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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
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Looks like a setting for guinny pigs who wanna test new options. I get out of my setup, what i am paying for now, and seems to deliver a much better
experfience than i thought at first, even being with a platform, that most seem to think is on its way out, which i think is about as good as x58 was,
Intel doesn't offer anything over 10 cores , but whats on this platform, X299, so yea, we need alot more eyes focused on this since its intels only
platform supporting more then 10 cores.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/29 16:28:07
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Wow, this is a stressful option to deal with. So what is CSM? and if not setup right, can brock your GPU?
CSM is the Compatibility Support Module. It's basically the bridge between running your MB and Windows in UEFI mode and legacy hardware that may not natively support UEFI. With CSM enabled, you can usually still take advantage of older hardware and keep the benefits of using Windows in UEFI; otherwise, the device may not show up in Windows or appear usable at all.
Changing CSM settings would have no means of damaging a graphics card. The most it will usually do is cause a hang while booting or cause a crash while trying to enter Windows if there's a compatibility issue. Both issues are fixable by either resetting the BIOS or entering the BIOS and reverting the changes you made to CSM.
But what about the issues with Radeon 6000 series GPU's, CSM on GFX go nuts and off is error 92? The whole idea of using Resizable Bar is useless atm? Ironicly the only family of GPU's supprting it right now.
@Kram, yes that could do it I guess, but as I'm not sure what (settings) causes the issue with my RX6900XT, I reverted right back.
I'm quite dissapointed that it turns out this way.
I've asked our team to look into this.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/29 19:16:20
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As I have a 6800XT right now, I'll gladly be a beta tester for a new version of the bios to see if it works when you guys put something together for a fix!
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/30 02:57:14
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I've asked our team to look into this.
Thanks :)
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After updating top this BIOS on the X299 Dark I am now getting a 4 beep POST code when I boot with any settings. I've tried loading defaults and it still happens. These beeps are different than the USB beeps, I have tried enabling and disabling those and if they are enabled I get those as well so its definitely a POST code. In looking at the manual and it says 4 beeps indicates that "some of the architectural protocols are not available". Not sure what that means. But I didn't have any POST code before the BIOS update and I made no other changes, but the system seems to be working fine. Anyone have an idea what this means?
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/30 08:43:57
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After updating top this BIOS on the X299 Dark I am now getting a 4 beep POST code when I boot with any settings. I've tried loading defaults and it still happens. These beeps are different than the USB beeps, I have tried enabling and disabling those and if they are enabled I get those as well so its definitely a POST code. In looking at the manual and it says 4 beeps indicates that "some of the architectural protocols are not available". Not sure what that means. But I didn't have any POST code before the BIOS update and I made no other changes, but the system seems to be working fine. Anyone have an idea what this means?
If you have a 30 series card, you get extra beeps on boot until you disable CSM.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/30 10:39:07
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After updating top this BIOS on the X299 Dark I am now getting a 4 beep POST code when I boot with any settings. I've tried loading defaults and it still happens. These beeps are different than the USB beeps, I have tried enabling and disabling those and if they are enabled I get those as well so its definitely a POST code. In looking at the manual and it says 4 beeps indicates that "some of the architectural protocols are not available". Not sure what that means. But I didn't have any POST code before the BIOS update and I made no other changes, but the system seems to be working fine. Anyone have an idea what this means?
There are two types of beeps one can get on boot that I know of: One is enumeration of USB devices and number varies based on how many devices there is. Other one (four beeps) is when system believes monitor is not connected to video card (whether not connected, powered off, or on wrong input).
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/30 12:25:55
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After updating top this BIOS on the X299 Dark I am now getting a 4 beep POST code when I boot with any settings. I've tried loading defaults and it still happens. These beeps are different than the USB beeps, I have tried enabling and disabling those and if they are enabled I get those as well so its definitely a POST code. In looking at the manual and it says 4 beeps indicates that "some of the architectural protocols are not available". Not sure what that means. But I didn't have any POST code before the BIOS update and I made no other changes, but the system seems to be working fine. Anyone have an idea what this means?
If you have a 30 series card, you get extra beeps on boot until you disable CSM.
That fixed it. Thank you. I guess I forgot to disable CSM after redoing my settings after the BIOS update.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/30 12:31:31
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After updating top this BIOS on the X299 Dark I am now getting a 4 beep POST code when I boot with any settings. I've tried loading defaults and it still happens. These beeps are different than the USB beeps, I have tried enabling and disabling those and if they are enabled I get those as well so its definitely a POST code. In looking at the manual and it says 4 beeps indicates that "some of the architectural protocols are not available". Not sure what that means. But I didn't have any POST code before the BIOS update and I made no other changes, but the system seems to be working fine. Anyone have an idea what this means?
If you have a 30 series card, you get extra beeps on boot until you disable CSM.
That fixed it. Thank you. I guess I forgot to disable CSM after redoing my settings after the BIOS update.
That is great to know!
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/30 16:13:13
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So, should this thing be on or off? and what is default? and I use modern everything, no legacy items are used in config.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/30 16:21:48
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So, should this thing be on or off? and what is default? and I use modern everything, no legacy items are used in config.
Which thing? CSM? That depends on your system. If you have hardware OR operating system that doesn't play nice when it is disabled (for example, some versions of Linux didn't like it off when I tried to install them) then it will need to be enabled. However, if you have both hardware and OS that work fine with it disabled you won't be having issues by leaving it enabled (which is a default), it is not mandatory to disable it. I have disabled it in mine because I use Secure Boot and disabling CSM is requirement for Secure Boot. I've tested system extensively with CSM disabled and haven't experienced any issues.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/30 17:10:58
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I am not having any issues with system or os, so if its on or off, o have no idea, and something or sometimes, if you don't know about something, and enabling or
disabling something effects your stuff. I leave it be since it never bothered me beofre.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
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post edited by Biosat - 2021/01/31 00:38:56
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2021/01/31 01:07:02
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I know what can happen, if you turn of this CSM Module, since i first installed this system last week. I am using a GTx 1080TI FTW3 so i will not flash my bios to 1.26.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/31 11:37:31
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Just updated my X299 FTW and it still ignores the % setting for the PWR(VRM) fan on cold starts. It always starts at 100%(~8400RPM) and I have to power off for at least 12s after the BIOS hits A0 in order for my 20% setting to take effect. This has been the norm for me since I built this system just over a year ago starting w/ the first BIOS that supported Cascade Lake X.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/31 16:26:10
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So, according to my UEFI setup, CSM is enabled for some reason, even with updated bios, when its suppose to be disabled. I am affraid to
diable it, since i hear stories of it hosing OS, and the guy says he used Secure boot. in sysinfo32, it says its off, so if i disable CSM, and enable
secure boot, am i gonna hose my install? of 10
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/31 17:47:59
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So, according to my UEFI setup, CSM is enabled for some reason, even with updated bios, when its suppose to be disabled. I am affraid to
diable it, since i hear stories of it hosing OS, and the guy says he used Secure boot. in sysinfo32, it says its off, so if i disable CSM, and enable
secure boot, am i gonna hose my install? of 10
1. I did not use Win10 UEFI Setup to validate status of my CSM, but when I disabled it in BIOS it -did- disable it. 2. One does not need to enable Secure Boot once CSM is disabled. You can have CSM disabled without Secure Boot enabled. However, if you want/need to enable secure boot then you must have CSM disabled. 3. Enabling Secure Boot will -NOT- hose Win10 install. I've switched back and forth more than once and it all keeps working. 4. If you don't need Secure Boot / don't know how to correctly enable it I suggest you leave things alone at default and be done.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
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Will "Resizable Bar" support work with the 7980XE? I know Intel stated it'd be available on select 10th and 11th Gen CPUs, but seeing as there's literally no difference in architecture, I can't see why the 7xxx and 9xxx series HEDT CPUs wouldn't recieve it.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/31 18:54:54
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I've run into another interesting bug with this BIOS update:
If I have UEFI only, no CSM at all enabled, and I hard restart my PC (in windows or before windows is loading) - it will often revert to CSM on, even though I had disabled it.
I'll try saving my settings to a save slot again - that may or may not help.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/31 19:25:45
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Thats good to hear, so disable it will not effect my bootup, what about performance in games?
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/31 19:45:47
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Thats good to hear, so disable it will not effect my bootup, what about performance in games?
Disabling does not affect boot of -MY- setup. My setup has Fast Boot off, Windows 7 Installation disabled, and drive uses GPT. I haven't seen performance difference in my benchmarks but that can't be taken as a guarantee. Considering it is easy to go back/forth maybe you should try it yourself.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/31 19:50:44
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Yea, Thats good, Not sure why its even an option, but the bar thing seem to have some relationship to it. I
These must be for compatibilitie modes, i don't run win7, or ancient hardware, so why is this garbage even an
option?
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/31 19:52:30
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I think yes, i had this when i first installed my evga x299 Dark last week with an 7900X. when i disabled the module my, a few minutes ready installed windows couldn´t boot anymore. I installed an optane module before which made the whole thing worser, i think. But with or without optane you have to install windows new. But with the optane the installation was stopped by the bios by 99% and this about 50 times, maybe this is the same wihout. till the module is disabled, the bios stops the installation with 99 percent!!! i was near to suffering. than i took out the optane, took another SSd( the installation said that my installation stick was defekt) aktivated the module and it worked. The SSd i tried to install windows had about 20 partitions, propably, i thought that it was over for this ssd, it disappeared many times after i formated it and initialized it new. Booting, SSd gone! And i knew nothing about the behaviour of this module. i was near to taking my pc to a shop. -but there is no shop which can help when i don´t know anymore to do.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/31 20:02:59
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I think yes, i had this when i first installed my evga x299 Dark last week with an 7900X. when i disabled the module my, a few minutes ready installed windows couldn´t boot anymore. I installed an optane module before which made the whole thing worser, i think. But with or without optane you have to install windows new. But with the optane the installation was stopped by the bios by 99% and this about 50 times, maybe this is the same wihout. till the module is disabled, the bios stops the installation with 99 percent!!! i was near to suffering. than i took out the optane, took another SSd( the installation said that my installation stick was defekt) aktivated the module and it worked. The SSd i tried to install windows had about 20 partitions, propably, i thought that it was over for this ssd, it disappeared many times after i formated it and initialized it new. Booting, SSd gone! And i knew nothing about the behaviour of this module. i was near to taking my pc to a shop. -but there is no shop which can help when i don´t know anymore to do.
As far as I know enabling CSM should not result in boot problems with GPT drives. At least it did not for me. Early on I installed Windows while CSM was enabled and later switched it to disabled and no boot problems. Since then I have switched many times back and forth on 5 various drives across two machines and didn't have problem booting even once.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/31 20:08:37
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Yea, Thats good, Not sure why its even an option, but the bar thing seem to have some relationship to it. I
These must be for compatibilitie modes, i don't run win7, or ancient hardware, so why is this garbage even an
option?
It is left as an option for those that might for some reason need it (for example, booting into Win7 has been left as an option for those that chase overclocking records or badly need to run some program that doesn't run on Win10). Personally I like it when companies leave an option to do something for those of us that might need it, even if we are a majority, rather than leaving us abandoned behind.
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/01/31 20:50:18
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Cool cool. Thanks yea. I just leave it on its default, for a reason enabled.
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Anything x299 will support resizable bar from EVGA as of now. Only RTX 3000 series from Nvidia has BAR support coming soon. The VBIOS of the card must support it, and the motherboard and the CPU. So far for anyone on Nvidia we are waiting for support from Nvidia. Go contact Nvidia if you want support on graphic cards all the way back to GTX 900 series or so as they are capable, but Nvidia, must enable it driver and release a bios update or EVGA graphic cards need vbios update and must be in talks with Nvidia. This should sum it up for all of your questions. For those who do not want to upgrade, that is fine, I updated even though I am a GTX 1080 TI SLI user, because I hope Nvidia release an update for 10 series and older cards. This feature has been open since PCIE 2.0 slots though needed the software support. Now please just do some googling half of you for simple questions like this. Thanks.
When you install windows you either install it with CSM on or OFF. Changing it way after the install can cause issues. This update was the post under me
So far AMD 6000 series is the only cards that support it as of writing this, but CSM must be off and Windows must be installed with CSM off when you first installed windows 10. Yes that means a fresh install for some of you who will ask later. Though the 6000 series has an issue with CSM OFF and 4G decode for BAR on. So the only solution for 6000 series error 92 is to turn on CSM and no BAR and no 4G for now. Simple
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So, it seems a fresh install is needed to confirm that CSM is disabled or enabled? I am not gonna bother changing it, since i don't see any
benefit to this.
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So, it seems a fresh install is needed to confirm that CSM is disabled or enabled? I am not gonna bother changing it, since i don't see any
benefit to this.
No, not at all: If you disable CSM and windows won't boot, yes a fresh windows install with CSM disabled would likely be needed so you can get BAR support. However, you can easily re-enable CSM in the BIOS and windows will then boot again should it fail to boot with CSM disabled. You only lose out on not knowing whether or not it will work, and that 1% or so performance increase with BAR support and Nvidia 30 series cards (when the VBIOS update and driver support happens) and AMD 6000 series cards (if that problem with having CSM enabled (thus BAR disabled) to have the GPU work correctly gets fixed).
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Re: BIOS Updates for X299 Dark (1.26) / FTW K (1.26) / Micro ATX 2 (1.19) / Micro ATX (1.2
2021/02/01 17:22:42
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Much thanks on the info. I will wait it out til 30 series is availble, and not sure if EVGA or Nvidia is gonna bother enabling it on 2070 supers.
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