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2021/09/03 09:11:48 (permalink)
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Hi folks, back when sandy bridge was the hot new thing my local micro-center was having a fire sale of x58 hardware. I picked up everything I needed to upgrade my 790i system to a x58 system, even a pair of 7970s and water cooling bits, if I recall right I had trouble getting the water cooling bits to work and went back to my 790i system. I shelved the x58 parts and some how forgot about them.
Fast forwarded to 2021 and I was moving to a new home witch led me finding a box full of the x58 parts practically new aside from some dust collecting on them from setting for 10 years.
So I thought to myself why not sell my x79 system to help pay for the move and switch to the x58 platform? Makes since, like why not just sell the x58 parts??? No that would be dumb... Yeah sell my rampage IV, Xeon 1680v2 and 980ti to switch to a x58 system with a much slower CPU and a pair of 7970s. I think I should go get my head checked out!  

Anyway I cannibalized the x79 system keeping the SSDs, PSU and ram selling the rest. I then knew I would be needing a case more suited for water cooling, lucky me I had bought a old massive server from a recycling center a year or so ago, but the place closed down due to covid and never shipped the order or cancelled the sale. Not long after I got settled into my new home I got a email form the recycling center apologizing about the delay offering a refund. I told them I still wanted it and they shipped out.

Here is the TLDR part.
10 years ago I bought the parts for a x58 system, never built the system and now I am.

OK on to the build.
More walls of text, sorry.

Parts list.
No name massively large server case from the late 90s.
Asus P6t deluxe v2 motherboard.
Xeon x5687. (OG CPU was a i7-920 but for 10$ I got the Xeon.)
24gb DDR3 2133mhz. (Pulled from my x79 system.)
dual HD 7970. One of my two cards were dead.
2 250gb Mx500 SSDs in raid 0. (Pulled from my x79 system.)
1 2tb Seagate barracuda HDD. (Pulled from my x79 system.)
Sound-blaster live. Card does not work in win7.
No name pump's. (Recent buy as I did not have find a pump among the parts.)
3/8" tubing. I had to switch to 1/4 tubing due to a tight spot around the GPUs.
Phobya UC-1 Extreme CPU block.
Swiftech MCW82 GPU block and passive heatsink.
XSPC 120mm rad fans.
3 92mm and 1 120mm scythe case fans.
PCP&C 950w PSU (Same PSU from my 790i system.)
WinXP/7&linux boot

The Build.
OK I'll have to mod the case a little, it’s a server case from the late 90s. No clue who made it, But its massive. It had a dual slot 1 board on one side of the case and a ribbon cable going to a passive back plane board on the back side of the case with some SCSI cards.

I cut a hole out in the back for a 240mm rad and found a bracket to mount a 360mm up front. I had room for 2 420mm rad’s but chose to stick to a 240mm and 360mm since that is what I had. 
I found a PSU bracket that I was able to cut up and mod to fit a ATX PSU in the case, the case was setup for 3 PSU's, none of which were ATX. I put a 120mm fan over the hole for the second PSU, the 3rd PSU slot was taken over by the 240mm rad.

I discovered why I never used the water cooling part last night, the Swiftech MCW82 blocks I had bought did not have the 7970 mounts or base plate. For those that do not know the 7900 cards have a die/core cover that sit higher up then the GPU core so flat heatsinks will not work. It would seem Swiftech made a upgrade kit for the block but I'm not shelling out 40 bucks for what is more or less a new block. To fix this I bought a copper spacer shim and the best non liquid metal thermal compound I could find. Temps will likely suck but its better then not using a spacer shim.


Planned Upgrades.
Revo Drive, I know NVME drives with legacy boot support like the 950 pro would work, but the system is a bit of a time capsule and a NVME drive would be out of place, a revo drive would work in XP/7 too.
D5 pump.
Reservoir, right now I have a T-line setup. I installed a swiftech micro res.
A second 24gb of ram. I have a extra stick of the same ram so I’d need just two more sticks of the same ram to make it 48gb.
New PSU, the unit I have has been in use for like 12 years if not longer, it’s time to replace it.
Better fan wiring. Right now the system has 3 92mm and 6 120mm all wired up via Molex adapters. I want to get a distribution block witch would clean up the mess of splitters and adapters.
 
Planned Case Mods.
Once I get a new PSU and pump for the system I will do some more case modding. 
Divider to cover the gaping hole under the motherboard tray.
Cut holes in the motherboard tray for cable management.
Cut a hole in the motherboard tray behind the CPU for access to the CPU blocks mounting hardware
Drill holes in the motherboard tray behind the CPU for a 120mm fan



The system as 9-14-21
For now the system is done. Ill be saving up for a new PSU, revodrive and a few small bits like a sound card and will update the thread when that happens.








post edited by austin86 - 2021/09/16 11:33:54
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/03 09:18:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby austin86 2021/09/03 09:32:02
The X58 platform was one of Intel's best. Looking forward to your pictures.

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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/03 09:31:58 (permalink)
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The X58 platform was one of Intel's best. Looking forward to your pictures.


Indeed. Funny thing is I worked on a handful of x58 systems in recent years, I always wanted a x58 system since I got my hands on one 2 years back. And to think I had all the parts sitting in a closet for so many years. Better late then never I guess.
Sadly the case I have has almost no room between the GPU and side panels so I have to rotate the GPU blocks 90deg witch looks awful, Luckily I bought universal block all them years ago so I was able to rotate them. If I had full cover blocks Id be stuck getting different GPU as I no longer have the stock heatinks.
 
But don't go getting your hopes up, the system lacks a side window and I'm building it on a shoe string budget when I could use new shoes. So in other words it not going to look glamorous, at least not for now. Latter down the road when I get a new PSU and other parts in my planed upgrades I'll be making it look good.
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/03 15:23:08 (permalink)
Lets mod the stock gpu block mounting bracket to fit a 7970. The 7970 has a slightly longer distance between the holes. About.5mm witch is enough to make the stock mounts not work.

Since I’m a black smith I chose to punch out the stock screw posts. I used my anvils punch hole and a hammer for this.


A couple hammer whacks and the posts were gone.


I then used a custom made hardy tool to flatten the pice back out.


And the end result is ugly but works. I could polish it up but at some point I’ll replace the mount with the correct ones so no big deal for now.
post edited by austin86 - 2021/09/03 15:33:00
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/04 01:18:18 (permalink)
Very interesting. Thanks for the pictures. 

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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/04 07:44:43 (permalink)
10 years.... Looking forward to the pics
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/04 10:25:49 (permalink)
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Very interesting. Thanks for the pictures. 

Yeah not sure why amd spaced the screw holes a half mill more apart. But the rigged mounts will work for now.

Ok I had the water cooling rigged up, but its so ugly I took it all apart and will be rethinking things. I only have about 5/8 of a inch between the video card and side panel so I’m thinking of switching to dual loops and useing 1/4 tubbing for the GPUs. The smaller tubbing will let me plumb it in a more normal method.
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/04 13:08:48 (permalink)
Always fun to dig up old tech - I've got a watercooled (custom loop w/240 EK PE Rad) FX-60 in a DFI Lanparty NF4 Expert with 2 x aircooled GTX 295's sitting on my test bench ATM.  
 
I resurrected/built a X58 system for my son about 6 months ago just for playing Diablo and something his girlfriend could use when he's gaming on his main rig. Used an i930 cooled with a Corsair H80i, Gigabyte GA-X58a-UD3, 12GB 2133MHz RAM, GTX 970 SC, Corsair CX650M PSU, Samsung 850 Evo 250GB SSD & 1GB Seagate Barracuda mounted in a Lian Li Armorsuit PC-P50 mid-tower. 
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/04 16:16:54 (permalink)
I’ll definitely have to find a cleaner way to plumb the GPUs but at least it’s looking a lot better. I think a few 90 degree fittings would help clean up the loop. I thought about making the whole system 1/4 tubbing, maybe I’ll do that when I put a res and better pump in the system


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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/04 18:41:37 (permalink)
 
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/04 21:04:15 (permalink)
I decided to swap the whole system over to 1/4in tubbing. The mix of 1/4 and 3/8 loops looks rather messy. And best of all I can get rid of the mess of tubbing around the GPUs.
I only needed a few more fittings to make it work. I might as well get a res wile I'm at it as a T-line setup with 1/4in tubbing is nearly impossible to bleed the air out of.

Its looking cleaner all ready.



And fo those wondering were the radiators are, well they’re on the back side of the case.



Here are some shots of the case



So now I need to wait for the extra 1/4 fittings and the copper spacer shims for the 7970s
post edited by austin86 - 2021/09/04 21:09:09
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/08 06:36:55 (permalink)
A small update. I received the copper spacer shims for the 7970s last night. I found that 5mm thick spacer was a hair to thin and used a 8mm spacer. Its odd as the shim EK use to sell was 5mm thick, but then again EK is know for cutting corners so that does not surprise me at all that they'd sell a 5mm shim when one would need a slightly thicker shim.
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/10 16:00:25 (permalink)
I received the last of the parts. I got the 6 last needed fittings and the swiftech micro res.



Now I just need to swing down to the hardware store and get some more tubing as I’m out and need just a few feet more.
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/11 17:52:47 (permalink)
Man that is neat! Cool project

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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/11 23:30:13 (permalink)
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Man that is neat! Cool project

Thanks. Its definitely a different kind of project.

I got the system up and going tonight, but not without some hiccups. The sandblaster live dose not support windows 7. I came across a now defunct 3rd party driver project that’s supposed to have had a win7 driver but I can’t find a copy so I’ll likely swap the card for a first gen audigy witch still has EAX support for the XP boot and dos support, however the dos support isn’t anything like the live sadly.
I also ran into some odd bugs with the 7970. They’re performing well, but the core temp os reading 0c no matter what tool I used to check them and form what I seen online I should be able ot read the VRM tmeps too but nothing shows a opinion for that. I’m betting its a driver thing, I’ll try a older driver tomorrow.

I also installed some sound dampening/dust filer sheets in the case today as well. Ill get some photos tomorrow morning of the progress.

And for those wondering, the CPU load temps are around 40-45c, oddly core one runs about 5c hotter.
 
 
EDIT:
sorry for the lack of photos, I had a work place emergency, some plumbing problems at home on top of a all ready busy weekend that took up most of my free time the last two days. I'll get some photos tonight.
post edited by austin86 - 2021/09/13 06:07:14
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/13 23:15:22 (permalink)
Sorry for the lack of photos. I was trying to find out why the GPUs were both reporting 0c core temps and found out the second GPU was dead. So unlucky me had to take the PC and loop all apart to get the second 7970 out.
I thought about getting a replacement but I think I’ll stick to one GPU so I can use the two bottom PCIe slots for say a sata3 and usb 3 card or something of the sorts.
 
EDIT:
I'd love to have a second 7970 but I think freeing up the 2 last PCIe slots for sata/usb 3 and maybe NVME or a second revo drive is the right thing to do. Maybe when GPU prices come down I can replace the 7970 with a newer mid range card.
 
post edited by austin86 - 2021/09/14 06:03:39
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/14 00:48:03 (permalink)
Looking forward to final pics

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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/14 06:03:28 (permalink)
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Looking forward to final pics


Thanks, I have a little bit of cable management to do and it will be done for now.
 
I'll for sure get photos tonight, that is if I don't get stuck with anther POS failure at work or family/home emergency.
Anyway I was able to get the system stable at 200Bclk, CPU at 4ghz and the ram at 2ghz 10-10-10 timings. I'll have a lot of more tweaking to do, I'm sure I can push the ram more and the the CPU for sure. I'm hopping I can get 4.2-4.4ghz on the CPU and CL9 on the ram at 2ghz if not a higher ram clock at cl10.
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/14 16:49:38 (permalink)
Ok, I have system back together with just the one GPU and did some basic cable management. Since I plan to replace the PSU soon I didn’t go to far with the cable management. For now the system is done. Ill be saving up for a new PSU, revodrive and a few small bits like a sound card.






post edited by austin86 - 2021/09/14 16:57:28
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/14 16:49:39 (permalink)
So far the OC is looking good.

 
EDIT:
Sorry for the blurry image, I'll retake it tonight.
Also next on the chopping block in cleaning up the case. There is a lot of scratches and some rust on the case that need fixed. 
post edited by austin86 - 2021/09/15 06:09:44
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/16 07:14:47 (permalink)
Sometime down the road when I get the new pump and PSU I will be modding the case some more. I want to cut holes for cable management, add a divider on the lower half of the case and cut out a hole to access the CPU heatsink mounts. I was thinking, since its a dual compartment case and I have the room/air flow, the CPU heatsink can double as a 120mm fan slot sine all Id have to do is add 4 screw holes. That should drop PCB/NB temps a little.
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/17 17:53:10 (permalink)
That's a cool old school build. The server case provides some nice room. 
 
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Re: A x58 build 10 years in the making. 2021/09/18 06:27:29 (permalink)
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That's a cool old school build. The server case provides some nice room. 
 
[mods rig is having issues, can't +1 or anything.] 

The case definitely has a lot of room. I Only wished it had more room between the gpu and side panel so I could use bigger tubbing.
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