I hear a bunch of women screaming/yelling.
 
So much for the WW2 setting. 
 
 

ILikeBeans

 
I honestly don't know what to think of all this.
 
As for the women sounds, I guess there were actually a number of infantry women groups in WW2 although not common. I at least hope that you can pick character gender because while I know there are males that would like to sound like woman, I myself would find it much less immersive. I do play Tomb Raider though, but that's 3rd person... IDK it's just a game man! For women gamers though, I'm sure it's a welcome feature.

They'll force it like they did in Battlefield 1 which was an absolute circus show.

very interesting....so instead of stabbing you to get your tags, i can slap you and pull your hair to get them so sweet!
 
 
 
 
P.S.:

There is a Hitler reacts to Battlefield V video on youtube, lol.

ILikeBeans
Hitler is just a cry baby 

Did you watch the video?
 

 

kram36

ILikeBeans
Hitler is just a cry baby 

Did you watch the video?
 

 

yes :D lol and all the haters are making that young women cry :D shame shame but yah, Hitler a cry baby getting his ars wooped by women... that actually makes me want to play as a woman now.

kram36

jonkrmr
Women fighting in combat in WW2 was not that uncommon although the number of women compared to the number of men was minuscule.
Russian military enlisted women, women fought in resistance groups (although not official military).
Heck, one of Russia's most successful snipers in WW2 was a woman.

Women on the front line fighting was uncommon in WWII. Where do you get your history from?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko
http://www.businessinsider.com/lyudmila-pavlichenko-female-sniper
I think this is who he's talking about.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_World_War_II
https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/games/2018/05/yes-battlefield-v-gamers-there-were-female-soldiers-world-war-ii
 
It may be uncommon but it definitely happened.

Combat does not necessarily mean front lines.......
 
I never said women fighting on the front lines was common. I said women fighting in combat was not that uncommon. There is a difference. (refer to my first statement above)
 
And using the Soviet Union as an example in WWII, the ratio of men to women in their military was like 99% + men to 1% or less women, but Russian women were still allowed to enlist.
 
When your country or town is being taken over by an invading enemy, everyone able to fight, fights........
 
The US never knew this directly in WWII from the European factions as they were never a direct threat to invade this country in the first place. The technology at the time was not in a place for a foreign army to directly attack and invade the Continental US.
 
The only exception was Japan and Pearl Harbor but that was a one off attack to try to scare us from officially entering the war. Japan could barely reach the Hawaiian Islands at the time let alone make it to the Pacific Coast of the US with enough forces to mount an effective attack or invasion. It obviously back fired on them. One of the Japanese military leaders even said that the attack most likely "woke a sleeping giant". And they were right. It pissed the US citizens off and changed their opinion on entering the war and the US fired up big time in military production because of it. And after the war, that ramp up of factory production for the war effort is what helped make the US a world economic power.
 
 
Welcome to the here and know of the state of political correctness and every one wanting their fair share of equality. It is just a game for peat sake, if any of you don't like the fact that women characters are in it, don't buy it and play it. Simple. Stop whining and complaining about it.

Who said the game was supposed to be perfectly historically accurate in the first place?
 
Really, that would not be a very fun game. War situations for the most part in WWII are soldiers on bases (makeshift or otherwise) waiting for orders to the front line\combat area with relatively short periods of shear terror in actual combat in those areas. March 50-100 miles to this place and then fight the enemy there. Or citizens in the towns\cities being bombed from overhead every day.
 
It is a game and games primarily are meant to be entertaining.
 
It is a first person shooter game set in a WWII environment and theme, nothing more.
 
 

There apparently was an entire woman infantry squad, I believe Russian, anyway it's been an interesting history lesson for me too. The woman in the game I believe is based on an actual Norwegian sniper. I'd like to learn more about that as well. Speaking just on that I know it's over done, but holy cow people it's just a game, and not even a sim at that. Those peeps are waaaay over reacting on this subject IMO. I mean there weren't zombie's in WWII either, yah know...

ILikeBeans
There apparently was an entire woman infantry squad, I believe Russian, anyway it's been an interesting history lesson for me too. The woman in the game I believe is based on an actual Norwegian sniper. I'd like to learn more about that as well. Speaking just on that I know it's over done, but holy cow people it's just a game, and not even a sim at that. Those peeps are waaaay over reacting on this subject IMO. I mean there weren't zombie's in WWII either, yah know...

Again, my point exactly. Its' a game and meant to be entertaining and also reach as big a demographic as possible from a sales aspect.

jonkrmr
@kram36 - I will make one last statement to you about your statement to me about snipers not fighting on the "front lines" and then shut up and go away.
 
It was VERY common for the Germans in WWII to place snipers in the high buildings in towns they were holding when the allied forces were approaching them and take out as many allied soldiers as possible when they where sweeping those towns clearing out the remaining German soldiers as their forces were retreating from them and then try to scurry away and catch back up with their retreating forces before they themselves got taken out.

He's 100% correct though. Women were not a force in WW2 except in the supply chain of manufacturing and behind lines. No amount of anecdotal examples of a couple of people that may have fought in a war that consisted of millions of fighters that counter that premise will change that fact. What DICE is trying to do here to not only marginalize the most significantly involved during the war that changed everything, but, also falsely portraying a revisionist history agenda in which female combatants were significant in any manner which is hilarious absurd to the point including them in the game in which pitched battles were common place is obviously propaganda. The example we've seen of the English amputee female sniper was insulting stupid, historically false, and incredibly misleading for a game supposedly set in a historic setting. 
 
Hopefully I'm long dead before dumb game developers come back to the war on terror setting and replace me and my friends from it because we didn't meet meet the modern diversity marketing quota.

fearpoint

jonkrmr
@kram36 - I will make one last statement to you about your statement to me about snipers not fighting on the "front lines" and then shut up and go away.
 
It was VERY common for the Germans in WWII to place snipers in the high buildings in towns they were holding when the allied forces were approaching them and take out as many allied soldiers as possible when they where sweeping those towns clearing out the remaining German soldiers as their forces were retreating from them and then try to scurry away and catch back up with their retreating forces before they themselves got taken out.

He's 100% correct though. Women were not a force in WW2 except in the supply chain of manufacturing and behind lines. No amount of anecdotal examples of a couple of people that may have fought in a war that consisted of millions of fighters that counter that premise will change that fact. What DICE is trying to do here to not only marginalize the most significantly involved during the war that changed everything, but, also falsely portraying a revisionist history agenda in which female combatants were significant in any manner which is hilarious absurd to the point including them in the game in which pitched battles were common place is obviously propaganda. The example we've seen of the English amputee female sniper was insulting stupid, historically false, and incredibly misleading for a game supposedly set in a historic setting. 
 
Hopefully I'm long dead before dumb game developers come back to the war on terror setting and replace me and my friends from it because we didn't meet meet the modern diversity marketing quota.

Look, I was not saying women fighting in WWII were a force. I was merely stating that there were women who fought in combat in WWII.
 
The Western allies (US, UK, etc) looked on women as they should be in the house having babies and cooking and cleaning. That was the mentality back them. Women were allowed to work behind the scenes because all the men were off fighting the war so someone needed to work in the factories and supply chain to make and deliver all the planes, tanks, guns and ammunition for them. But in Russia it was different. Russia being a socialist republic was every man, women and child need to do their part for the good of all and the country. That is what the basis of a socialist republic is. They allowed women to enlist in the army because of that. How many actually did so was very small.
 
The portrayal of the women in the game is off, yes. Bad, yes. An insult, probably. This isn't the first time this kind of stuff has happened from a game developer in a game.
That wasn't my point.
The game was never meant to be an accurate simulation of WWII. It is a FPS that is supposed to entertain. Also, they are trying to widen the gamer demographic to include more women gamers (they are out there you know).
 
Did it, will it work? Who knows. It sure seems to have upset a lot of the male gamers out there.
 
All I was saying in the first place really was women did fight in combat in WWII. Were they a force? No, but I never said they were. Even ILikeBeans stated that there was an entire infantry squad of women.
 
kram36 questioned my history on the matter, I was only defending myself. Both of my grandfathers fought in Europe in WWII (god rest their souls). One of them even got a Purple Heart from a wound he received from a German sniper while sweeping a town in France "on the front lines".
 
Also @fearpoint, it was more than a "couple" of women that fought in combat in WWII. It might not have been millions, but is was in the thousands when you look at the grand scope of how many soldiers fought in that war over the 6 years it went on.

jonkrmr

ILikeBeans
It wasn't a couple, it was hundreds of thousands in combat roles. There were pilots, squads... stuff I never knew.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_combat
 
I just don't understand the reactions in this case. These games haven't had such a reaction that I recall. As mentioned, I don't remember a big deal with Zombies, or the accuracy of Nazi's in Wolfenstien, or a million other things in these types of games, but for some reason in this case a large amount of males are having there manhood attacked. That's how it's coming across to me, lol. Way to much emotional over reaction.
 
There are anti gaming groups out there saying stuff like these games are bad because it's going to make someone go shoot someone else. Well yah, If someone can't see that it's just a game and they are emotionally disturbed by it, they shouldn't play it. The same thing goes in this case. If people can't see that this is a game and not literal history lesson, they shouldn't play it, but why be haters? We haven't even played the game yet and there probably will be lagit things to hate, but not this Just my opinion.

@ILikeBeans
 
I think it is just the all boys club mentality of the computer\gaming culture. I work in IT and have seen the same thing over the last 20 years of my career in IT.

No, it's the inaccurate history of WWII that's the issue.