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2015/04/03 13:16:05 (permalink)
Can you connect a Y-Adaptor and use two Fans with the built in power that is provide by the GTX 980 HYBRID Card?
Duel Fan setup for a Push/Pull Setup is what I am aiming for. Thank You.
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/07 14:10:14 (permalink)
    You should be able to, just don't go for huge power fans and you should be fine.
     
    What fans were you planning on using (link?) for your P/P hybrid?
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/07 15:02:19 (permalink)
    Thanks Dave,
    The Fan that comes with GTX 980 HYBRID (Pull) and a Corsair A1225L12S 12VDC 0.30A (Push)
    Blades look like this fan
     
    See Post http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2319175 for Fans Used.
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/07 15:10:21 (permalink)
    That should be fine then, that is well below the limit.
    Absolute max is 19.2w, but really I would try to stay below that if this is done long term.  Myself I would try not to exceed 12 or 15w max for a permanent setup.
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/07 15:15:58 (permalink)
    OK, can change fans, I did find that the fan I used is from the Corsair 900D Case: http://www.legitreviews.com/corsair-obsidian-900d-godzilla-full-tower-pc-case-review_2171/3
    I will look for a smaller fan then. I know that fan that come with the unit is a 0.20A Fan.
    Thank you for a quick reply.

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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/07 15:22:12 (permalink)
    I will go with two of these fans then. http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/case-fan/super-fan-120-su2/
    They are .15A Fans

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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/07 15:28:04 (permalink)
    Cooler Master SickleFlow 120 - Sleeve Bearing 120mm Silent Fan for Computer Cases, CPU Coolers, and Radiators (Smoke Color)
    http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/case-fan/sickleflow-120-1200rpm/ Only 0.12A at lest I it is lower that .30A with the above fans
     

    Thanks EVGATech_DaveB this is what I will go with for both P/P Fans
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/07 15:44:11 (permalink)
    The sicklleflows would be great, low power solid performance.
    I recommend using the same fans when doing P/P, if not sometimes you can get some odd noises/tones/harmonics and whatnot.  Just an FYI, as I have seen this myself before.
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/09 13:57:47 (permalink)
    Issue with the New Fans
    http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/case-fan/sickleflow-120-1200rpm/ Only Current (Ampere) 0.12A and Input(Watt) 1.44w as shown on their Web Site.
    The Box Shows Current (Ampere) 0.35 Input(Watt) 4.2w.
     
    Now I am not sure I can use them.

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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/09 14:00:06 (permalink)
    I would really not worry, I think you should still be fine, with the 2 together you are still below half of the wattage cap.
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/09 14:20:01 (permalink)
    Wow! that is good to know. I cannot find any low AMP fans. I go with them then.

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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/09 14:25:30 (permalink)
    Yup, no problem.  I guess low amp is perspective, those are low amp lol, at least compared to mine.  Also, for solid rad friendly fans that are quiet and low power, I have had really good luck with Noctua.  I think you should have some really good performance with these. 
    Once all is up and running let me know the temps (also ambient) and the OPPC you are running, I am really curious to see what the temp does with those fans, as it did pretty well with that came on it.
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/09 14:42:10 (permalink)
    I have my Temperature Testing Posted here: http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2320104

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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/10 21:23:00 (permalink)
    Dave, or any other EVGA tech, can you comment on why the maximum wattage is 19.2W for the fans? Is this due to the connector on the PCB, or overall power draw of the card?

    I ask because I plan on using this cooler on the GTX TITAN X. Just wondering what to expect with that card since it has a 250W TDP, and 300W capacity from the PCI-E lane and 6 + 8 pin power connectors. In this setup, you'd have the card drawing up to 250W/300W of the maximum power, then adding on the water pump and additional fan. With an overclock, I am wondering if there is any issue with burning something out (such as the 24-pin MOBO connection like awhile back) from drawing too much power (300+W). I feel like this would be possible with custom BIOS (beyond 110% power target) to reach high overclocks since you'd have lower temperatures, and especially possible in a SLI setup. Really want some EVGA tech insight before I try this.

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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/11 00:55:29 (permalink)
    The stock fan connected into with the built in power is quite loud, especially in idle (no speed control). Better connect the fan(s) to a motherboard if it supports voltage-based speed control. For better performance I would recommend high pressure fans like Corsair SP120 (not AF120).
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/11 14:42:12 (permalink)
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    The stock fan connected into with the built in power is quite loud, especially in idle (no speed control). Better connect the fan(s) to a motherboard if it supports voltage-based speed control. For better performance I would recommend high pressure fans like Corsair SP120 (not AF120).


    My Stock fan was not loud at all at idle, now if I set the fan to 100% then yes it will be louder.
    Now you need to tell us or show us how you mounted your Fan/Radiator in your computer Case.
    Then we can give you some steps to help the loudness you may have.
    Like on the Rear of the Computer Case I snip off the metal cover that you mount a normal fan to, this will reduce fan noise.

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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/11 15:26:34 (permalink)
    Loudness is relative - what is loud for me may be silent for you. Are you sure you can control EVGA's fan with 3-pin connector? You can control Nvidia's blower for sure but I'm pretty sure fan speed is fixed.
     
    This is how my system looks like now (after the fan swap):

     
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/11 15:50:43 (permalink)
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    Loudness is relative - what is loud for me may be silent for you. Are you sure you can control EVGA's fan with 3-pin connector? You can control Nvidia's blower for sure but I'm pretty sure fan speed is fixed.
     
    This is how my system looks like now (after the fan swap):
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    Yes I am sure about the Fan Controller, I control the fan(s) mounted on the Radiator between 1100 RPM Default to 3300 RPM Max.
    The Fan Connector from the Video Card only controls the Blower Fan.
    What dose the back of your computer look like, where the Radiator is Mounted.
    The GPU Fan inside looks like it is Pushing Air and also Pulling out the Hot Air From your CPU!
    This might not be the best way to mount your Radiator, it looks like you have more than enough room at the Front of your Case.
    This way you can Pull Cool Outside Air over your GPU Radiator and not Hot Air from a CPU. You have room for Push/Pull too!
    Do you have a Pull Fan on the Outside of your Case?
    What is at the Top of your Case?
    What are your GPU Temperatures? Idle and Full Usage
    How is your SLI?
    Nice Clean Build your have.
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/11 16:41:09 (permalink)
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    Yes I am sure about the Fan Controller, I control the fan(s) mounted on the Radiator between 1100 RPM Default to 3300 RPM Max.
    This is with the Fan Connector from the Video Card.

    Strange. My fan is 2-pin so I can't even check its speed but it seems to be circa 2000 RPM.
     
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    What dose the back of your computer look like, where the Radiator is Mounted.
    The GPU Fan inside looks like it is Pushing Air and also Pulling out the Hot Air From your CPU!
    This might not be the best way to mount your Radiator, it looks like you have more than enough room at the Front of your Case.

    True but that air is not too hot. My CPU is i7-4790K with 88W TDP. There is not enough heat to warm that big white Enermax heatsink :) Also, I'm going to buy second Hybrid Watercooler. There would be very hot inside my case if there would be two front intakes cooling two 200W GPUs...
     
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    What are your GPU Temperatures? Idle and Full Usage

    50-55C on Hybrid and 75-80 on reference in full stress. With EVGA's fast & loud fan it was below 40C.
     
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    How is your SLI?
    Nice Clean Build your have.

    SLI is ok, works great with my 144Hz display. Thanks :)


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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/13 09:15:22 (permalink)
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    Dave, or any other EVGA tech, can you comment on why the maximum wattage is 19.2W for the fans? Is this due to the connector on the PCB, or overall power draw of the card?

    I ask because I plan on using this cooler on the GTX TITAN X. Just wondering what to expect with that card since it has a 250W TDP, and 300W capacity from the PCI-E lane and 6 + 8 pin power connectors. In this setup, you'd have the card drawing up to 250W/300W of the maximum power, then adding on the water pump and additional fan. With an overclock, I am wondering if there is any issue with burning something out (such as the 24-pin MOBO connection like awhile back) from drawing too much power (300+W). I feel like this would be possible with custom BIOS (beyond 110% power target) to reach high overclocks since you'd have lower temperatures, and especially possible in a SLI setup. Really want some EVGA tech insight before I try this.



    Yes it will take away some voltage possibly used for overclocks, much like why the ACX 2.0 adds more theoretical headroom due to the voltage reduction.  However in a vast majority of cases I don't think it would be noticeable.
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/13 09:28:55 (permalink)
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    Dave, or any other EVGA tech, can you comment on why the maximum wattage is 19.2W for the fans? Is this due to the connector on the PCB, or overall power draw of the card?

    I ask because I plan on using this cooler on the GTX TITAN X. Just wondering what to expect with that card since it has a 250W TDP, and 300W capacity from the PCI-E lane and 6 + 8 pin power connectors. In this setup, you'd have the card drawing up to 250W/300W of the maximum power, then adding on the water pump and additional fan. With an overclock, I am wondering if there is any issue with burning something out (such as the 24-pin MOBO connection like awhile back) from drawing too much power (300+W). I feel like this would be possible with custom BIOS (beyond 110% power target) to reach high overclocks since you'd have lower temperatures, and especially possible in a SLI setup. Really want some EVGA tech insight before I try this.



    Yes it will take away some voltage possibly used for overclocks, much like why the ACX 2.0 adds more theoretical headroom due to the voltage reduction.  However in a vast majority of cases I don't think it would be noticeable.


    If I may ask here, would this be true also on the GTX 980 HYBRID Card?

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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/13 09:33:44 (permalink)
    Yes, keep in mind, that the lower power fans you run the less voltage is used.  The lower the power used by the cooling the more is there to be used for overclocking.  However that extra 5 or 10 Watts does not guarantee the performance gain either.
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/13 09:38:02 (permalink)
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    Yes, keep in mind, that the lower power fans you run the less voltage is used.  The lower the power used by the cooling the more is there to be used for overclocking.  However that extra 5 or 10 Watts does not guarantee the performance gain either.


    That is true about the gain, I have been benching with the fans connected to the GPU and connected to a Fan Controller.
    Thanks for the reply.

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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/13 09:45:32 (permalink)
    If anyone is really that concerned with the power consumption, you could run the fans to an external controller, then problem solved  :)
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/04/17 18:52:14 (permalink)
    I added this Fan Controller to use on the two fans that are mounted to the GTX 980 HYBRID Radiator.
    I did not because the GPU Power was an issue but because I wanted to see the Fan RPM and the Radiator Temperature.

     
    With Both Fan Off I Hit 60C on the GPU and the Radiator 48C.
    With One Fan on the GPU hit 41C and the Radiator dropped down to 29C.
    With Two Fans on the GPU hit 39C and the Radiator dropped down to 26C.
    I placed Temperature Sensor on the Bottom of the Radiator.
    I think for the Computer Enthusiast it is worth the $35. from Amazon.
    It also looks nice in the Computer Case.
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/05/05 14:48:11 (permalink)
    Just curious. Does the hybrid cooler support PWM fans. These look like 3 pin DC fans to me.
     
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/05/05 14:59:04 (permalink)
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    Just curious. Does the hybrid cooler support PWM fans. These look like 3 pin DC fans to me.
     
    Thanks,
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    The Fan Power for the Radiator is only 2-Pin (NO PWM Fan Support)
    For it is very Rare that I would use 4-Pin Fans and mostly for CPU Coolers.
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/05/05 18:04:54 (permalink)
    Yes. two pins used in this case. But the header is compatible to standard 3 pin DC fan connector. 
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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/05/05 18:05:54 (permalink)
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    Yes. two pins used in this case. But the header is compatible to standard 3 pin DC fan connector. 


    Correct

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    Re: Can The GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID Support Two Fans with a Y-Adaptor? 2015/05/08 18:35:14 (permalink)
    Hi, EVGATech_DaveB can you please tell me which Noctua fans have you USED for this rad? I tried on All-in-one GeForce GTX 980 HYBRID kit mounted on Titan X to use Noctua NF-F12 Pwm, but with no luck. I tried 2 of them but none of them hasn't started at all. I also plugged a small NF-A4x10 FLX, just to try - this one start with little help. All of noctua are 12V, 0.05A, 0.6W, but seems that they need more power/voltage at the start. Stock fan (which is loud like he'll) works fine, but I wish to change it for one of my Noctuas. Also my another question is, do this AIO kit do something with CONTROL fan speed or its just feed it with power ? Seems like it provide just power for fan, but I want to be sure.
    post edited by vulterey - 2015/05/08 18:41:36

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