EVGA

AnsweredAny Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost?

Author
WolvenShadows
New Member
  • Total Posts : 28
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/05/16 09:40:40
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
2022/09/20 18:30:32 (permalink)
Mods, can we expect new BIOS soon?
#1
Cool GTX
EVGA Forum Moderator
  • Total Posts : 29246
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2010/12/12 14:22:25
  • Location: Folding for the Greater Good
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 120
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/22 13:48:57 (permalink)
WolvenShadows
Mods, can we expect new BIOS soon?


This is a request you need to send Directly to EVGA   Complaints and Suggestions
 
sorry forum Mods, have no control of hardware/ drivers/ bios or firmware

Learn your way around the EVGA Forums, Rules & limits on new accounts Ultimate Self-Starter Thread For New Members I am a Volunteer Moderator not an EVGA employee
RTX Project EVGA X99 FTWK 2xEVGA2080Ti EVGA1200P2  Nibbler EVGA X99 Classified EVGA 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra 1600P2
Save $$$ @EVGA.com use ANYONE's Associate code @ checkout --> Even if your an Associate You can SAVE (on most items) 3% - 10% Depends on item

#2
WolvenShadows
New Member
  • Total Posts : 28
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/05/16 09:40:40
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/22 14:56:16 (permalink)
Cool GTX
WolvenShadows
Mods, can we expect new BIOS soon?


This is a request you need to send Directly to EVGA   Complaints and Suggestions
 
sorry forum Mods, have no control of hardware/ drivers/ bios or firmware


Thank you, will do.
#3
EVGATech_LeeM
EVGA Forum Moderator
  • Total Posts : 3767
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2016/11/04 14:43:35
  • Location: Brea, CA
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 14
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/22 19:24:20 (permalink)
Fix is a pretty broad term.  Need to know what you consider isn't working, what you expect to happen, and also your system specs (CPU, memory, MB, BIOS version, etc.).
#4
WolvenShadows
New Member
  • Total Posts : 28
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/05/16 09:40:40
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/22 19:51:40 (permalink)
I read PBO boost is broken. With stable much better Curve Optimizer settings, and roughly the same memory settings as my MSI X570S Unify-X Max, single-core and multi-core scores in Cinebench R23 and CPU-Z are a fair amount lower.
 
Also, y-cruncher is over ten seconds slower, from 54 to 65 seconds.
 
My bad, y-cruncher is only a bit less than 2 seconds slower, my best time was just under 64s and I get 65.63s now. Modded BIOS I might beat my best time, but not sure.
 
I even tried manually setting the Curve and PBO settings with a PBO Boost Tool which is supposed to overcome the AGESA 1.2.0.7 VID limit problem with higher EDC settings. Tested with and without that too.
 
5950x
EVGA X570 Dark
2x16GB G.Skill CL14 3600 Royal Elite
BIOS 1.08
post edited by WolvenShadows - 2022/09/22 20:23:45
#5
WolvenShadows
New Member
  • Total Posts : 28
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/05/16 09:40:40
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/22 20:01:37 (permalink)
Oh, on that. What are the chances of getting a modded 1.08 X570 Dark BIOS with the CBS and PBS menus and all their entries unlocked. 
 
The AM4 AGESA BIOSes have those menus, but not available without modding the BIOS and it's beyond my skills to do that.
 
Even though I started a thread on overclocking.net for the X570 Dark and FTW WIFI, I would never share a modded BIOS without express permission that I can.
 
I am very proficient at overclocking, on this board got the #1 benchmark in the world on Blender OpenData a few days ago with a static CCX overclock, but PBO boost seems to be not working well, and missing those menus is very limiting.
 
I have several threads and over 7000 separate posts on overclock.net
 
https://www.overclock.net...ussion-thread.1800912/
post edited by WolvenShadows - 2022/09/22 20:21:04
#6
WolvenShadows
New Member
  • Total Posts : 28
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/05/16 09:40:40
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/23 08:49:59 (permalink)
Support ticket. I've heard EVGA support is excellent.
 
"For the EVGA X570 Dark motherboard, it is absolutely vital I get an unlocked 1.08 or newer BIOS with the PBS and CBS menus and all their entries under every category in them unlocked and available in the BIOS that come with the AM4 AGESA bioses. These are vital to me as I enter overclocking competitions and have several threads running in overclocking forums about overclocking AM4 motherboards and these BIOSes. I also am starting an EVGA X570 Dark Overclocking & Discussion Thread on overclock.net.
It is beyond me to mod the BIOS and do it myself, and I fear if I can find someone to mod it for me, it will not pass the security checks to be able to flash the BIOS.
Can you mod the BIOS for me to make these menus available?
Please let me know.
My email is *********@gmail.com."
 



"Answer9/23/2022 8:31:26 AM
Hello,

Thank you for reaching out. I have forwarded your request to our Product Management team to see if we can provide a modded BIOS. Please allow 1-3 business days to see if we have a way of assisting you.

Regards,
EVGA"
#7
EVGATech_LeeM
EVGA Forum Moderator
  • Total Posts : 3767
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2016/11/04 14:43:35
  • Location: Brea, CA
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 14
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/23 16:00:12 (permalink)
WolvenShadows
I read PBO boost is broken. With stable much better Curve Optimizer settings, and roughly the same memory settings as my MSI X570S Unify-X Max, single-core and multi-core scores in Cinebench R23 and CPU-Z are a fair amount lower.
 
Also, y-cruncher is over ten seconds slower, from 54 to 65 seconds.
 
My bad, y-cruncher is only a bit less than 2 seconds slower, my best time was just under 64s and I get 65.63s now. Modded BIOS I might beat my best time, but not sure.
 
I even tried manually setting the Curve and PBO settings with a PBO Boost Tool which is supposed to overcome the AGESA 1.2.0.7 VID limit problem with higher EDC settings. Tested with and without that too.
 
5950x
EVGA X570 Dark
2x16GB G.Skill CL14 3600 Royal Elite
BIOS 1.08


Can you direct me to where other people have mentioned PBO Boost isn't working?  Prior to BIOS 1.07 there were complaints, but after updating 1.07 and tweaks to get Ryzen Master to work, which should be in 1.08, I've only seen people with a 5800X3D mention difficulties with it.  Not suggesting that you're wrong here, but it would be helpful to see other complaints from people.
#8
WolvenShadows
New Member
  • Total Posts : 28
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/05/16 09:40:40
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/23 18:11:08 (permalink)
EVGATech_LeeM
Can you direct me to where other people have mentioned PBO Boost isn't working?  Prior to BIOS 1.07 there were complaints, but after updating 1.07 and tweaks to get Ryzen Master to work, which should be in 1.08, I've only seen people with a 5800X3D mention difficulties with it.  Not suggesting that you're wrong here, but it would be helpful to see other complaints from people.



It's likely those posts you're referring to I'm talking about.
 
But with nearly exactly the same memory timings as my MSI Unify-X Max and far better Curve Optimizer settings, I mean quite a bit better on the DARK, every benchmark I run is slower than my Unify-X.
 
I tried a ton of different EDC TDC settings etc. as well, with the much better CO Curve, every benchmark I run is slower on the DARK.
 
This is why I think the PBO Boost is problematic.
 
This might get better with a newer BIOS I hope, I'm not going to refund the board. I might RMA it though, as getting the memory fully stable is being problematic. I'm thinking I might have just lost the silicon lottery with this one. :(
#9
WolvenShadows
New Member
  • Total Posts : 28
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/05/16 09:40:40
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/27 15:29:07 (permalink)
EVGA provided me with a Dark BIOS with the PBS and CBS menus unlocked, but being a test BIOS that might introduce instability to inexperienced users, they asked me not to share it. I won't publically or even privately by PM, so don't ask, please. If after my extensive testing they allow me to share it, I will, but likely not.
#10
WolvenShadows
New Member
  • Total Posts : 28
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/05/16 09:40:40
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/27 15:31:47 (permalink)
I've also gotten my benchmarks very close to what I was getting with the MSI board I had, with these menus available, I can likely do better now. :)
#11
Jc
iCX Member
  • Total Posts : 434
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2010/08/11 17:11:25
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 1
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/30 17:49:04 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby WolvenShadows 2022/09/30 19:02:38
WolvenShadows
I've also gotten my benchmarks very close to what I was getting with the MSI board I had, with these menus available, I can likely do better now. :)



Hi @WolvenShadows
 
 
Have you tried overclocking your ram with x570 Dark? I'm curious to know since I would be purchasing a very similar kit and wonder how far did you get. I'm planning on getting either one of this F4-3600C14D-32GTZN F4-3600C14D-32GTZRA. I'm also pairing my x570 Dark with 5800x3d.
 
 
 
#12
WolvenShadows
New Member
  • Total Posts : 28
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/05/16 09:40:40
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/30 19:05:52 (permalink)
quote=Jc]
WolvenShadows
I've also gotten my benchmarks very close to what I was getting with the MSI board I had, with these menus available, I can likely do better now. :)



Hi @WolvenShadows
 
 
Have you tried overclocking your ram with x570 Dark? I'm curious to know since I would be purchasing a very similar kit and wonder how far did you get. I'm planning on getting either one of this F4-3600C14D-32GTZN F4-3600C14D-32GTZRA. I'm also pairing my x570 Dark with 5800x3d.
 
 
 



My RAM overclocks well.
 
G.Skill CL14 3600 Royal Elite
 
Ram voltage is 1.54v, VTTs at .770v.
 
But I sent the first kit back to Newegg for a second same kit. The second kit was a decent bin, the first kit was awful. :(
 

post edited by WolvenShadows - 2022/09/30 19:09:12
#13
WolvenShadows
New Member
  • Total Posts : 28
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/05/16 09:40:40
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/30 20:23:47 (permalink)
When TM5 finishes testing, I'll post an Imgur link with all my BIOS settings. I'm using a modded BIOS. You can do a support ticket and request it, or maybe @EVGATech_LeeM can provide it. 
 
 
post edited by WolvenShadows - 2022/09/30 20:25:54
#14
WolvenShadows
New Member
  • Total Posts : 28
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/05/16 09:40:40
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: Any Update On A New Upcoming Dark BIOS To Fix PBO Boost? 2022/09/30 22:07:13 (permalink)

 
BRB, getting BIOS screenshots, and my CO Curve is Core Cycler and y-cruncher stress test  FFT and HNT stable. :)
#15
Jump to:
  • Back to Mobile