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2018/08/01 14:14:20 (permalink)
Many thanks to my friend Declan from 2CPU Hardware & VGA cards & x-3dfx for helping me out by removing the HP OEM heatsink and it's horrendous clips xD
At first I was lost but thanks to his advice I was able to remove the default clips with my Facom Pliers, even they ended up in a million shards
The Golden Orb, a gift Kasper gave me  has been placed on the p3/EB 933 by myself, wasn't too hard actually, Intel could of made it that simple over those horrendous clips ergh...
So this is how the P3/EB 933 came to me from Germany was a nice fond for 45 euro, these seem to be quite rare as I have been reading and hearing.

Here the P3/EB 933 Slot 1 CPU with the OEM HP heatsink on it:


hear the rear side:


And the CPU info from it's side:

I had to remove that Registrations ticker to mount the Golden Orb, I Kept it with the receipt I got with it
After that I removed them clips with my Facom Pliers, since the Golden Orb is going to be it's replacement for far superior cooling.

Here the Thermaltake Golden Orb for S.E.C.C.2 Slot 1 CPU's it's an extremely rare piece, my x-3dfx & 2CPU friend Kasper gifted me this after I gifted him 3 Original EVGA GTX 480 Backplates + two EVGA GTX 580 backplates, the rarity of the items was on par more of a friend's trade, which is super cool

Top view:


Rear view:


Here the P3/EB 933 with HP Stock heatsink and the Golden Orb together:


Here the P3/933EB with the OEM HP Heatsink removed, the Coppermine CPU die cleaned and the Golden Orb is ready for placement
(after I applied Noctua NH-1 Thermal compound of course!


And here the Golden Orb mounted neatly on the P3/EB 933:


Rear view:

 
Here I set the CPU speed by setting the CPU Multiplier at 7.0 and the FSB at 133Mhz, resulting 932Mhz.

It's pure guess work for me, as my theory is that this would make a P3/EB 933 doable with the EPoX EP-BX3, just by adding simple logics.

The 133Mhz FSB jumper is hard t see, due to the angle of the photo, sorry for that.
This didn't work in the end as I was forced to use 7.0 x 100Mhz FSB for 700Mhz instead.

Here the P3/EB 933 with it's Thermaltake Golden orb in the system:






Here the system layout:

Everything looks clean and ready for some 3Dfx Gaming and retro fun

These are the D-Sub & Audio cable connectors:

As you see I used a gold plated Tulip to female speaker convertor cable for my two Sony 25 Watt 4Ohm PC Speakers.

Here the PSU mounted:


And here the final assembly shot, ready for first test run:

That to which gave me one long beep that followed by 3 short ones, nothing wrong, after testing varied FSB settings of 100Mhz, 124Mhz and 133Mhz with CPU multiplier settings of 6.5 & 7.0 and even the AUTO mode bootup was not successful but 7.0 x 100 seems to work fine.

As CPU-ID clearly shows:


Here a video of this system running @ 700Mhz and playing some music from Mr.Review, a Dutch SKA Band:

 
This is okay for now, yet I am seeking an ASUS P3V4X motherboard that uses the Intel i815 Chipset. 
This board has max ram support of 4x 1GB PC-133 ECC Reg / Non ECC Reg and native P3/EB 933Mhz Slot1 CPU support.
So yeah got something to do then right


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    Re: Avenger M99 Gets an Upgrade from P3/E 650 to P3/EB 933! 2018/08/02 22:41:47 (permalink)
    Love those old mods. 

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    Re: Avenger M99 Gets an Upgrade from P3/E 650 to P3/EB 933! 2018/08/03 05:00:01 (permalink)
    Yeah well it seems I may need  different motherboard as the P3/EB 933 goes and I do wanna take advantage of that extra speed to give the Quantum 3D Obsidian2 X-24 the best optimal performance possible to have a P3/EB 800 to a P3EB 1.13 Ghz are the ebst speeds so a 933 is a sweet spot just inbetween.

    The P3/EB 1.13Ghz Coppermines were cancelled I believe, when it came to the S.E.C.C2 Slot1 variants.
    My best bet so far is the ASUS P3V 4X  with the VIA Apollo Pro 133A Chipset


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    Re: Avenger M99 Gets an Upgrade from P3/E 650 to P3/EB 933! 2018/08/03 05:27:50 (permalink)
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    Yeah well it seems I may need  different motherboard as the P3/EB 933 goes and I do wanna take advantage of that extra speed to give the Quantum 3D Obsidian2 X-24 the best optimal performance possible to have a P3/EB 800 to a P3EB 1.13 Ghz are the ebst speeds so a 933 is a sweet spot just inbetween.

    The P3/EB 1.13Ghz Coppermines were cancelled I believe, when it came to the S.E.C.C2 Slot1 variants.
    My best bet so far is the ASUS P3V 4X  with the VIA Apollo Pro 133A Chipset


    I just saw an ASUS P3V 4X on ebay for about 81 Euros. 

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    Re: Avenger M99 Gets an Upgrade from P3/E 650 to P3/EB 933! 2018/08/03 06:43:16 (permalink)
    hmm yeah same here a friend of my in South Australia has tons of  P3/EB boards as well he has one from A-Open with Capacitors that are made in japane  thus better quality Imma wait for his idea's as well I am sure there were more solutions than ASUS even though an Intel i815 mobo would be my dream board with S.E.C.C.2 Slot1 for P3 EB 1Ghz+. But being i it is August 03, 2018  finding such boards that were released a good 19 years ago (August, 1999) in new state or mint state is very hard.
     
    A good thing is that the capacitors can be recapped aka renewed, may cost some time but it does pay off in the end
    The i440BX and the i815 are my faced Intel chipsets for Slot 1 P3's, VIA's Apollo Pro 133A is a good alternative but overall I prefer the i815, much more stable AGP & PCI Voltages and speeds.
     The Pentium !!!/EB line of CPU's are my most favored Intel CPU's ever made, so I will make this beauty shine, just salvaged a 5 Port USB 2.0 Card from NEC 4 external 1 internal and a Seagate Barracuda V 120GB 7200.7 rpm ATA-133 HDD, a good replacement for that old Maxtor Diamond Max 9 25GB HDD.

    The fun of renovating and parts replacing shall return once again.
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    Re: Avenger M99 Gets an Upgrade from P3/E 650 to P3/EB 933! 2018/08/03 06:59:36 (permalink)
    creative save of old Rig
     
    What OS are you running ?

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    Re: Avenger M99 Gets an Upgrade from P3/E 650 to P3/EB 933! 2018/08/10 08:34:39 (permalink)
    Hey all,

    Since the P3/EB 933 project kind of was a downfall I decided to use the BX3 and use my P3/EB 933 @ 700Mhz, a friend of mine will send me a 700 and me my 933 to them.
    From the past 8 days to today I rebuilt, cleaned and then renovated and re-cleaned all the parts of my two retro Pentium !!! Systems.
    Both using Coppermine CPU's with 100 & 133Mhz FSB aka Pentium !!!/E & Pentium !!!/E CPU's, yet  the P3/EB 933 is running as a P3/E 700 which I am still waiting for to arrive.

    The P3/E 700 uses

    Avenger M99

    Intel Pentium !!!/E 933Mhz Coppermine S.E.C.C. 2 / Slot 1 @ 700Mhz [P3/E 700 on the way]
    3x 128MB PC-100 CL2.5 Samsung Original
    EPoX EP-BX3 Intel i440 BX Chipset
    Diamond Multimedia Viper II Z200 AGP 32MB 128Bit SDR [S3 Savage 2000 AGP 32MB]
    Quantum3D Obsidian2 X-24 PCI 24MB 384Bit Edo
    Intel Pro 100/S Desktop Adapter
    Philips FM/AM Radio Card 8Bit ISA
    Creative Labs AWE64 Gold CT4390
    NEC 5 Port USB Card + Front Panel 2 External 3 In Front panel ( Instead of Floppy Drive )
    NEC 5 Port USB 2.0 PCI Card 4 External 1 Internal
    LG 40x/16x CD/DVD RW-Drive
    1x Maxtor Diamond Max 9+ 40GB ATA 133
    1x Maxtor Diamond Max 9+ 60GB ATA 133
    A-Open H600-B Workstation Case
    Enermax Modu 525VE 525 Watt PSU

    Windows 2000 Professional UK + Service Pack 4
    Latest S3 Savage 2000 Drivers for Win2K
    Latest Quantum 3D Obsidian2 Drivers For Win2K from NuAngel's aka Garrett 'Tuna' Culver Archive








    And here my first 2CPU system that my friend Marco Alblas built on Jan 28, 2000
    I just renovated it and cleaned it and kept it alive ever since, plus I gave it a Seagate barracuda V 120GB HDD for extra storage

    Gradinko SMP 2000

    2x Intel Pentium!!!/EB 1Ghz Coppermine, 2x 256KB L2
    ABiT VP6 Raid Ver 1.0
    4x 512MB PC-133 ECC Reg CL2.5 HP / Micron Crucial
    Matrox Parhelia AGP 256MB 256Bit DDR Rev.A 0105 @ AGP x4
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy2 Platinum eX
    Intel Pro/1000 MT Fast Ethernet Adapter
    Sweex NEC 5 ported USB 2.0 PCI 32 bit card
    1x Seagate Barracuda V 80 GB 7200 rpm Ultra ATA 133 HDD @ Ultra ATA 100
    1x Seagate Barracuda V 120GB 7200.7 rpm Ultra ATA 133 HDD @ Ultra ATA 100
    1x NEC DVD-RW ND 1300A Ultra ATA 100
    Addtronics 7896A Server Tower
    Enermax 330Watt PSU
    Samsung SyncMaster 943
    Compaq S710 17" CRT

    Windows XP Professional USA + Service Pack 3
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    And there you have it Golden orbs everywhere.
     
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    Re: Avenger M99 Gets an Upgrade from P3/E 650 to P3/EB 933! 2018/08/10 09:29:04 (permalink)
    You like the Classics
     
    What no Linux ?
     
    Nice recycling job

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    Re: Avenger M99 Gets an Upgrade from P3/E 650 to P3/EB 933! 2018/08/10 10:52:52 (permalink)



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    Re: Avenger M99 Gets an Upgrade from P3/E 650 to P3/EB 933! 2018/08/10 13:35:04 (permalink)
    Many thanks guys and nah I prefer Win2K for the most never liked 98SE or Linux < even that Linux is a good OS to use it doesn't say me much either and rather useless for most games I play.

    Win2K Pro + SP4 is my favorite all time OS XP Pro + SP3 wasn't bad even though I was never fond of all the extra eye candy crap that came with it and that active X stuff as well.
    Win 2K Pro + SP4 was a more to the point and more serious OS for my doings with all the nonsense removed, made 2K Pro + SP4 also quite a tad faster than XP Pro + SP3, when it came to using the P3/E 650 at the time which is now the P3/E 700.
    All my new gen systems use Win7 Pro x64 + SP1 as I have no need for Win 10 and anything newer as of yet.
    Well I have been thinking of doing more classics than new gen ones, I just find old hardware more fascinating to use actually.
     
    Just keep in mind that these Pentium 3's are between 19 and 20 years old now and they still perform as from the day I bought them 
    Keeping them cleaned and keeping them well maintained kind of saved them really.

    Back then you had a thing called build quality games also had better gameplay quality than the stuff we all get today, after all I am a retro gamer if we talk about games mainly being Descent 1 & 2 or Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II or X-Wing Versus Tie-Fighter : Balance of Power or some rounds of Unreal Tournament Game of the year Edition 1999 so many out there they never get old for me :)
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