Hard to believe but I'll be passing on 2080Ti. I've had top of stack for each iteration since 6800 Ultra. With results like this it's too hard to justify the cost of admission and too easy to keep my 1080TI/s. Funny how SLI is dead and now the single best card is double the price. The only losers here are gamers. 

owcraftsman
Hard to believe but I'll be passing on 2080Ti. I've had top of stack for each iteration since 6800 Ultra. With results like this it's too hard to justify the cost of admission and too easy to keep my 1080TI/s. Funny how SLI is dead and now the single best card is double the price. The only losers here are gamers. 

Yeah but dude , what about the sweet lighted granules you'll miss out on  ??   
 
 
Seriously though,  I can see this being awesome in the Single Player games, like Metro and such,  but having it in BF where the action is supposed to be fast & intense Multiplay , where reaction time is crucial , it is a waste of frames.

You're keeping track of emitters, paths, bounces and scattering on virtual particles.  How many do you think can be active at once?
 
Developers are going to have to pick and choose parts of the scene to use the tech on.  At this point I don't think they are, they're more interested in showing off how beautiful the tech can be.
 
It will get better with future games (and next years cards, lol).
 
As for me, I'm more excited about DLSS being incorporated into older games via reshade or something.
Edit: I can't english sometimes. ._.

2080 ~ 60 FPS at 1440p DXR Low and 2070 ~ 60 FPS 1080p DXR Low.
 
Nice, looks like I'll be using DXR for the single player.

29.4 fps!?! Glad I didn't buy my cards for DXR. I just bought them for the pure speed increase in rasterization. 

Cool GTX
where are the SLI RTX 2080 Ti  results ?

Sajin
29.4 fps!?! Glad I didn't buy my cards for DXR. I just bought them for the pure speed increase in rasterization. 

Just found this on FB. There is no SLI profile, so 33fps so far:

nesbit

owcraftsman
Hard to believe but I'll be passing on 2080Ti. I've had top of stack for each iteration since 6800 Ultra. With results like this it's too hard to justify the cost of admission and too easy to keep my 1080TI/s. Funny how SLI is dead and now the single best card is double the price. The only losers here are gamers. 

Excluding RTX, isn't there still a 30 ish % increase in existing games and games without RTX?  

The RTX series is still being viewed as getting less than we ever had in previous year in performance per dollar. For instance, I bought my GTX 970 FTW in 2015 for $330, the previous 770 GTX was $329, performance increases was about 30% or so probably based on online searches, and at about the same price point. Now, we have some other things that have happened that have fluctuated prices quite a bit (cough crypto).  But a 1070 came out @ an MSRP of 380, for another roughly 30% increase in performance with marginal and acceptable price increase. 
 
We can't ignore the fact that they have made increases in technology and showing off what might be capable here. Its a turning point in where maybe PC gaming is going to show case high end graphics rather than raw performance numbers that we love to see.
 
Now the real question is, is it enough for me to upgrade from my 970...

No sli :(

So once again DICE sucks and can't code.
 
NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE!!! 
 

 

This is still Physx all over in my opinion.
It’s still to early for this to be good and it’s pure eye candy for the people who have cash.
It will get better over time and will run better, just not now.

zeroseoul

nesbit

owcraftsman
Hard to believe but I'll be passing on 2080Ti. I've had top of stack for each iteration since 6800 Ultra. With results like this it's too hard to justify the cost of admission and too easy to keep my 1080TI/s. Funny how SLI is dead and now the single best card is double the price. The only losers here are gamers. 

Excluding RTX, isn't there still a 30 ish % increase in existing games and games without RTX?  

The RTX series is still being viewed as getting less than we ever had in previous year in performance per dollar. For instance, I bought my GTX 970 FTW in 2015 for $330, the previous 770 GTX was $329, performance increases was about 30% or so probably based on online searches, and at about the same price point. Now, we have some other things that have happened that have fluctuated prices quite a bit (cough crypto).  But a 1070 came out @ an MSRP of 380, for another roughly 30% increase in performance with marginal and acceptable price increase. 
 
We can't ignore the fact that they have made increases in technology and showing off what might be capable here. Its a turning point in where maybe PC gaming is going to show case high end graphics rather than raw performance numbers that we love to see.
 
Now the real question is, is it enough for me to upgrade from my 970...

1/2 baked RTX aside, If a card at this price can't consistently exceed 60 FPS @ 4k, in other words, lowest FPS at 60 or above with all AAA games it is not worth upgrading. We've been promised this for 5 years and they still haven't consistently delivered. I guess I'm tired of being the ginney pig. Look at what supporting them with SLI got us, at least before you could double up the cards to get the FPS you wanted now it's too complicated so they double the price of their top card... BS Next they'll be telling us RTX won't work with Gsync after we've paid the extra cash for a monitor to utilize it.   They are riding enthusiast gamers hard and putting us up wet. If they cared about you or me they would find a way to cut the cost of game development which is a whole other rant.   

owcraftsman
 

1/2 baked RTX aside, If a card at this price can't consistently exceed 60 FPS @ 4k, in other words, lowest FPS at 60 or above with all AAA games it is not worth upgrading. We've been promised this for 5 years and they still haven't consistently delivered. I guess I'm tired of being the ginney pig. Look at what supporting them with SLI got us, at least before you could double up the cards to get the FPS you wanted now it's too complicated so they double the price of their top card... BS Next they'll be telling us RTX won't work with Gsync after we've paid the extra cash for a monitor to utilize it.   They are riding enthusiast gamers hard and putting us up wet. If they cared about you or me they would find a way to cut the cost of game development which is a whole other rant.   

What were you promissed for 5 years?

Hoggle
It's what I expected. The first generation we will only really have RTX for single player games. That said I see a lot of promise in the technology as the videos look great.

It doesn't have anything to do with single or multi, it's client side performance. We need 7nm to get double the RT cores and some speed up on other parts of the GPU (20-30% clock would help a lot), by next gen (hopefully late 2019). That would make 1440 playable at 60+ FPS.

toncij

fearpoint
So once again DICE sucks and can't code.
 
NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE!!! 
 

 

That is a joke or...?

DICE is a joke, yes.
 
 
 
 

toncij

fearpoint

toncij

fearpoint
So once again DICE sucks and can't code.
 
NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE!!! 
 

 

That is a joke or...?

DICE is a joke, yes.
 
 
 
 

Not sure what's your point, aside from being clueless? :)
Yes, it's a video game, an fps, not a skiing simulator. And that has nothing to do with your original comment.

They are incredibly lazy and make bad games. The video shows it. They can't implement anything correctly in their games from Mantle to ray tracing. 
 
Keep defending the indefensible though. That's working out great.