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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/17 13:24:59
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I think it is time to talk to the engineers when you need an AIO to run your chip at full capability. Yes I watercool, and advocate that, BUT, it should not be a necessity, or strongly suggested by the manufacturer.
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/17 13:33:14
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I wonder at what Cost?  Nice Size Radiator 
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/17 16:24:04
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Some of the high-end FX9xxx chips used 220 watts - those things pretty much needed water cooling to work well.
125 watts though is viable with a good air cooler, like my FX 8570 with the Wraith cooler.
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/17 16:48:27
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TECH_DaveB
I think it is time to talk to the engineers when you need an AIO to run your chip at full capability. Yes I watercool, and advocate that, BUT, it should not be a necessity, or strongly suggested by the manufacturer.
I have to agree and since so few things will really make use of the multiple threads I wonder if the heat will be a negative that will result in people rushing away from them. That and only some tasks really seeing the benefit.
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/17 18:39:20
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Since I got rid of all my water-cooling stuff, including the aio would be a nice touch especially at $1000. I mean unless they are going to give a discount if you buy the chip alone.
Would get me up and running while I slowly purchase other parts.
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/17 20:33:51
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Due to the size of the TR socket, does that mean a new bracket would have to be introduced for compatibility? Hopefully it can be as simple as changing out the mounting brackets. Would like to use existing water cooling stuff that I have on hand now.
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/17 20:50:06
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Graphics cards, at least the typical high-end, are already 200W average, many sold in retail are still air cooled; therefore, liquid cooling wouldn't be **needed** absolutely, you know what I mean? I'd put the AIO inclusion as part marketing for the OEM and improves the value of the CPU in the sense that a $100 cooler is included. Of course, that would also imply AMD could drop the price of Threadripper if the AIO wasn't included.
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/18 02:17:51
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redleader00
bcavnaugh
I wonder at what Cost?
Nice Size Radiator
If that is what they are going to include, I really hope it is optional and you can buy TR without it. I wouldn't buy a $1000 chip to put that piece of, let's say sub-par, cooler on it.
Agreed!! More than likely I will swap for a cooler of my own choice. This is just unneeded added cost imo that could have been used to undercut Intel even further. I though I saw Threadripper rumored at 160 or 180watt TDP. I remember when people were cursing the high 140watt Phenom II CPUs
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/18 02:35:57
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rjohnson11 you betrayed Blue Homeland. I mean Intel. Intel employers are angry, market devision in rage, one less customer will overpay performance. I can bet you would like more Threadripper 1950X than i7-7900X? What you think? I would like more i7-7820X + X299 Dark than 1950X. And price are similar.
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/18 03:23:53
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Vlada011
rjohnson11 you betrayed Blue Homeland. I mean Intel.
Intel employers are angry, market devision in rage, one less customer will overpay performance.
I can bet you would like more Threadripper 1950X than i7-7900X? What you think?
I would like more i7-7820X + X299 Dark than 1950X. And price are similar.
I still like Intel but the problem are the prices for Intel top line CPUs and motherboards. These are beyond my reach. AMD is offering good performance at far lower prices. I mean if someone were to win the lottery and buy a top end Intel CPU and motherboard for me that would be great but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/18 16:40:46
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TECH_DaveB
I think it is time to talk to the engineers when you need an AIO to run your chip at full capability. Yes I watercool, and advocate that, BUT, it should not be a necessity, or strongly suggested by the manufacturer.
+1
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/18 18:40:07
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That redleader00
bcavnaugh
I wonder at what Cost?
Nice Size Radiator
If that is what they are going to include, I really hope it is optional and you can buy TR without it. I wouldn't buy a $1000 chip to put that piece of, let's say sub-par, cooler on it.
Thats the FX9### pictured there... not thread-ripper.
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/20 05:04:36
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TECH_DaveB
I think it is time to talk to the engineers when you need an AIO to run your chip at full capability. Yes I watercool, and advocate that, BUT, it should not be a necessity, or strongly suggested by the manufacturer.
Nowhere was it advocated that Threadripper requires liquid. This seems like another way of providing value for customers as long as they don't raise the price, or don't raise the price significantly.
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/20 09:08:25
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panzlock
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I think it is time to talk to the engineers when you need an AIO to run your chip at full capability. Yes I watercool, and advocate that, BUT, it should not be a necessity, or strongly suggested by the manufacturer.
Nowhere was it advocated that Threadripper requires liquid. This seems like another way of providing value for customers as long as they don't raise the price, or don't raise the price significantly.
I saw somewhere online it's because they don't want there to be shortage of coolers for the new platform, but who knows its a waiting game at this point.
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Re: AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper Processors
2017/07/20 09:10:39
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Sajin
TECH_DaveB
I think it is time to talk to the engineers when you need an AIO to run your chip at full capability. Yes I watercool, and advocate that, BUT, it should not be a necessity, or strongly suggested by the manufacturer.
+1
engineer* not engineer s, this is AMD we're talking about.
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