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Re: Can anyone assist with using G.SKILL 4600MHz and the Z390 Dark? 2019/04/12 06:58:40 (permalink)
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1. trim 4 corners of the cpu socket to make edges of the socket even, so that you can gain more mounting pressure (dangerous procedure and probably you loose your warranty, but I did, you can see in the picture)
2. put electrical tape on the pcb around the die
3. stick 0.5 or 0.3 mm copper plates on the corners of the cpu pcb. I used 0.3 mm and the tape is 0.1 mm. So it makes 0.4 mm totally
4. sand the die together with copper plates to make them all even
5. lap the bottom of the water block for to get rid of the convexity
6. try the block on the socket to see if the block can go all the way down to touch the edges of the socket
7. put the cpu inside the socket, apply LM and mount the water block carefully on the cpu
8. tighten all screws to the limit that you can not turn anymore
 




little doubt with de final step, maybe a noob question xD, if we tighten too much the screws.. Do the die can break?
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Re: Can anyone assist with using G.SKILL 4600MHz and the Z390 Dark? 2019/04/15 22:14:42 (permalink)
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1. trim 4 corners of the cpu socket to make edges of the socket even, so that you can gain more mounting pressure (dangerous procedure and probably you loose your warranty, but I did, you can see in the picture)
2. put electrical tape on the pcb around the die
3. stick 0.5 or 0.3 mm copper plates on the corners of the cpu pcb. I used 0.3 mm and the tape is 0.1 mm. So it makes 0.4 mm totally
4. sand the die together with copper plates to make them all even
5. lap the bottom of the water block for to get rid of the convexity
6. try the block on the socket to see if the block can go all the way down to touch the edges of the socket
7. put the cpu inside the socket, apply LM and mount the water block carefully on the cpu
8. tighten all screws to the limit that you can not turn anymore
 




little doubt with de final step, maybe a noob question xD, if we tighten too much the screws.. Do the die can break?


no, the 4 copper shims on the corners makes the pressure even on 4 corners of the pcb and the die. the waterblock needs to touch all of the edges of the cpu socket to guarantee you have enough and even pressure. 
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Re: Can anyone assist with using G.SKILL 4600MHz and the Z390 Dark? 2019/04/16 20:36:27 (permalink)
can you post your timings with the asrock configurator?
 
here's my 4600 stable setting 

i9 9900k 5.2ghz - evga z390 dark - corsair ax1200i16GB g.skill tridentZ RGB 4600 CL18 - RTX 2080Ti  2160/8000960 -NVMe's only - LianLi O11 - ASUS ROG PG279Q Gsync @ 165hz - 2x Qnix2710 @ 120hz - klipsch promedia 2.1
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Re: Can anyone assist with using G.SKILL 4600MHz and the Z390 Dark? 2019/04/18 16:44:45 (permalink)
I noticed when I installed that direct die mount that if you tighten the 3 screws too much it will raise the CPU socket! So those 4 corners of the CPU socket you mentioned to trim off would be higher then the CPU die if one tightens that direct die mount.

I loosened the 3 screws a hair or 2 and then used a plastic razor and verified the CPU die cleared those corners of the CPU socket.

This is on a Asus z390 Extreme XI.

No idea if the block is tightened so much it will make those 4 corners of the cpu socket rise above the die.. that's a question though.

Seems ok so far. 5.2ghz at 1.36v LLC 7 and 1.34v on load. Temps low to mid 70s in realbench 15 min stress test.

Cant get 5 3v but really only was brave enough to try 1.38v. :/ prob need 1.4v so it will be around 1.37v load.

4266mhz was an issue.. but raising the dram voltage to 1.4 to 1.41 volts seems to cure that problem with my 4x 8gb g.skill trident Z 4266mhz rgb ram.

Was losing my mind cause I was using like 1.35v vccio volts and it wasn't making a difference. Bsod at 3.15v.
post edited by AHowes - 2019/04/18 18:21:18

Intel i9 9900K @ 5.2Ghz Dual Custom Water Loops.
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G.Skill Trident Z 32GB (4x8GB) 4266MHz DDR4 
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Re: Can anyone assist with using G.SKILL 4600MHz and the Z390 Dark? 2019/05/01 09:08:02 (permalink)
One thing myself and a few others have found is the z390 dark doesn’t seem to like A1 mem layout very much. My ram A1 layout ran at XMP for a while doing some other stuff on the cpu and one day just stopped. Tried putting the ram in an msi mobo and no go. Put another set of ram in the dark board and it wouldn’t post at all. Switched to a known a2 layout set and no issues since.


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