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AMD Zen 3 EPYC "Genesis" A0 sample specs leak - Due to release this year

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2020/07/12 01:43:53 (permalink)
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Processors using AMD's Zen 3 architecture are due to release later this year, arriving with both Ryzen and EPYC flavours. Now, Igor's Lab has managed to get a look at the specifications of some of AMD's "Genesis" A0 CPU samples, what will become AMD's Milan series of Zen 3 server processors, giving us an early look at AMD's next-generation offerings. What Igors' Lab has confirmed is what we have already come to expect; that Zen 3 will not bring higher core counts to AMD's EPYC product line. With Zen 3 continuing to use 7nm transistors, the architecture offers customers both performance benefits through design and lithography refinements, not more cores and colossal transistor evolutions.

Below we can see that AMD's 3rd generation of EPYC processors will continue to max out at 64 cores and 256MB of L3 cache, revealing no major changes over their Zen 2 counterparts. That said design changes and clock speed alterations should be enough to ensure that Zen 3 delivers more performance than Zen 2 across a wide range of workloads.  It is also noting that these processors are said to be early A0 samples, which means that AMD's release-ready Zen 3 processors will likely boast higher core clock speeds than what is shown below.  
 

 
While multi-threaded performance is important, single-threaded performance and lower internal latencies also matter, especially in day-to-day consumer workloads and gaming scenarios. This area is where AMD's Zen 3 cores will be focused. 

In the slide below, we can see that AMD is offering users a "combined cache" within each of their eight-core Zen 3 chiplets. This means that AMD's L3 cache will be equally shared across all cores within a Zen 3 CCX, instead of being split between four cores each. This design shift will help AMD to lower its internal latencies within a Zen 3 CPU die, allowing individual cores to communicate faster and for individual cores to be able to access any data on each chip's L3 cache without major latency bumps. This, amongst other things, will help Zen 3 to deliver higher performance levels in latency-limited workloads. 
 

 
With AMD's Milan silicon entering its A0 state, the company can no longer make major changes to Zen 3's design, at least architecturally. Now, AMD will be focused on testing its Zen 3 processor designs, finding the clock speeds that their new processors can achieve in real-world use cases. This testing will allow AMD to define the full specifications of its retail processors, which will define how powerful Zen 3 processors will be when they release later this year. 
 
Personally I believe Threadripper will undergo major changes next year with a new socket and DDR5 support.

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    Re: AMD Zen 3 EPYC "Genesis" A0 sample specs leak - Due to release this year 2020/07/12 02:34:01 (permalink)
    It's a nice milestone. Hopefully we see them sooner then later since it's already July and if it needs testing that doesn't leave much room for a release this year that is far enough away from Christmas to not hurt people who are trying to upgrade while also doing holiday shopping.

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    Re: AMD Zen 3 EPYC "Genesis" A0 sample specs leak - Due to release this year 2020/07/15 04:41:06 (permalink)
    Really interested in the inner chip and memory latencies. 
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    Re: AMD Zen 3 EPYC "Genesis" A0 sample specs leak - Due to release this year 2020/07/15 07:54:08 (permalink)
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    Really interested in the inner chip and memory latencies. 




    Yeah their biggest issue is how dependent on RAM clocks the CPUs are, while having a weak infinity fabric for a memory controller. I wanna see DDR4-4000 be the new standard for the new CPUs this fall.



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    Re: AMD Zen 3 EPYC "Genesis" A0 sample specs leak - Due to release this year 2020/07/15 10:04:10 (permalink)
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    Really interested in the inner chip and memory latencies. 




    Yeah their biggest issue is how dependent on RAM clocks the CPUs are, while having a weak infinity fabric for a memory controller. I wanna see DDR4-4000 be the new standard for the new CPUs this fall.


    Personally I want to see if DDR5 makes it into motherboards/CPUs next year and what those speeds will be. 

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    Re: AMD Zen 3 EPYC "Genesis" A0 sample specs leak - Due to release this year 2020/07/15 10:16:22 (permalink)
    Yeah; I can't afford to wait til next year to rebuild; but you can put $$ on it as soon as I spend $1K+ on a new system, they'll release DDR5 & PCIe5 next year.



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    Re: AMD Zen 3 EPYC "Genesis" A0 sample specs leak - Due to release this year 2020/07/15 10:41:58 (permalink)
    I've been hearing that the IF will be shrunk down to 7nm for Ryzen 4K desktops so it's a possibility 4000MHz will be reached if not surpassed for the standard memory (IF 2000MHz)
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    Re: AMD Zen 3 EPYC "Genesis" A0 sample specs leak - Due to release this year 2020/07/15 13:36:33 (permalink)
    From what I am hearing Ryzen 4000 will be AMD’s largest jump in performance since original Ryzen from Bulldozer.
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    Re: AMD Zen 3 EPYC "Genesis" A0 sample specs leak - Due to release this year 2020/07/15 18:23:03 (permalink)
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    From what I am hearing Ryzen 4000 will be AMD’s largest jump in performance since original Ryzen from Bulldozer.



    Yeah from what I've heard this is supposed to be 7nm in its final form... so I hope the IPC improvements really shine through.



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    Re: AMD Zen 3 EPYC "Genesis" A0 sample specs leak - Due to release this year 2020/07/15 18:39:32 (permalink)
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    From what I am hearing Ryzen 4000 will be AMD’s largest jump in performance since original Ryzen from Bulldozer.



    Yeah from what I've heard this is supposed to be 7nm in its final form... so I hope the IPC improvements really shine through.

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