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2022/04/03 16:03:44 (permalink)
Anyone have a list of the best aircoolers that work with this motherboard?
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/04/03 17:39:00 (permalink)
    If I wanted to cool with air, only one cooler I would look at on the market. The NH-D15 from Noctua. They also make it in black if you don't like their well known beige/brown color.

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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/04/03 19:18:11 (permalink)
    i have a noctua nh-d15s chromax . im not using it on my classified but it will fit and clear the memory. and i would get a couple 2 really good 120mm fans to put on it 
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/04/04 06:39:32 (permalink)
    would the Noctua NH-P1 work on this board?
     
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/05/19 12:20:40 (permalink)
    I have myself been looking for options in sufficiently ‘air-cooling’ a Z690 Dark Kingpin! Unfortunately not many specific recommendations or actual experiences have been posted to-date nor found. But I was advised that the Noctua NH15s and the Noctua NH-D12L will apparently fit. But both need to be installed (or mounted) in the horizontal position. The overall cooling result I understand is essentially the same and no air-flow direction is actually better from one another. What initially seems to be a disadvantage can actually turn out to be an asset. Remember the stack effect? If warm air rises, why not take advantage of that fact? For horizontal mounting, of course you need a case with ventilation up top to make this work.
     
    If forced I will order both Noctua coolers from AMAZON. With all of my MB prepping done ‘outside of the case’ (including the install of the OS and the latest BIOS update) I will know within a few minutes and return whatever cooler will not fit! Of course I have a Corsair 1000D with 12 Noctua fans which should further support my aversion and bad experiences towards AIO’s.
     
    FYI: I will not be overclocking the Dark Kingpin and as I purchased the Kingpin solely for its looks and have some cash to burn. I love EVGA products and their customer service and most of all the looks of the Kingpin. Very much like my blond girlfriend who can walk the walk and talk the talk and has other unique assets that are highly visible!
     
    post edited by Tom Sunday - 2022/05/19 12:23:56

    >Case: Phanteks Evolv X
    >PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600W P2 Platinum
    >MB: EVGA Intel Z690 Classified
    >CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K
    >GPU: EVGA GeForce 3090 Ti Ultra 
    >Cooling: ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360
    >Fans: 6X Noctua NF-A12x25
    >Memory: Corsair RGB 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 5200MHz 
    >Monitor: Alienware 38” AW3821DW
    >Storage: (3X) SAMSUNG 980 PRO 2TB PCIe
    >OS: WIN 11 Professional
     
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/05/20 09:22:22 (permalink)
    Tom Sunday
    I have myself been looking for options in sufficiently ‘air-cooling’ a Z690 Dark Kingpin! Unfortunately not many specific recommendations or actual experiences have been posted to-date nor found. 



    it's a board made for oc and extreme oc. seems bizarre to me that anyone would spend $800+ on a board they're going to use to run stock hardware on air but everyone is different i guess. have fun!
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/05/22 12:54:18 (permalink)
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    I have myself been looking for options in sufficiently ‘air-cooling’ a Z690 Dark Kingpin! Unfortunately not many specific recommendations or actual experiences have been posted to-date nor found. 



    it's a board made for oc and extreme oc. seems bizarre to me that anyone would spend $800+ on a board they're going to use to run stock hardware on air but everyone is different i guess. have fun!


     
    agreed!

    i got sooo lucky after realizing how true ^^ is. then as a result, realizing and remembering to, get the Classified version's extended warranty... and how it was money-way-better-spent (because of my use for it) than a Dark version. and when i did upgrade the included warranty, from 3 years to an extended 7 years; the total was just $720 for an EVGA z690 Classified (and 7 freaking years fully warranted w00t!!! LUV EVGA).
     
    but now-a -days, i just play games.
     
    i do understand basics of OCing. learned all the ends and outs, i'll be it was a big old 15 years ago. haven't OCed the past 6 years. but hey, 100's hours bench-marking, properly monitoring temperatures and understanding their relationship to system stability and performance; remains important (and always will) when not OCing too... OCing basics were all well worth learning.
     
    so get the EVGA's z690 Classified for non-super-OCing systems [Edit: but use an AIO for cooling, not Air, because it is very stable with AIO and i9-12900's are a warm blooded species for sure]; the Classified version for the most stable awesome performance all around, when for example: "Optimal defaults/ EMP-5600/ Resizable-Bar Enabled"... it has been the best money i ever spent in over 24 years buying PC hardware. i'm even using the original BIOS (v1.03) that came with. no reason to upgrade it. boots, runs stable 300+ hours gaming in four months; not a single problem. (i'm currently slowly mastering Cyberpunk 2077 at average 80 FPS and all Setting Maxed.)
     
     
    post edited by Bee_Dee_3_Dee - 2022/05/22 13:20:26

    > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.03 12/3/2021)
    > CPU: Intel Core i9-12900KF
    > AIO: EVGA CLC 240mm
    > Physical Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 5600
    > Physical Memory Model#: F5-5600U3636C16GX2-TZ5S
    > Monitor: Alienware AW2721D
    > Video Card: EVGA 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
    > Case: Cooler Master HAF X (942)
    > DAS: Sabrent DS-SC5B
     
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/08/15 14:40:19 (permalink)
    So, I'd like to revive this as I have a similar question. Won a z690 Classified from the 23rd anniversary, but EVGA said they were out of stock and had no ETA on when they'll be back, so they're upgrading me to a z690 Dark.
    But, now I'm concerned about the RAM clearance with my Scythe Fuma 2 with how it's on the top. I'll buy an AIO if I have to because this thing is nice, has some features beyond the OCing I'd like, and I was planning to upgrade to 12th gen anyway, so figure to use it instead of selling it, but I'd prefer to save some cost keeping my current air cooler if I can.
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/08/16 01:20:07 (permalink)
    Omniwhatever
    So, I'd like to revive this as I have a similar question. Won a z690 Classified from the 23rd anniversary, but EVGA said they were out of stock and had no ETA on when they'll be back, so they're upgrading me to a z690 Dark.
    But, now I'm concerned about the RAM clearance with my Scythe Fuma 2 with how it's on the top. I'll buy an AIO if I have to because this thing is nice, has some features beyond the OCing I'd like, and I was planning to upgrade to 12th gen anyway, so figure to use it instead of selling it, but I'd prefer to save some cost keeping my current air cooler if I can.


    well, i've never been so inclined to say, congratz! (dude)
     
    even if with all the sales drastically reducing prices of dark and classy... free is still free.
     
    as far as AIO go my 1st was installed six years ago. i asked someone about it. and they said they had used the same one, for years, and left the pump speed max and created a Fan curve for the fans. so i did too and it lasted that way for over five years if not closer to six years.
     
    luckily at that time i'd already stopped using sleep mode for my gaming PC and always shut down when PC is not in use. but don't confuse that with anything but how to properly maintain hardware, on a gaming PC overall.
     
    with my current build i decided to get a new AIO. and the one in my sig has worked flawlessly. still shut done the (this Gaming) PC when it's not in use. All basic Desktops used for internet and basic programs are fine going to sleep.
     
    so go with an AIO. they work fine. they're easy to install. if u have installed between 10 and 100's of CPU Heatsinks and Fans, then an AIO is just as easy. the exception is that an AIO needs to connect to a USB port on mobo. but that's cool because it allows reading and communication (to the PC it is on) with the AIO and its Fan. easy peasy.
     
    and ppl, aren't most all AIO Radiators all pretty much the same due to existing patents?
     
    and it's just the unique features -- bells and whistles -- that make one more desirable to one individual versus another?
     
     
    post edited by Bee_Dee_3_Dee - 2022/08/16 01:21:35

    > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.03 12/3/2021)
    > CPU: Intel Core i9-12900KF
    > AIO: EVGA CLC 240mm
    > Physical Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 5600
    > Physical Memory Model#: F5-5600U3636C16GX2-TZ5S
    > Monitor: Alienware AW2721D
    > Video Card: EVGA 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
    > Case: Cooler Master HAF X (942)
    > DAS: Sabrent DS-SC5B
     
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/08/18 15:10:26 (permalink)
    NH-U12A Chromax [superior] and NH-D15 Chromax [inferior]. These are the best air coolers on the market as of today.

    mobo: EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N, 121-AL-E699-KR | bios: 1.14 | cpu: Intel® Core™ i9-12900T Processor | vga:  Nvidia GeForce RTX™ 3090 Ti Founders Edition | ram:  DOMINATOR® PLATINUM RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 DRAM 6600MHz C32 Memory Kit — Black [SKU CMT32GX5M2X6600C32] | nvme ssd: Samsung 980 PRO NVMe™ M.2 SSD 1 TB & Samsung 980 PRO NVMe™ M.2 SSD 2 TB  | psu:  Asus ROG THOR 1000P2 GAMING cooler: Asus ROG RYUJIN II 360  | monitor #1: 31.5'' 4K OLED Display with Pixel Dimming and 1M : 1 Contrast Ratio [32EP950-B] | monitor #2: EIZO FlexScan EV2795-BK | mouse: Logitech Master 3S | keyboard: Logitech MX Mechanical + MX Palm Rest
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/09/25 02:57:23 (permalink)
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    NH-U12A Chromax [superior] and NH-D15 Chromax [inferior]. These are the best air coolers on the market as of today.



    I think you have that backwards, the D15 is superior to the U12A, especially under stress testing and/or overclocking. Of course a lot depends on your cases air flow.
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/09/25 08:55:05 (permalink)
    JohntasticusNH-U12A Chromax [superior] and NH-D15 Chromax [inferior]. These are the best air coolers on the market as of today.
     
    No I don't. Installed dozens of NH-D14, NH-D15 and NH-D15 Chromax and over two dozens of U12A and U12A Chromax and U12A is superior due to Sterrox fans [You can ofc. apply these to NH-D15/Chromax too], bigger cold plate area [You don't have this on NH-D15], more heatpipes on U12A [7 vs. 6], better contact with heatpipes on newer U12A, higher fin density and bigger overall cooling area of U12A.

    At this case, the bigger the better doesn't apply. Ofc. when You have bigger case with extreme airflow, D15 can be on par, but it'll never be on par regarding noise levels, etc. due to Sterrox vs. standard Noctua fans. Again, You can rig D15 with Sterrox and that's that.



    mobo: EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N, 121-AL-E699-KR | bios: 1.14 | cpu: Intel® Core™ i9-12900T Processor | vga:  Nvidia GeForce RTX™ 3090 Ti Founders Edition | ram:  DOMINATOR® PLATINUM RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 DRAM 6600MHz C32 Memory Kit — Black [SKU CMT32GX5M2X6600C32] | nvme ssd: Samsung 980 PRO NVMe™ M.2 SSD 1 TB & Samsung 980 PRO NVMe™ M.2 SSD 2 TB  | psu:  Asus ROG THOR 1000P2 GAMING cooler: Asus ROG RYUJIN II 360  | monitor #1: 31.5'' 4K OLED Display with Pixel Dimming and 1M : 1 Contrast Ratio [32EP950-B] | monitor #2: EIZO FlexScan EV2795-BK | mouse: Logitech Master 3S | keyboard: Logitech MX Mechanical + MX Palm Rest
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/09/25 10:11:47 (permalink)
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    JohntasticusNH-U12A Chromax [superior] and NH-D15 Chromax [inferior]. These are the best air coolers on the market as of today.
     
    No I don't. Installed dozens of NH-D14, NH-D15 and NH-D15 Chromax and over two dozens of U12A and U12A Chromax and U12A is superior due to Sterrox fans [You can ofc. apply these to NH-D15/Chromax too], bigger cold plate area [You don't have this on NH-D15], more heatpipes on U12A [7 vs. 6], better contact with heatpipes on newer U12A, higher fin density and bigger overall cooling area of U12A.

    At this case, the bigger the better doesn't apply. Ofc. when You have bigger case with extreme airflow, D15 can be on par, but it'll never be on par regarding noise levels, etc. due to Sterrox vs. standard Noctua fans. Again, You can rig D15 with Sterrox and that's that.

     
    I appreciate the explanation, goes against quite a bit that I've seen online, but real world experience from someone experienced with both over spreadsheets from someone doing a one time test, I trust a lot more. I'll give it a shot
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/09/25 10:19:44 (permalink)
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    I appreciate the explanation, goes against quite a bit that I've seen online, but real world experience from someone experienced with both over spreadsheets from someone doing a one time test, I trust a lot more. I'll give it a shot.
    If You went with NH-D15 Chromax + Sterrox fans in front and middle and maybe in the back and were in HAF [high air flow] case with Sterrox fans installed in system, You'd prolly be on par, and maybe a bit better with NH-D15.

    The biggest game changer in U12A is noise. You can ramp fans up to 900 - 1200 rpm and be at noise levels of NF-A15 HS-PWM when it's at let's say 600 - 800 rpm. Meaning You can have really higher airflow with Sterrox.

    If Noctua made NH-D15 Sterrox Chromax with let's say 8 - 9 heatpipes and higher density fins, it would totally rule...even with 120mm Sterroxes, no need for bigger ones, although, 140 - 150mm would do a lot better [there are none as of yet].



     

    mobo: EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N, 121-AL-E699-KR | bios: 1.14 | cpu: Intel® Core™ i9-12900T Processor | vga:  Nvidia GeForce RTX™ 3090 Ti Founders Edition | ram:  DOMINATOR® PLATINUM RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 DRAM 6600MHz C32 Memory Kit — Black [SKU CMT32GX5M2X6600C32] | nvme ssd: Samsung 980 PRO NVMe™ M.2 SSD 1 TB & Samsung 980 PRO NVMe™ M.2 SSD 2 TB  | psu:  Asus ROG THOR 1000P2 GAMING cooler: Asus ROG RYUJIN II 360  | monitor #1: 31.5'' 4K OLED Display with Pixel Dimming and 1M : 1 Contrast Ratio [32EP950-B] | monitor #2: EIZO FlexScan EV2795-BK | mouse: Logitech Master 3S | keyboard: Logitech MX Mechanical + MX Palm Rest
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/09/25 10:32:37 (permalink)
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    Johntasticus 
    I appreciate the explanation, goes against quite a bit that I've seen online, but real world experience from someone experienced with both over spreadsheets from someone doing a one time test, I trust a lot more. I'll give it a shot.
    If You went with NH-D15 Chromax + Sterrox fans in front and middle and maybe in the back and were in HAF [high air flow] case with Sterrox fans installed in system, You'd prolly be on par, and maybe a bit better with NH-D15.

    The biggest game changer in U12A is noise. You can ramp fans up to 900 - 1200 rpm and be at noise levels of NF-A15 HS-PWM when it's at let's say 600 - 800 rpm. Meaning You can have really higher airflow with Sterrox.

    If Noctua made NH-D15 Sterrox Chromax with let's say 8 - 9 heatpipes and higher density fins, it would totally rule...even with 120mm Sterroxes, no need for bigger ones, although, 140 - 150mm would do a lot better [there are none as of yet].

     
    I'm getting ready to order it on Amazon but then I started looking AIO's as well, I am against having liquid in my computer case but again most of what I've seen online, specifically with my case Lian Li Lancool II Mesh, show a significant drop in CPU temps (i7-2700k). If you don't mind, would you share your thoughts on the subject of AIO vs Air.
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    Re: Best Aircooler for The Z690 DARK K|NGP|N 2022/09/25 10:50:13 (permalink)
    JohntasticusI'm getting ready to order it on Amazon but then I started looking AIO's as well, I am against having liquid in my computer case but again most of what I've seen online, specifically with my case Lian Li Lancool II Mesh, show a significant drop in CPU temps (i7-2700k). If you don't mind, would you share your thoughts on the subject of AIO vs Air.
    Sure thing mate. It's actually quite easy. 280 with fat rad or Corsair [h115i Elite and all of them, Apellix, RGB or LCD Display/Cooler Master ML280L will beat NH-D15/U12A, but...

    They're noisy, really noisy (waterpump). I'm using Asetek 7th or maybe even 8th gen AiO Asus ROG Ryujin II 360, but it's all looks and almost no bite.

    Air is air, it's super solid, many AiO's will beat air, when You have leveled surface on Your cold plate of CPU/pump block, when You install it correctly, Noctua pretty much can't be installed in a bad way, etc. etc. etc.

    I have AiO, because it's pretty, if I wanted raw performance, I'd go after custom loop as I've had before, but I was getting algae in every loop I built, so I gave up.

    If You have a good piece of 12700K (well soldered), I'd say go for U12A, if You want some heavy OC headroom, Your only choice is 320 AiO, 280 will be on par or slightly better compared to Noctua and a lot noisier in low loads due to pump noise.


    Huge advantage of custom loop is, that when You put there Laing D5 [pretty much a golden standard pump for custom loop builders], You can tune it to a sweet spot, since it's PWM controlled. You can try to do the same with AiO, most of them have controllable pump speeds, but...it's a risk. E.g. I can't get solid silence with my Ryujin II 360, couldn't get it with Ryujin I 360, nor EK Elite 360 Aurum, nor any other before besides one, which is discontinued, the best AiO I've had in my life [EK Predator 360]. They had massive QA/QC issues so they were pulled back from the market. Also Phoenix MLC was great, but it was also discontinued due to low interest from the side of EKWB customers.
     
    So if You want to try AiO, go for it, just stay with tried ones. I know that them NZXT are flashy and shiny, also Asus, MSi, etc. but if You want heavy utility, go for Corsair, or Cooler Master. All of the AiOs use Asetek pumps, so it's always only a thing of engineering on the side of manufacturer. If You want some AiO, lemme know, I can help You chose some.


    Your case will pretty much gobble up anything You throw at her, so You just need to watch out for those clearances and not go for a fat rad.


    P.S.: In case of 360 rad in front, You NEED to keep the airflow high, ideal would be sandwiching the rad, or having at least 3x Sterrox in front of the radiator [not pull, but push through] running @ 800rpm in idle, so the heat from rad won't linger inside Your PC. If You stayed with 240mm on top, You can opt for lower rpm on fans, but there Noctua would do better job compared to 240mm AiO.
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    mobo: EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N, 121-AL-E699-KR | bios: 1.14 | cpu: Intel® Core™ i9-12900T Processor | vga:  Nvidia GeForce RTX™ 3090 Ti Founders Edition | ram:  DOMINATOR® PLATINUM RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 DRAM 6600MHz C32 Memory Kit — Black [SKU CMT32GX5M2X6600C32] | nvme ssd: Samsung 980 PRO NVMe™ M.2 SSD 1 TB & Samsung 980 PRO NVMe™ M.2 SSD 2 TB  | psu:  Asus ROG THOR 1000P2 GAMING cooler: Asus ROG RYUJIN II 360  | monitor #1: 31.5'' 4K OLED Display with Pixel Dimming and 1M : 1 Contrast Ratio [32EP950-B] | monitor #2: EIZO FlexScan EV2795-BK | mouse: Logitech Master 3S | keyboard: Logitech MX Mechanical + MX Palm Rest
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