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2019/06/24 16:20:30 (permalink)
I have an i7 9700k, was wondering what you pros recommend, I am using the Corsair H100i Pro AIO. I was thinking of moving up to the Corsair 280mm AIO, reason being is that I bought the H100i because I was going to use a smaller case. The case I have now is a Coolermaster MC500P, or I can go with an Air cooler. I have never had a air cooler and would not know how good they are compared to the Liquid Coolers. So wondering if I up grade to bigger rad and fans will that make a difference in cooling the CPU?
So I am asking for you Pro's for your advice.
Here is my part list of my build.
Thanks in advance guys.

CPU: Intel i9 10850k
MOBO: Rog Maximus XII Hero Z490
GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra OVERCLOCKED
RAM: Corsiar Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB 3200MHZ
AIO: Corsair H100i Pro RGB
PSU: Corsair HX1000i
SSD: 1 v-NAND SSD 970 PRO 2 TB
CASE: COOL MASTER MC500P
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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 16:23:22 (permalink)
    An AIO Cooler over an Air Cooler any day.
    I use Both and the 360 is Supper
      View System  &  View System & View System
    Alphacool 11286 Eisbaer 360 CPU - Black Water Cooling Kits, Systems and AIOs $174.99
    or
      View System
    Alphacool 11285 Eisbaer 240 CPU - Black Water Cooling Kits, Systems and AIOs $149.99
     
    I have not tried this one Yet!
     
     
    Alphacool 11390 Eisbaer 420 CPU - Black Water Cooling Kits, $184.99
     
    I do also have two Kits, you need 2 Kits for one AIO.

    Alphacool 12563 Eisbaer GPX Extension Set (Tubes and Fittings) Water Cooling Kits, Systems and AIOs $14.25 + $5.63 shipping
    Look hard and you can find them without having to pay shipping.
     
    I may take a look at this one as well.
     

    Alphacool 11594 Eisbaer Extreme Liquid CPU Cooler 280 - Black Edition Water Cooling Kits, Systems and AIOs $279.99
     
    Their Coolant
    Alphacool CKC Cape Kelvin Catcher Fluid for PC Liquid Cooling Systems (1000mL)
    Shake it, Shake it, Shake it and I even filtered it with some Coffee Filters 2 times.
     
    I am no longer a fan of Corsair Products and for AIO I went over to Alphacool but it can be hard to find.
    https://www.performance-pcs.com/ is a good place to look.
     
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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 17:03:37 (permalink)
    Thanks so much for you advice man. 

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 18:21:16 (permalink)
    AIO has advantages
     
    The need for a bigger radiator would depend on your OC & current temps & fan speeds

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:05:10 (permalink)
    Well I am just using the ASUS auto OC, I have been checking the temps and while playing bf5 I see my cpu temp stay at about 60c to 62c? Wondering if I did get the the bigger AIO if that would help temps? 
     
    I have my AIO fans at full speed, and also my case fans when I game.
    post edited by battlelog - 2019/06/24 19:09:28

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:10:29 (permalink)
    60°C to 62°C is Great for your CPU. Anything below 70°C fine as it is summertime now.
    Are the Fans Pulling in Cool Air into the case or Exhausting Hot Air out of the case?
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    TJUNCTION is 100°C for that CPU
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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:17:48 (permalink)
    Air. Better reliability imo.
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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:17:55 (permalink)
    I have the AIO on top of my case, so I guess a pull config and my back fan is also pull config. My front 3 fans are pulling cool air in, so I guess in a pull config to?? 
     
    I was wondering if I added 2 more to the AIO, since the fans are on the bottom of the rad and pull config, how about if I add 2 more fans in a pull config on top, would that help? I am not use to seeing the 60c, use to seeing Fahrenheit, lol. 
     
    What do you think?
     
     

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:21:42 (permalink)
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    Air. Better reliability imo.




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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:22:44 (permalink)
    I still stand by my statement.
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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:24:06 (permalink)
    I wish I could do that but I have pets, dogs and cats, lol. I would imagine that gets really dusty???

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:24:50 (permalink)
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    I have the AIO on top of my case, so I guess a pull config and my back fan is also pull config. My front 3 fans are pulling cool air in, so I guess in a pull config to?? 
     
    I was wondering if I added 2 more to the AIO, since the fans are on the bottom of the rad and pull config, how about if I add 2 more fans in a pull config on top, would that help? I am not use to seeing the 60c, use to seeing Fahrenheit, lol. 
     
    What do you think?

    I do run mine in Push/Pull.
    You will see better Temperature with lower fan speeds it will not be so loud.

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:25:55 (permalink)
    battlelog
    I wish I could do that but I have pets, dogs and cats, lol. I would imagine that gets really dusty???

    Yea, he could clean out them Fans on his Corsair AIO CPU Cooler
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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:27:46 (permalink)
    To be honest its not really that loud, does not bug me, play with a headset so can not hear the fans. 

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:29:05 (permalink)
    battlelog
    To be honest its not really that loud, does not bug me, play with a headset so can not hear the fans. 

    I think you should be fine.
    Summer will get Hot this Year so just check them once in awhile.

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:30:36 (permalink)
    Ok cool, I am very neat and clean person so I dust out my rig every week!! lol, lol. I take care of it more than anything, well thats what my wife says, lol.
     

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:32:27 (permalink)
    I might try that push pull config on the AIO.
     
     

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 19:43:41 (permalink)

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/24 23:57:50 (permalink)
    I saw a test that showed that air can beat a CLC but I like a CLC because it's got less weight attached to the motherboard. I don't see the modern coolers that attach from the back causing much trouble but it just seems safer to have a lighter CLC on the CPU socket.

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/25 02:44:48 (permalink)
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    An AIO Cooler over an Air Cooler any day.
    I use Both and the 360 is Supper
      View System  &  View System & View System
    Alphacool 11286 Eisbaer 360 CPU - Black Water Cooling Kits, Systems and AIOs $174.99
    or
      View System
    Alphacool 11285 Eisbaer 240 CPU - Black Water Cooling Kits, Systems and AIOs $149.99
     
    I have not tried this one Yet!
     
     
    Alphacool 11390 Eisbaer 420 CPU - Black Water Cooling Kits, $184.99
     
    I do also have two Kits, you need 2 Kits for one AIO.

    Alphacool 12563 Eisbaer GPX Extension Set (Tubes and Fittings) Water Cooling Kits, Systems and AIOs $14.25 + $5.63 shipping
    Look hard and you can find them without having to pay shipping.
     
    I may take a look at this one as well.
     

    Alphacool 11594 Eisbaer Extreme Liquid CPU Cooler 280 - Black Edition Water Cooling Kits, Systems and AIOs $279.99
     
    Their Coolant
    Alphacool CKC Cape Kelvin Catcher Fluid for PC Liquid Cooling Systems (1000mL)
    Shake it, Shake it, Shake it and I even filtered it with some Coffee Filters 2 times.
     
    I am no longer a fan of Corsair Products and for AIO I went over to Alphacool but it can be hard to find.
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    Why you are not fan of CORSAIR Hybrid AIO Liquid Cooling System any more?
    You had some disaster, bad experience with technical support or you think Alphacool are better.
    I don't know Watercool.de, Swiftech, Koolance looks like highest quality watercooling parts, of course Bitspower some products and HW Labs radiators. 
    Watercool and Aqua Computer more looks like companies who want to represent famous German quality.
    And I think they made in Germany but OK all of them produce parts for building custom system.
    Why CORSAIR...? Only 3 AIO systems I had were CORSAIR H50/H70 Asetek, H100 CoollT.

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/25 09:49:36 (permalink)
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    Why you are not fan of CORSAIR Hybrid AIO Liquid Cooling System any more?

    Do not care for their software or quality of their products any longer.
    Support level is down and their website is outdated and not keeping up with motherboard makers (Memory).
    I still use their Memory but nothing else.
    Alphacool Cools better and can be expanded unlike Corsair AIO.
    I can replace the Pump on the Alphacool or even replace the Radiator as I have done.
    It is what some of us was waiting for EVGA to bring to the table but never did.
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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/25 14:12:22 (permalink)
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    Alphacool Cools better and can be expanded unlike Corsair AIO.
    I can replace the Pump on the Alphacool or even replace the Radiator as I have done.
    It is what some of us was waiting for EVGA to bring to the table but never did.


    What's your thought on that 360?   I was talking to modmymods about stuff and while I'm still probably going with custom loop stuff from them, early on they pointed out the alphacool expandable AIO stuff and at the same time didn't recommend going past a 280.  I got the impression maybe they thought the 360 didn't have enough pump to be effective or maybe it was a price:performance ratio thing.  I didn't actually ask.

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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/25 15:48:56 (permalink)
    @ flyinion I only had one unit I had to Flush Out and replace the Coolant (Filtered) I have 4 of them 3 360 & 1 240)
    But they seem to run very well.
    (I think the 240 is to Small for the X299 Platform)
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    Re: AIO or AIR Cooler 2019/06/27 12:17:33 (permalink)
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    Why you are not fan of CORSAIR Hybrid AIO Liquid Cooling System any more?

    Do not care for their software or quality of their products any longer.
    Support level is down and their website is outdated and not keeping up with motherboard makers (Memory).
    I still use their Memory but nothing else.
    Alphacool Cools better and can be expanded unlike Corsair AIO.
    I can replace the Pump on the Alphacool or even replace the Radiator as I have done.
    It is what some of us was waiting for EVGA to bring to the table but never did.


    I am steering away from Corsair as well. Went all Thermaltake Riing Plus fans and Level 20 GT case and one noctua for my video card hybrid AIO cooler in my current build. Went with NZXT for my cpu AIO cooler. Only thing I have left of Corsair is a K70 Silent MX keyboard which I absolutely love, and their new RGB Corsair Dominator Platinum ram. 
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