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2020/09/21 16:11:57 (permalink)
See here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/...pp&utm_name=iossmf

Seems that the 20% uplift over 3080 in games pans out. Remains to be seen what VR will be like. 3090 has already shown to be good for workloads like Blender based on some early benchmarks.

Looks like I’ll be holding out for a FTW3 Ultra. lol
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/21 16:17:09 (permalink)
    Yeah, I saw that... honest human, but how did he get a 3090 before it's official release date on Thursday? He did something if he managed to sidestepped the game, so I'm not sure I'd call him a normal consumer...
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/21 16:18:10 (permalink)
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    Yeah, I saw that... honest human, but how did he get a 3090 before it's official release date on Thursday? He did something if he managed to sidestepped the game, so I'm not sure I'd call him a normal consumer...


    He posted about that. He has an insider connection at MSI. So nothing weird.
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/21 16:34:08 (permalink)
    20% for 800 more$ is crazy

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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/21 16:46:47 (permalink)
    +30% over a 2080 Ti at 350w and typical OC in Timespy GPU, on air.  No idea if he's citing benches with an OC or increased power, or what power and clocks the Trio runs at stock, I think it's a custom card.
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/21 17:06:08 (permalink)
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    20% for 800 more$ is crazy



    The 3090 is certainly not for the enthusiast line. That's the 3080 and it fills that nicely. But when I want to go across RDR2 with 60fps and maxed settings.. plenty of times I'd have paid more to be able to do that. Heck, I've bought consoles just for one game. Buying a GPU just to play RDR2 4k60 maxed stable is well within the realm of my own madness. 20% is certainly not nothing. 

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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/21 17:10:31 (permalink)
    That's about 10% compared to the other reviews for MSI Gaming X Trio 3080 I have seen.
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/21 17:13:56 (permalink)
    If the cards are under an NDA wouldn't posting numbers online make him not an honest human?

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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/21 17:16:36 (permalink)
    Hoggle
    If the cards are under an NDA wouldn't posting numbers online make him not an honest human?

    Was going to say the same thing. Definitely a dishonest human at some point in this process.
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/21 18:02:46 (permalink)
    Assassin's Creed Odyssey (4K/Maxed): 71 vs 63 (via arstechinica) 12.7% IncreaseHorizon Zero Dawn (4K/Ultimate Quality): 86 vs 73 (via techspot) 17.8% IncreaseShadow of the Tomb Raider (4K/Maxed/DLSS/No RT): 112 vs 103 (via guru 3D) 8.7% IncreaseShadow of the Tomb Raider (4K/Maxed/DLSS/RT): 82 vs 69 (via pcgamer) 18.8% Increase
     
     
    Can barely reach close to 20% uplift in some games..
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/21 18:04:57 (permalink)
    Hoggle
    If the cards are under an NDA wouldn't posting numbers online make him not an honest human?


    Good point. In terms of “honesty” I meant the benchmark numbers overall.
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/21 18:07:18 (permalink)
    Based on what we’ve seen out of reference and fe it would seem moar power plant is necessary. FTW3, HOF, STRIX and even then it’s looking a lot like it’s going to be a very moddy Xmas

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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 03:48:34 (permalink)
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    Hoggle
    If the cards are under an NDA wouldn't posting numbers online make him not an honest human?

    Was going to say the same thing. Definitely a dishonest human at some point in this process.

    Eh, you 2 need to shut the front door. Nvidia's NDA only applies to people receiving press cards, not to the Earth's entire population.

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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 04:13:39 (permalink)
     
     
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    Hoggle
    If the cards are under an NDA wouldn't posting numbers online make him not an honest human?

    Was going to say the same thing. Definitely a dishonest human at some point in this process.

    Eh, you 2 need to shut the front door. Nvidia's NDA only applies to people receiving press cards, not to the Earth's entire population.


    Going to have to agree here even though it may be a bit semantic.  The NDA applies to people who actually sign the NDA and if he was given the card, well he can't be held to it ;)
     
     

     
     
     
     




     
     
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 04:36:03 (permalink)
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    Can barely reach close to 20% uplift in some games..




    It would be interesting to see if it's the card, drivers, games or a CPU limit. Of course I don't think many people are expecting a 100% increase and it does offer the option of 8K gaming which I feel will be important for E3 if they can display the games on a huge TV running at 60fps at 8K the details really would pop.
     
    As for the NDA being broken somewhere along the way someone signed an NDA and the card getting out broke that NDA. Any major manufacturer is going to have all employees sign an NDA to protect what they are working on.
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 04:38:14 (permalink)
    Was going to wait for the 3090 Hydrocopper, but the huge price increase over a small gain is disappointing.  I guess I'll keep playing the waiting game for reviews to decide between the 3080/3090 hydrocopper.   
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 04:39:59 (permalink)
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    Can barely reach close to 20% uplift in some games..




    It would be interesting to see if it's the card, drivers, games or a CPU limit. Of course I don't think many people are expecting a 100% increase and it does offer the option of 8K gaming which I feel will be important for E3 if they can display the games on a huge TV running at 60fps at 8K the details really would pop.


    Probably a mix of all of those honestly. Depending on the title. Assassins Creed has a very obvious bottleneck situation going on.

    I’m curious as to how the 3090 performs in games like Modern Warfare.
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 06:40:50 (permalink)
    Of course, the reddit thread doesn't clearly state if he is testing it at stock, just that he "achieved a mild OC".  Nor any of the clocks, etc.
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 06:51:48 (permalink)
    It's okay because his thermals were crap and it's already deep into the power curve so the 550 watts didnt serve him well.
     
    Honestly, with these higher tier semi binned cards like the ftw3 under water with 440watts, im guess you can achieve similar overclocks with the higher quality of the chips and better thermals. Possibly less, but if he was getting 10% you can probably achieve 8% under water.
    And if thats the case, it's a large uplift over the 2080ti. Over 50% @ 4k
    The 3090 overclocks better than the 3080 but both are underwhelming in this regard
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 06:55:47 (permalink)
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    Of course, the reddit thread doesn't clearly state if he is testing it at stock, just that he "achieved a mild OC".  Nor any of the clocks, etc.


     
     
    If you want to actually looks at all his numbers and testing, ext. peek into the overclock.net forums where he actually posted and ignore reddit



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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 07:12:55 (permalink)
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    Of course, the reddit thread doesn't clearly state if he is testing it at stock, just that he "achieved a mild OC".  Nor any of the clocks, etc.


     
     
    If you want to actually looks at all his numbers and testing, ext. peek into the overclock.net forums where he actually posted and ignore reddit







    Link it.
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 07:15:05 (permalink)
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    If the cards are under an NDA wouldn't posting numbers online make him not an honest human?

    Was going to say the same thing. Definitely a dishonest human at some point in this process.

    Eh, you 2 need to shut the front door. Nvidia's NDA only applies to people receiving press cards, not to the Earth's entire population.

    This person got the card from *someone* they were not supposed to get it from. *Someone* violated the NDA at some point. Read in bold.
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 09:14:24 (permalink)
    so between 10% and a stretched 20% fps increase?  for 1600 euros?
    i think not dear sir! 
     
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 09:33:42 (permalink)
    There is no secret driver released to go along with these "3090" benchmarks. IF they actually have a 3090 in hand, they could be using the current driver that supports the 3080 and it might be skewing results. Here's hoping the 3090 IS 20% to 25% better, though.
     
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 09:50:00 (permalink)
    Thats where I'm at. I want the best nvidia can offer in the next 2 years. These rumors about a 20 gig 3080 etc. Ruins it for me. I don't want another super incident. I want to buy the best from the start and in 2022 get excited for the next big card.
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 10:19:35 (permalink)
    Finally, believable numbers and enough evidence to back it up. Even if he had to have Yakuza ninjas steal it from the back of a delivery truck.


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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 11:32:18 (permalink)
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    so between 10% and a stretched 20% fps increase?  for 1600 euros?
    i think not dear sir! 
     
    but good to know!! :D


    yeah, so far these numbers are not looking great, and unless you need the epeen points or live for benchmarks, its really not looking like a good idea.
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/22 11:35:38 (permalink)
    Hoggle
    If the cards are under an NDA wouldn't posting numbers online make him not an honest human?


    The assumption he would abide the NDA is just that, assumption. If he didn't sign the NDA, he has no reason to follow it. Secondly NDAs are not 100% legally enforceable in all countries.
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/23 22:10:38 (permalink)
    How did they get a 3090 so early?
     
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    Re: An actual honest human from Reddit benchmarked a 3090 early 2020/09/23 22:48:56 (permalink)
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    Can barely reach close to 20% uplift in some games..


     
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