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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/11/26 05:29:02 (permalink)
Well all news stories about new variants will always include something to to the effect "may/could/possibly negate/mitigate/lessen the vaccine."  It is the current news click bait. 
 
All viruses will mutate at some point as conditions change for their survival. 
 
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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/11/26 20:03:55 (permalink)
 
I would no sooner trust the mainstream news than I would trust the sewer to get clean drinking water from.   I certainly trust myself.   I got -it- and got over -it- in three days by treating myself, like I have every other time I've been sick in the past 33 years.  Don't care if anyone believes me or not. 
 
 I certainly don't trust the big tech companies who delete any opposing viewpoint or opinion. Even ones from scientists around the world who've forgotten more about medicine than Fauci currently knows.  Whatever happened to the days of healthy open debate?  

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/11/28 19:32:16 (permalink)
The new variant is called "Omicron" but if you scramble the letters it spells "Moronic"  I don't know what that means, I'm just a messenger...

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/11/29 18:43:58 (permalink)
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The new variant is called "Omicron" but if you scramble the letters it spells "Moronic"  I don't know what that means, I'm just a messenger...




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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/11/29 21:48:32 (permalink)


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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/11/30 00:05:31 (permalink)
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The new variant is called "Omicron" but if you scramble the letters it spells "Moronic"  I don't know what that means, I'm just a messenger...






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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/11/30 05:14:55 (permalink)
Sounds like the common flu to me. FYI: The flu is a coronavirus. They are just making up fancy names for the flu now and trying to scare everyone IMO.
 


 
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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/11/30 05:37:41 (permalink)
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The new variant is called "Omicron"




Really, we are naming covid strands after fake planets from tv shows now?
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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/11/30 06:42:17 (permalink)
They skipped over Nu and Xi for the name  as to not offend the chinese 
 
Pi variant is next.  I'd predict close to mid term elections next year. 

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/02 02:28:20 (permalink)
I became so tired of Corona news and the new variants that I hardly turn on the TV lately except to watch a movie or Netflix. 

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/02 23:03:01 (permalink)
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I became so tired of Corona news and the new variants that I hardly turn on the TV lately except to watch a movie or Netflix. 




And then when you finally choose a movie to watch, it's "Songbird".   Covid 23 ;-)

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/04 12:07:38 (permalink)
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The new variant is called "Omicron" but if you scramble the letters it spells "Moronic"  I don't know what that means, I'm just a messenger...


Fun Fact, Omicron does in fact rearrange to Moronic, but if you put the previous strain in the mix, (DELTA OMICRON) it's an anagram that spells Media Control.

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/04 12:16:09 (permalink)
My buddy was 3 weeks on a ventilator, 4 days in induced coma.  He's been home for a month.  If he moves at all, like even going to the bathroom or the kitchen, he has to put on his oxygen mask.
Another person I know died from COVID.



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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/04 12:45:30 (permalink)
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The new variant is called "Omicron" but if you scramble the letters it spells "Moronic"  I don't know what that means, I'm just a messenger...


Fun Fact, Omicron does in fact rearrange to Moronic, but if you put the previous strain in the mix, (DELTA OMICRON) it's an anagram that spells Media Control.


If you figured in the economic impact of the resulting travel bans, with your conspiracy theories, world war 3 should have already started...Just some food for thought. 
Just trust the science and stay safe everyone. 

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/04 12:57:26 (permalink)
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My buddy was 3 weeks on a ventilator, 4 days in induced coma.  He's been home for a month.  If he moves at all, like even going to the bathroom or the kitchen, he has to put on his oxygen mask.
Another person I know died from COVID.

Sorry to hear that. This is exactly the sort of thing almost nobody talks about - least of all the media. It really pisses me off hearing so many people say, "No worries, it's just a bad flu then you get over it." - but hundreds of thousands will never get over it because they have permanent serious lung damage that will mean medical issues for the rest of their lives, and most certainly shorten their longevity by at least a decade, maybe several decades. Many people who recovered and think they're fine are going to find out later in life that they too have suffered lung damage from this virus, and the worst thing about lung damage is that it's irreversible, and it only gets worse over time. This is NOT a freaking flu.
 

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/04 14:17:18 (permalink)
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The new variant is called "Omicron" but if you scramble the letters it spells "Moronic"  I don't know what that means, I'm just a messenger...


Fun Fact, Omicron does in fact rearrange to Moronic, but if you put the previous strain in the mix, (DELTA OMICRON) it's an anagram that spells Media Control.


 Funny,  It's also CILANTRO MODE

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/04 17:31:30 (permalink)
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My buddy was 3 weeks on a ventilator, 4 days in induced coma.  He's been home for a month.  If he moves at all, like even going to the bathroom or the kitchen, he has to put on his oxygen mask.
Another person I know died from COVID.

Sorry to hear that. This is exactly the sort of thing almost nobody talks about - least of all the media. It really pisses me off hearing so many people say, "No worries, it's just a bad flu then you get over it." - but hundreds of thousands will never get over it because they have permanent serious lung damage that will mean medical issues for the rest of their lives, and most certainly shorten their longevity by at least a decade, maybe several decades. Many people who recovered and think they're fine are going to find out later in life that they too have suffered lung damage from this virus, and the worst thing about lung damage is that it's irreversible, and it only gets worse over time. This is NOT a freaking flu.
 


I second your last part, I had covid and it was not anything like the flu. TBH I'll take covid over the flu any day.
I had a slight dry cough and that was it, I did not even think I had covid at the time and went about my day as usual. It was not until my sister who works in a covid unit at a hospital picked up on it when she was visiting, that was on the last day I had the cough too, a few days later I got a antibody test and it was positive.
It sure is odd how can affect people so differently.
But whats odder is how my sister who works with covid positive patients all day but does not have to isolate at all, but if I'm exposed I'm expected to stay home for a week and wait for test results?

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/04 19:53:09 (permalink)
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My buddy was 3 weeks on a ventilator, 4 days in induced coma.  He's been home for a month.  If he moves at all, like even going to the bathroom or the kitchen, he has to put on his oxygen mask.
Another person I know died from COVID.




Sorry to hear about your friend and the person you knew who died. My Aunt passed away from the original Covid 19, she was the last person alive that I know on my mother's side of the family. My Mom and Dad have passed away also. Dad in 2000 and Mom in 2016, so yeah I take death causing issues seriously.
 
However these new strains are nothing like the original Covid 19 from all the reports I have seen.

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/04 20:25:12 (permalink)
Austin, your nurse gets tested every workday and follows strict protocols. If she tests positive she goes home and isolated.
Not all states require isolation for simple exposure. The CDC guidelines in fact do not recommend that except in cases where you cannot isolate from the Covid positive person (like a 7 year old with Covid who will still crawl all over you every chance)
And that’s the difference.
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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/05 02:04:49 (permalink)
A retired USAF friend of mine contracted COVID a few months ago and recovered. On November 9th he died of a heart attach or stroke. He received a military burial on 30 November. Life is completely an unsure thing. 

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/05 22:09:32 (permalink)
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The new variant is called "Omicron" but if you scramble the letters it spells "Moronic"  I don't know what that means, I'm just a messenger...


Fun Fact, Omicron does in fact rearrange to Moronic, but if you put the previous strain in the mix, (DELTA OMICRON) it's an anagram that spells Media Control.


If you figured in the economic impact of the resulting travel bans, with your conspiracy theories, world war 3 should have already started...Just some food for thought. 
Just trust the science and stay safe everyone. 




I do trust the science.  It just comes from sources that the authoritarian CDC and Technocrat rulers censor and hide.  The U.S. isn't the only country in the world, there are plenty others with brilliant scientists who have completely opposite viewpoints of how effective the gene therapy needle truely is.     It's not a conspiracy if actual genuine scientists differ from Emporer Fauci's rule of law.
 
 

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/05 22:13:12 (permalink)
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My buddy was 3 weeks on a ventilator, 4 days in induced coma.  He's been home for a month.  If he moves at all, like even going to the bathroom or the kitchen, he has to put on his oxygen mask.
Another person I know died from COVID.

Sorry to hear that. This is exactly the sort of thing almost nobody talks about - least of all the media. It really pisses me off hearing so many people say, "No worries, it's just a bad flu then you get over it." - but hundreds of thousands will never get over it because they have permanent serious lung damage that will mean medical issues for the rest of their lives, and most certainly shorten their longevity by at least a decade, maybe several decades. Many people who recovered and think they're fine are going to find out later in life that they too have suffered lung damage from this virus, and the worst thing about lung damage is that it's irreversible, and it only gets worse over time. This is NOT a freaking flu.
 




Me and three very close personal friends have caught it and we are perfectly fine today.  Why? We know how fight it off, boost our immune system and cleanse the mess it leaves. People die from pneumonia, the flu and other bronchial infections all the time, year after year.   Why does this one get such special treatment by the MSM? 

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/05 22:16:02 (permalink)
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I had a slight dry cough and that was it, I did not even think I had covid at the time and went about my day as usual. 




Mine was a little rougher, two days in bed and wobbly for about a week.  No biggy.  I had the flu about 20 years ago and never had it again since, that flu was worse for me.

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/06 02:04:37 (permalink)
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Personally, I don't see things leveling out until this global pandemic is under control. 

This never-ending pandemic will sure look pretty silly if some real scary disease starts spreading. Not to get political, but you have to wonder at some of it and wonder how things would have been different if it wasn't a US election year. A lot of fuss over not very much.
Imagine ebola spreading. That, I could see causing chaos. A semi-worse global flu though? When will we stop making excuses and justifying things, instead of just letting things get back to normal? It seems to me that the people who are dragging this out usually have something to gain in the process.
I get fear of the unknown and being cautious, but now that we know it well, why are we still doing these things?

 
The climbing infection rate that overruns our hospitals time and time again is what is dragging this out. There is nothing political about it.


I've seen ZERO evidence of "The climbing infection rate that overruns our hospitals time and time again".


Available ICU beds and hospitals at max capacity is always a major concern....this has been going on for 2 years...you don't watch the national news?






Max capacity in ICU beds is a floating number.
And has been for most of the last 50 years.
The appearance of dedicated "wards" is an artifact of a dead paradigm in hospital management.


 
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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/06 08:34:06 (permalink)
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My buddy was 3 weeks on a ventilator, 4 days in induced coma.  He's been home for a month.  If he moves at all, like even going to the bathroom or the kitchen, he has to put on his oxygen mask.
Another person I know died from COVID.

Sorry to hear that. This is exactly the sort of thing almost nobody talks about - least of all the media. It really pisses me off hearing so many people say, "No worries, it's just a bad flu then you get over it." - but hundreds of thousands will never get over it because they have permanent serious lung damage that will mean medical issues for the rest of their lives, and most certainly shorten their longevity by at least a decade, maybe several decades. Many people who recovered and think they're fine are going to find out later in life that they too have suffered lung damage from this virus, and the worst thing about lung damage is that it's irreversible, and it only gets worse over time. This is NOT a freaking flu.
 




Me and three very close personal friends have caught it and we are perfectly fine today.  Why? We know how fight it off, boost our immune system and cleanse the mess it leaves. People die from pneumonia, the flu and other bronchial infections all the time, year after year.   Why does this one get such special treatment by the MSM? 



Because it's 10x more deadly than the flu.
The implication you're making is that you can survive by doing what you've always done.  Meanwhile, athletes, kids, teenagers are dying.  Are you saying that they aren't being healthy?

And this fascination with the MSM being somehow to blame is bizarre.
5.26 MILLIONS of people around the world have died to this much more deadly strain.  Do you think the MSM made this up?  Do you think countries around the world are just like, oh we're not really sick but you can say that?
I honestly don't understand why a pandemic is such a trigger point for politically motivated people.  It's death and misery for millions of families, but somehow that's no big deal.  SMH

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/06 12:27:18 (permalink)
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Because it's 10x more deadly than the flu.

But it's not.
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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/06 12:32:32 (permalink)
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Because it's 10x more deadly than the flu.

But it's not.

Your assertion is demonstrably false.  Science, not political hacks, shows the severity.
https://www.mayoclinic.or...us-vs-flu/art-20490339



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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/06 13:04:03 (permalink)
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Because it's 10x more deadly than the flu.

But it's not.

Your assertion is demonstrably false.  Science, not political hacks, shows the severity.
https://www.mayoclinic.or...us-vs-flu/art-20490339

Well.. Ty_ger07 is sort of correct ...he said it's not true the covid is 10x more deadly than the flu. Based on CDC numbers, it's more like 12x more deadly.
 
Deaths in USA from flu per CDC (source: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html):
2010-2011: 37,000
2011-2012: 12,000
2012-2013: 43,000
2013-2014: 38,000
2014-2015: 51,000
2015-2016: 23,000
2016-2017: 30,000
2017-2018: 52,000
2018-2019: 28,000
2019-2020: 20,000
Average = 33,400 per year.
 
Deaths in USA from covid per CDC (source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm)
2020: 385,358
2021: 436,453 (estimated based on 400,082 deaths up to end of November, so 436,453 would be total for the year based on average from Jan-Nov).
Average = 410,679 per year.
 
so... 33,400 average from flu per year vs 410,679 average from covid per year = 12.3 times more deadly.
 
 

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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/06 16:23:16 (permalink)
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Because it's 10x more deadly than the flu.

But it's not.

Your assertion is demonstrably false.  Science, not political hacks, shows the severity.
https://www.mayoclinic.or...us-vs-flu/art-20490339

Well.. Ty_ger07 is sort of correct ...he said it's not true the covid is 10x more deadly than the flu. Based on CDC numbers, it's more like 12x more deadly.
 
Deaths in USA from flu per CDC (source: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html):
2010-2011: 37,000
2011-2012: 12,000
2012-2013: 43,000
2013-2014: 38,000
2014-2015: 51,000
2015-2016: 23,000
2016-2017: 30,000
2017-2018: 52,000
2018-2019: 28,000
2019-2020: 20,000
Average = 33,400 per year.
 
Deaths in USA from covid per CDC (source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm)
2020: 385,358
2021: 436,453 (estimated based on 400,082 deaths up to end of November, so 436,453 would be total for the year based on average from Jan-Nov).
Average = 410,679 per year.
 
so... 33,400 average from flu per year vs 410,679 average from covid per year = 12.3 times more deadly.
 
 




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Re: Are we headed for a dystopia? 2021/12/06 19:03:19 (permalink)
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Because it's 10x more deadly than the flu.
The implication you're making is that you can survive by doing what you've always done.  Meanwhile, athletes, kids, teenagers are dying.  Are you saying that they aren't being healthy?

And this fascination with the MSM being somehow to blame is bizarre.
5.26 MILLIONS of people around the world have died to this much more deadly strain.  Do you think the MSM made this up?  Do you think countries around the world are just like, oh we're not really sick but you can say that?
I honestly don't understand why a pandemic is such a trigger point for politically motivated people.  It's death and misery for millions of families, but somehow that's no big deal.  SMH




Please stop the strawman arguments. You have so many here.  Nobody here is saying Corona isn't real or those numbers are made up.  The argument is that it's blown out of proportion when you consider how few have caught it.
 
Of the global population, 266 million people have been infected.   That's 3.8% of the planet.  Let that sink in.    Of that 3.8% only %2.1 percent of those infected died.  So it has a %97.9 survival rate.
 
All death is tragic, yes. But millions also die from flu, colds, bronchitis, pneumonia every year.  Why aren't we grinding the planet to a halt for those virus too? Did their deaths not matter?  Or is it only people who die from covid whose life matters?
 
Is it tragic? Heck yeah.  Does it justify destroying the global economy out of knee jerk paranoia and over the top lockdowns and totalitarian mandates? Heck no.
 

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