chips being unable to use Win 7. Ryzen chips still support Win 7. So not worried as good old AMD with their outstanding Ryzen chips still run Win 7. My next build will definitely be a Ryzen 2 (not the plus you see just released) chip with the best GPU that can beat out my 1080Ti FTW Hybrid (Don't care if it's red or green). I also only have a Nintendo Switch to go with my gaming rig as I don't need the Xbox nor the PS4 (PC Master race for life - LOL!), so not a big loss there. Virtual desktops have also been available for Win 7 for the longest time, you can just use Virtual Machine from MS themselves. I've also used Oracle VM Virtual Box many times in Win 7, so nothing new again. It's good that you disabled fast shutdown as it disables wake on lan. It also truly allows to reset your CPU up-time counter. Bottom line, anyone using an SSD can get to the desktop and start an application and run it within 15-20 seconds of cold boot whether it's win 7 or win 10. As for turning off telemetry, you never really turn it off (you only set it to basic which still has telemetry), also you can only set it to the lowest settings if you use Win 10 Ultimate or Education and you have to use a group policy to do that. If you use the other versions of Win 10 it's never really off. If you use 3rd party software to block Microsoft servers IP addresses and URLs to disable telemetry it may cause serious problems as mentioned in this article --> https://www.askvg.com/fix...bsites-in-windows-10/. Here's the link showing that setting your security to zero "0" in Win 10 (core/home) is basically setting it to basic. Scroll down to "Truth Behind This Group Policy or Registry Trick" in the article and you'll see that Microsoft has mentioned clearly in the description of "Allow Telemetry" option in Group Policy Editor that setting the option to "0 - Security" on Windows 10 Home or Pro editions is equivalent to settings it to "1 - Basic" https://www.askvg.com/tru...n-trick-in-windows-10/ Hey like the rest said, if you like Win 10 it's all on you! We agree to disagree then! Cheers!
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/18 21:36:26
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So according to more reading I've done and a few other users, turns out 2050MHz on the stock bios and voltage limitations is actually pretty good for a 1080 Ti. I'm still going to try for more, but seems like I actually got a good card for once.
I'm not going to mess with XOC bios since I only plan on keeping this card til next gen FTW3 Hybrids come out.
oh ****, totally didn't see you had the hybrid kit. those are totally fine numbers for that card. I was over here thinking you were complaining about getting that high of numbers on a regular ftw3, and I was like, "that blows mine out of the water, I must have a bad one" XD. I'm happy with anything over 2GHz, so i'd be overjoyed with your numbers. A few more tens of MHz isn't really going to do anything on the core, might as well do as suggested and see how high memory goes, but even that isn't going to do a lot in many games. you should be very happy with your card c:
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/19 02:34:54
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directx 12, connectivity between platforms (phone, xbox), better compatibility with newer hardware and software, virtual desktops.. you can easily disable reporting to MS on windows 10 as well.
also, no, my power button is set to shutdown completely, the fast startup option is disabled so i get a fresh boot every time. That's likely due more to my setup than the os, but I mentioned it because it's not any slower than 7 for shutdown and startup.
DirectX 12 is useless for NVidia cards as it doesn't show a jump in performance like AMD. It also launched in 2014 (2015 with Win 10) and it's been 4 years now and games still have DX11 so not a big deal. I'll only move to another OS when DX11 is dead like DX9. AMD fanboys have been saying that DX11 is dead for years now, yet all games released still have DX11 and even the upcoming ones still have it and will use it.
I connect my phone to my win 7 and even control it by receiving and replying to messages, etc. and even use the phone as desktop in Win 7 with all my phones (S8+, Note 5, S4, LG V20, Pixel 2 XL), so nothing new there, it's been an option for ages and it's pretty easy and straightforward to do. You can even stream games from my desktop to my phone by simply using an app, its not limited to Win 10 (Check out Steam Link App).
Better connectivity with newer hardware is the fault of Intel not providing support for the newest chips being unable to use Win 7. Ryzen chips still support Win 7. So not worried as good old AMD with their outstanding Ryzen chips still run Win 7. My next build will definitely be a Ryzen 2 (not the plus you see just released) chip with the best GPU that can beat out my 1080Ti FTW Hybrid (Don't care if it's red or green).
I also only have a Nintendo Switch to go with my gaming rig as I don't need the Xbox nor the PS4 (PC Master race for life - LOL!), so not a big loss there.
Virtual desktops have also been available for Win 7 for the longest time, you can just use Virtual Machine from MS themselves. I've also used Oracle VM Virtual Box many times in Win 7, so nothing new again.
It's good that you disabled fast shutdown as it disables wake on lan. It also truly allows to reset your CPU up-time counter. Bottom line, anyone using an SSD can get to the desktop and start an application and run it within 15-20 seconds of cold boot whether it's win 7 or win 10.
As for turning off telemetry, you never really turn it off (you only set it to basic which still has telemetry), also you can only set it to the lowest settings if you use Win 10 Ultimate or Education and you have to use a group policy to do that. If you use the other versions of Win 10 it's never really off. If you use 3rd party software to block Microsoft servers IP addresses and URLs to disable telemetry it may cause serious problems as mentioned in this article -->https://www.askvg.com/fix...bsites-in-windows-10/.
Here's the link showing that setting your security to zero "0" in Win 10 (core/home) is basically setting it to basic. Scroll down to "Truth Behind This Group Policy or Registry Trick" in the article and you'll see that Microsoft has mentioned clearly in the description of "Allow Telemetry" option in Group Policy Editor that setting the option to "0 - Security" on Windows 10 Home or Pro editions is equivalent to settings it to "1 - Basic"
https://www.askvg.com/tru...n-trick-in-windows-10/
Hey like the rest said, if you like Win 10 it's all on you! We agree to disagree then! Cheers!
You've told us more about yourself here than Windows 10 sends via telemetry and if you use Facebook I don't even get people even mentioning privacy.  Windows 7 is EOL and is an inferior OS. I get people prefer the 'style' of Windows 7. There's no technical argument making it better.
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/19 10:08:10
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You've told us more about yourself here than Windows 10 sends via telemetry and if you use Facebook I don't even get people even mentioning privacy. Windows 7 is EOL and is an inferior OS. I get people prefer the 'style' of Windows 7. There's no technical argument making it better.
Maybe understand what I was saying? I answered what he was claiming as what Win 10 could do but in fact Win 7 can do almost everything he mentioned and I gave examples. As for the telemetry maybe read the links I gave as it does discuss it and why it will work and won't work for specific Win 10 versions. I never said Win 7 was technically better, I just said that Win 7 was better regarding personal security because MS can't get any of your data if you know what you're doing compared to Win 10 (Now if you read the link you'd probably see more about the telemetry - you obviously didn't). Who says I use Facebook? I also don't use Skype or any app that asks for too much private info from you / keeps logs of your history. Lol!
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/19 10:35:28
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HeavyHemi
You've told us more about yourself here than Windows 10 sends via telemetry and if you use Facebook I don't even get people even mentioning privacy. Windows 7 is EOL and is an inferior OS. I get people prefer the 'style' of Windows 7. There's no technical argument making it better.
Maybe understand what I was saying? I answered what he was claiming as what Win 10 could do but in fact Win 7 can do almost everything he mentioned and I gave examples. As for the telemetry maybe read the links I gave as it does discuss it and why it will work and won't work for specific Win 10 versions. I never said Win 7 was technically better, I just said that Win 7 was better regarding personal security because MS can't get any of your data if you know what you're doing compared to Win 10 (Now if you read the link you'd probably see more about the telemetry - you obviously didn't). Who says I use Facebook? I also don't use Skype or any app that asks for too much private info from you / keeps logs of your history. Lol!
I understood what you said, I disagree with what you said. Win 7 isn't better for personal security, it is LESS secure. Please don't tell me what I have and have not read. (because you obviously don't know that). Maybe don't use an unsupportable claim as your main argument? I didn't say you use Facebook. I pointed out having YOUR NAME HERE, tells us more about you that Win 10 tells MS. That seems like a contradiction: You're worried about MS using ANONYMOUS data while you have your name posted of a public forum....I don't see how that is consistent with your main fear of Windows 10 being your privacy.
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/19 10:49:29
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I understood what you said, I disagree with what you said. Win 7 isn't better for personal security, it is LESS secure. Please don't tell me what I have and have not read. (because you obviously don't know that). Maybe don't use an unsupportable claim as your main argument? I didn't say you use Facebook. I pointed out having YOUR NAME HERE, tells us more about you that Win 10 tells MS. That seems like a contradiction: You're worried about MS using ANONYMOUS data while you have your name posted of a public forum....I don't see how that is consistent with your main fear of Windows 10 being your privacy.
Who says that's my real name (maybe you believe that's my real photo as well in my profile)? Don't assume as well. Yeah Win 7 is less secure, how? It doesn't have telemetry that can't be turned off (unless Win 10 Enterprise / education) and you can actually even block off ports / URL's / IP addresses in Win 7 which is an issue with Win 10 (Link I gave above). So basically we agree to disagree as well. Cheers!
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/19 10:52:21
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Guys it’s ok to disagree on which OS is better but make sure you are basing it on facts and not trying to win a flame war with each other. Everyone has a personal point of view and really I know IT staff who will say Windows 7 is what they use because it has had time for flaws to be found while others will say Windows 10 because it was built knowing the flaws in Windows 7.
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/19 10:55:17
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Guys it’s ok to disagree on which OS is better but make sure you are basing it on facts and not trying to win a flame war with each other. Everyone has a personal point of view and really I know IT staff who will say Windows 7 is what they use because it has had time for flaws to be found while others will say Windows 10 because it was built knowing the flaws in Windows 7.
Yup, that's why I said I agree to disagree. Nothing personal! EDIT: Apologies for derailing the OP, hope DeBadger84 finds a happy OC with his card!
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
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Step 1 - Rock Solid MB/ RAM/ CPU setup OC Step 2 - Move to "Slave BIOS" - switch position towards the back of the card and away from the monitor ports Step 3 - Power Target, Temp target - slide Full Right, Case fans and Card fans 100% speed for best results - once your best stable OC is found - lower your fan speeds till it impacts your OC stability or your decide its quiet enough Step 4 - Save these settings to profile Notice:Do NOT set your OC to auto launch on Reboot - cause when you push it too far it Crashes, that is Not the setting you want auto loaded - Right  Step 5 - Baseline test with the benchmark software of your choice - record score, room temp, card temps, settings Step 6 - Small steps adjust the GPU First 10MHz steps till stability is not always stable - back off 10% Step 7 - Now start testing the RAM speed Voltage - More Voltage can allow a higher OC; however, it also generates More Heat - balancing act that requires testing. Nvidia Boost 3.0 will start down clocking around 50C
Step 8 - Have FUN ! OP as requested; my OC for my rig AIO Folding - (link in signature) Your mileage will vary, silicon lottery effect and the stability of the rest of your build and power
Nvidia Boost 3.0 --> sure does love a Cold GPU pics below - room is 8 C - Cards are fully loaded 80-90% Folding - for weeks at 30 C & 31 C --> that's a temperature Delta of 22-23C above ambient (room) temp checked again --> room 13C, GPU fan running near Max = 35 C ---> still 23C above ambient  
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Re: Clock suggestions, other improvements (eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid)
2018/05/19 12:56:19
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Fearsome Kittyoh ****, totally didn't see you had the hybrid kit. those are totally fine numbers for that card. I was over here thinking you were complaining about getting that high of numbers on a regular ftw3, and I was like, "that blows mine out of the water, I must have a bad one" XD. I'm happy with anything over 2GHz, so i'd be overjoyed with your numbers. A few more tens of MHz isn't really going to do anything on the core, might as well do as suggested and see how high memory goes, but even that isn't going to do a lot in many games. you should be very happy with your card c: Yeah, I've started fiddling with vRAM. So far I've only tested +400MHz, but it passed the whole suite of benchmarks (FireStrike, Heaven, Valley) without artifacts, with the core still at 2050MHz. After seeing what clocks people actually reliably get WITHOUT going to the XOC Bios, I'm pretty happy with this, and with the temps still (mostly) staying under 50C. At stock, however, hitting 1987/1974/1961MHz & staying under 45C is pretty darn great. I may try just doing vRAM OC & see what kind of performance gain I get out of just that vs with the core OCed as well... if the vRAM itself nets me a few more FPS without the Core, that translates to lower temps & less stress on the card. Cool GTX
Step 1 - Rock Solid MB/ RAM/ CPU setup OC
Step 2 - Move to "Slave BIOS" - switch position towards the back of the card and away from the monitor ports
Step 3 - Power Target, Temp target - slide Full Right, Case fans and Card fans 100% speed for best results
- once your best stable OC is found - lower your fan speeds till it impacts your OC stability or your decide its quiet enough
Step 4 - Save these settings to profile
Notice:
Do NOT set your OC to auto launch on Reboot - cause when you push it too far it Crashes, that is Not the setting you want auto loaded - Right
Step 5 - Baseline test with the benchmark software of your choice - record score, room temp, card temps, settings
Step 6 - Small steps adjust the GPU First 10MHz steps till stability is not always stable - back off 10%
Step 7 - Now start testing the RAM speed
Voltage - More Voltage can allow a higher OC; however, it also generates More Heat - balancing act that requires testing.
Nvidia Boost 3.0 will start down clocking around 50C
Step 8 - Have FUN !
OP as requested; my OC for my rig AIO Folding - (link in signature)
Thanks for that. I am going to start from scratch (I have my current max stable OC saved in a profile already) over my next weekend (Monday-Tuesday) & see what I can hit. My ambient is much higher than yours, varies between 70-75F (21-24C), but my airflow profile is also re-dic-ulous, which is part of why my temps are as low as they are:  That's my case, I have 3 AP182 Silverstone Air Penetrator 180mm fans on the side (all as intake) so both the Motherboard & GPU are getting insane airflow (I've taken the case side off with it on & felt it myself, it's a lot of air & it's very directed instead of just spewing everywhere). I also have 2 Corsair SP120s on the FTW3 Hybrid's radiator in a push/pull, not sure how much if any good that's doing in terms of keeping temps lower, but I figured why not since I had them new in box from when I got fans for the old 2x R9 295x2 setup I had & never put them on the 2nd card before I sold it. I'm looking forward to upgrading my CPU/RAM/Motherboard setup, but I am waiting until Threadripper 2 & the next big socket/chipset from Intel comes out & I'll decide which to get based on performance numbers & what fits the price I'm willing to pay. I don't fancy spending over $600 on a CPU anymore than I did when the 3930K was new, so I'll likely end up with the newer version of the Threadripper 1900X, or whatever Intel's 6-8 core unlocked CPU is for the next gen.
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