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AMD "Zen 2" IPC 29 Percent Higher than "Zen"

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2018/11/12 02:18:23 (permalink)
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-zen2-ipc-has-29-percent-higher-ipc.html
 
MD reportedly put out its IPC (instructions per clock) performance guidance for its upcoming "Zen 2" micro-architecture in a version of its Next Horizon investor meeting, and the numbers are staggering. The next-generation CPU architecture provides a massive 29 percent IPC uplift over the original "Zen" architecture. Zen 2 gets a brand-new front-end that's better optimized to distribute and collect workloads between the various on-die components of the core. The number-crunching machinery gets bolstered by 256-bit FPUs, and generally wider execution pipelines and windows. These come together yielding the IPC uplift. "Zen 2" will get its first commercial outing with AMD's 2nd generation EPYC "Rome" 64-core enterprise processors. Hopefully this will soon be followed by the consumer versions. 

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    Re: AMD "Zen 2" IPC 29 Percent Higher than "Zen" 2018/11/12 06:02:04 (permalink)
    Pondering holding off till Threadripper 3 variants. 29% is worth the wait imho.
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    Re: AMD "Zen 2" IPC 29 Percent Higher than "Zen" 2018/11/12 06:14:14 (permalink)
    Performance increase that's valid only for the MCM configuration of Threadripper and EPYC and only on specific workload like AVX, we will see if it's just my concern
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    Re: AMD "Zen 2" IPC 29 Percent Higher than "Zen" 2018/11/12 06:17:59 (permalink)
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    Performance increase that's valid only for the MCM configuration of Threadripper and EPYC and only on specific workload like AVX, we will see if it's just my concern


    Yes, that is what I read.  They significantly improved AVX performance.  The largest IPC improvements will be task specific.


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    Re: AMD "Zen 2" IPC 29 Percent Higher than "Zen" 2018/11/13 03:57:08 (permalink)
    I'm more curious about the Ryzen line
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    Re: AMD "Zen 2" IPC 29 Percent Higher than "Zen" 2018/11/13 08:01:55 (permalink)
    I read the bulk of IPC gains are from the move to 256-bit AVX2 and not indicative of real world gains in software that lacks support (i.e. games). Let's not jump to conclusions here.

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    Re: AMD "Zen 2" IPC 29 Percent Higher than "Zen" 2018/11/13 11:34:41 (permalink)
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    I read the bulk of IPC gains are from the move to 256-bit AVX2 and not indicative of real world gains in software that lacks support (i.e. games). Let's not jump to conclusions here.

    And yet those people who encode will see massive gains, as x265 is very AVX heavy.  Sorry but there are more to computers than just "games" :P.  

     

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    Re: AMD "Zen 2" IPC 29 Percent Higher than "Zen" 2018/11/13 11:41:43 (permalink)
    It'll be a win/win from my perspective. Either my wait will be rewarded with a great new chip with much better performance or my 2700X and DDR4 memory purchase should be easier on the wallet at that point.


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    Re: AMD "Zen 2" IPC 29 Percent Higher than "Zen" 2018/11/15 08:05:32 (permalink)
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    I read the bulk of IPC gains are from the move to 256-bit AVX2 and not indicative of real world gains in software that lacks support (i.e. games). Let's not jump to conclusions here.

    And yet those people who encode will see massive gains, as x265 is very AVX heavy.  Sorry but there are more to computers than just "games" :P.  
    I was playing Devil's Advocate.


    I already recognize that since I don't play games often, but the vast majority of enthusiasts that read (into) rumor and visit websites like these tend to be gamers and disregard the world around them, they will assume 29% refers to their uses and when it doesn't happen they will blame AMD for misleading or lying.

    I've seen this attitude happen for over a decade.

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    Re: AMD "Zen 2" IPC 29 Percent Higher than "Zen" 2018/11/16 23:08:08 (permalink)
    If they really do fix their AVX issue, I will buy AMD CPUs again. It's been quite a while.
    Crunching BOINC projects like primegrid, AMD was so slow vs. an Intel CPU. (Intel newer than Ivybridge)

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