toddryoungblood
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I've been mining CURE/FLDC for less than 3 months:  Outside of ~$500 in BTC I sent from Coinbase to Poloniex, my entire balance on Poloniex is from mining FLDC and CURE. This morning, for a few minutes, I touched $3,000 in value. I decided it was time to cash out on a part of that and start my 4th Folding Build, which I'm calling Watkins. My grandfather (Robert Watkins) is being moved to a home this weekend after being diagnosed with Alzheimer's a few years ago. His wife died of Parkinson's in 2000. Folding@Home is a deeply personal project for me. I'm trying to do as much as I can to wipe these diseases off the planet. This build is for you, Papa. So today I took out 1.7 BTC (~$1,950), which was just under 65% of my entire holding  And submitted an order for Watkins using BTC (Newegg accepts bitcoin):   Curecoin/Foldingcoin is always looking for members!
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/03 14:43:40
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i too have pulled ~$1500 from my returns with this latest rise and have another $1500 till i consider my latest build, EVE 3M PPD, "covered". if CURE can reach up to 0.0001 BTC/CURE then i will have that, in 6 months time. after this every CURE/FLDC i get will got straight into more hardware for more production. i too have a grandpa who suffered from Alzheimer's and that is something that is just terrible to watch such a strong independent man who is still healthy loose the ability to live a full memorable life. that is why i have been folding for all these years and i love the fact that people through the crypto currency can support the work we do and allow us the capability of expanding our computational power to fight back against these diseases.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/03 14:46:39
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i too have pulled ~$1500 from my returns with this latest rise and have another $1500 till i consider my latest build "covered". if CURE can reach up to 0.0001 BTC/CURE then i will have that, in 6 months time. after this every CURE/FLDC i get will got straight into more hardware for more production. i too have a grandpa who suffered from Alzheimer's and that is something that is just terrible to watch such a strong independent man who is still healthy loose the ability to live a full memorable life.
that is why i have been folding for all these years and i love the fact that people through the crypto currency can support the work we do and allow us the capability of expanding our computational power to fight back against these diseases.
You could always start buying the parts now, that $1500 almost get you the base parts for a build that supports 4 GPU.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/03 14:59:58
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i have yet to find an alternative build that is as cost effective as 2x GPU's per chassis at a cost of ~$164 per GPU, while maintaining pcie 3.0 x8. even if you put 4 gpu's on the parts listed you will have a chassis cost of ~$292 per GPU. you'll need to put six GPU's on that system to come close to matching the cost effectiveness of a cheap two GPU solution. if you're interested i can share the parts list with you. i have had that cheap system running for nearly 8 months now as i was playing around testing things. EDIT: just did a price check on the parts i built back then and prices have gone up on most things. its still under $200 per GPU, $183 after rebates, but i did have to modify the parts some due to RAM costs doubling and chose a different case as i didn't like the one i got before. EDIT2: lol, being a PC enthusiast i just love PC part shopping and i found an even better deal, pic below. The only sacrifices i had to make on this one compared to my old one is half the RAM (from 8GB to 4GB) and USB Flash Boot Drive instead of a HDD (for linux it's all that's required). i also was able to pick out a much better case than the one i had before for ~$7 more than what i paid for the one before. this case has 3x 120mm front fans so you can really move the air through the case and a spot for a 120mm rad in the rear if you want an AIO cooler on the top card. 
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 05:14:23
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Interesting insight, Chris. Couldn't you get the chassis cost even lower by using an AMD processor? I understand there is a higher marginal cost when you look at 2 GPU builds instead of 3-4-5-6, but with 3 machines already disbursed throughout my apartment due to power draw, I decided the additional cost of building a 4-GPU system was preferable to any negative response from my SO. 
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 06:23:45
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AMDs approach to cutting cost on their ryzen CPU's was to limit the pcie lanes to 16 on chip, which would be two cards but no manufacturers have released an SLI board on the cheap. They eather have one pcie 3.0 x16 and one pcie 2.0 X4 or cost over $150. This may change with time but intel has cheap parts when it comes to low end general comsumer grade parts.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 06:42:28
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 06:51:00
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ryzen is AMD's only CPU which supports pcie 3.0 and all their others support is very outdated. for me i required pcie 3.0 x8 or pcie 2.0 x16. i have yet to do sound testing on the many combinations of buss speed on high end pascal cards but i do know that there was a decent hit to the ppd when i was running a 1070 on pcie 2.0 x8. below is my test data on the same work unit.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 06:51:13
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screw double posts! Chris21010PCIE 3.0 x8
9704: 636,693
9704: 644,790
9704: 645,873
9704: 638,934
9704: 648,603
Avg PPD: 642,978
PCIE 2.0 x8
9704: 572,532
9704: 575,073
9704: 572,382
Avg PPD: 573,329
~10% improvement with the 1070 going form pcie 2.0 to pcie 3.0.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 06:52:50
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Chris21010
screw double posts!
Chris21010PCIE 3.0 x8
9704: 636,693
9704: 644,790
9704: 645,873
9704: 638,934
9704: 648,603
Avg PPD: 642,978
PCIE 2.0 x8
9704: 572,532
9704: 575,073
9704: 572,382
Avg PPD: 573,329
~10% improvement with the 1070 going form pcie 2.0 to pcie 3.0.
Interesting. Let me do some analysis of my own data.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 07:07:39
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So... after some quick checking, my machines actually paint a different story.  My AMD (FX-8320E) machine (Turing) actually runs faster than my Intel (2500k) machine (Zuse). I selected the top 3 highest occurring projects and split the dates based on times when I knew the machines had the same GPU. Now, there is a small difference in the GPU model though. The AMD machine had 2 ASUS 1070 Strix which have marginally better cooling than the 2 EVGA 1070 SC Black in the Intel machine.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 07:46:28
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Can you list the motherboards used? Because the AMD cpu has a pcie 2.0 x16 and a pcie 2.0 x4, my assumption is that the x16 gpu is getting higher ppd than the x4 and they avg to be the same. HFM should be able to give you info down to each gpu, right?
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 07:57:32
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Sure. The AMD motherboard is an ASUS 970 Aura PRO GAMING. It's running 2 cards on PCIe 2.0 @ x8 The Intel motherboard is a Gigabyte P67A-UD3. It's also running 2 cards on PCIe 2.0 @ x8 (which, according to the spec page, it supposedly shouldn't be able to do?) I haven't noticed any difference in PPD between PCIe 3.0 running @ x16 and PCIe 2.0 @ x8
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 08:57:00
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ok, your ASUS board is speced to be dual pcie 2.0 x8 but the Gigabyte is pcie 2.0 x16 and x4 (x1 if you have something in one of those pcie x1 slots). that is what the specs on them say at least. to get a 100% definitive answer you'll need to run GPUz, it will show you exactly how they are running. but when you look at the Newegg pic of the back of the board you will see that all the pins for the lower pcie slot are not soldered, meaning its physically not possible to be running higher than x4.
also just noticed that you have the ppd for your 1070's around 586K which is closer inline to my 573k that i listed for my pcie 2.0 x8 than the 642K listed for the pcie 3.0 x8. your data may be consistent but it could be constantly ~10% lower than it could be. i am assuming you have a newer pcie 3.0 compliant mobo? if so i would like to see its data on a 1070 if you have it.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 11:36:00
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ok, your ASUS board is speced to be dual pcie 2.0 x8 but the Gigabyte is pcie 2.0 x16 and x4 (x1 if you have something in one of those pcie x1 slots). that is what the specs on them say at least. to get a 100% definitive answer you'll need to run GPUz, it will show you exactly how they are running. but when you look at the Newegg pic of the back of the board you will see that all the pins for the lower pcie slot are not soldered, meaning its physically not possible to be running higher than x4.
also just noticed that you have the ppd for your 1070's around 586K which is closer inline to my 573k that i listed for my pcie 2.0 x8 than the 642K listed for the pcie 3.0 x8. your data may be consistent but it could be constantly ~10% lower than it could be. i am assuming you have a newer pcie 3.0 compliant mobo? if so i would like to see its data on a 1070 if you have it.
The numbers I gave you are based on what GPU-Z says. For both the Intel and AMD boards, the 4 1070 are running PCIe 2.0 @ x8 and average around ~600k. I have a 1070 running on my primary machine running PCIe 3.0 @ x8 and it's the lowest of the batch at 578K PPD, so I doubt there is much, if any, difference between PCIe 2.0 and PCIe 3.0.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 12:05:20
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hmmm, i find it interesting how the intel one says x8 by x8 when there are only x4 pins soldered to the motherboard on that second port... anyway, i think i recall there being an option to set the speed on the pcie buss on my mobo. i'll drop it down to pcie 2.0 for a few days and see what the results say.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 14:13:33
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hmmm, i find it interesting how the intel one says x8 by x8 when there are only x4 pins soldered to the motherboard on that second port... anyway, i think i recall there being an option to set the speed on the pcie buss on my mobo. i'll drop it down to pcie 2.0 for a few days and see what the results say.
I'll play around with the configurations to see if I see any differences on this new MOBO. Either way I'll be moving all my 1080 Ti to x16.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/04 21:50:35
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OK, i went through my log for a full week worth of folding data, 315 completed work units, on my windows 10 PC running 5x 1070's at pcie 3.0 x8 and here is the PPD data. Slot 1 is paused at times while i game so it is assumed to have some lower PPD units when i do this. but it actually seems to have had a few days where it was consistently lower than the rest... i may still be having this stupid issue for my primary display GPU from time to time, the card doesn't boost up to full clock speeds. either way tomorrow i will change the BIOS to make these run at pcie 2.0 x8 and let it run until there is enough data to support one hypothesis or another.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/05 05:49:17
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Your issue is related to this. Any programs that may use your GPU throttle the power limit/clock. This can be fixed by making sure all programs are shut down when you're not using them. Chrome, Windows Calculator, Skype, etc. all cause this issue.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/05 12:39:55
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Which coin should I mine for the best profit, FLDC or CURE? How much do you think I could mine in a month with a 2600k and 2 970s?
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/05 12:44:11
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Which coin should I mine for the best profit, FLDC or CURE? How much do you think I could mine in a month with a 2600k and 2 970s?
You can mine both at the same time. What's your PPD?
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/05 16:53:37
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Which coin should I mine for the best profit, FLDC or CURE? How much do you think I could mine in a month with a 2600k and 2 970s?
you can earn both coins while folding. the 970's can earn ~350k ppd each which will earn you about 20 Cure and 800 FLDC per day for about about $3 per day at a profit rate of ~60% if your system draws 450W and your power costs you $0.09 per kWh. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XHeqixEtNJ4N5b2b6kRGxcqh3LOJoXsvRShI7ENDYjE/edit#gid=0 you can play around with this doc to calculate your exact profitability.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/06 15:46:45
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OK, i know this isn't related to PPD but playing video games while folding at the same time on pcie 2.0 x8 went from stuttering to slideshow... this isnt something i do often but when a unit has only 20min or so till it finishes i would click finish instead of pause and that is no longer an option now as its completely unplayable.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/08 18:26:59
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Well I've tried to jump on this bandwagon, but apparently because my folding name has special characters in it, I CAN'T register for folding pools for cure coin. I also can't message the head of the project because I can't register for an account to get into the forums because my folding name has special characters in it. Very frustrated about this "stupid" issue. This is so dumb..arg. Several days of folding wasted because of this stupid incompatibility. I was wondering why my wallet still had 0 of any coins in it, now I know why and that this was a waste of time and resources.
Why can't these things ever be straight forward?
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/08 20:16:56
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CURE will show up within 48 hours of you starting F@H. also if you used the setup tool "Folding Browser" that is on foldingcoin.net it basically does everything for you to setup the wallets and stuff. i would recommend just making a new account with a username that is recognized.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/08 22:41:55
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Will see what I can do. And wow does that folding browser ever suck. It can't render windows properly and is a PITA to use haha.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/08 23:18:51
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i only used it to try it out and it did go through the initial setup alright. other than that i wouldn't use it on a regular bases.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/08 23:28:37
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Thank you for your assistance!
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/09 23:06:46
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OK, preliminary results are in and it looks like a 6% performance hit overall to the avg PPD and a 20% hit to the max PPD unit when you are going from pcie 3.0 x8 down to pcie 2.0 x8. imma still let this roll for a few more days as 141 completed units isnt as many as i would like to see. i'll post all the results in a few more days.
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Re: [CURE][FLDC] Cashout for a new build!
2017/04/10 06:13:24
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Thanks for the info! My new build only has two pcie 2.0 so I am quite curious how this plays out.. Although, mine might be x16..
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