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2020/10/28 10:20:32 (permalink)
AMD counter attacks and it’s glorious. Now i’m a big EVGA fan so i do not really care about AMD. Thing is for the same performance +/-% wise, AMD is less expensive by a couple hundred bucks depending on the card.

Can we expect a price adjustment from NVIDIA ?

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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 10:22:08 (permalink)
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 10:30:49 (permalink)
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    AMD counter attacks and it’s glorious. Now i’m a big EVGA fan so i do not really care about AMD. Thing is for the same performance +/-% wise, AMD is less expensive by a couple hundred bucks depending on the card.

    Can we expect a price adjustment from NVIDIA ?

    Cheers !

    most likely expect the 3080 ti and 3090ti. or at the least a 3080 with more than 10gb of 6x.


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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 10:47:47 (permalink)
    Holy ****!
     
    Anyone want a very lightly used 3080 FTW3 Ultra?

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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 10:51:01 (permalink)
    Well.. if I am still waiting for my 3080 or 3090 and could get a 6900XT... guess what.. off I go to AMD..
     
     


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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 10:55:31 (permalink)
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    Holy ****!
     
    Anyone want a very lightly used 3080 FTW3 Ultra?


     
    I would gladly 

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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 11:19:28 (permalink)
    I’m close to get the email for the 3090 Ultra and now not sure what to do. $1799 for the 3090 and $999 for the 6900XT. 

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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 11:25:55 (permalink)
    https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3130535
     
    yes, amazing press release show.  Very favorable for us consumers , due to the competition

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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 11:41:52 (permalink)
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    I’m close to get the email for the 3090 Ultra and now not sure what to do. $1799 for the 3090 and $999 for the 6900XT. 




    Is this a serious question? For $1800 you can build an entire AMD computer with 5000 series CPU, motherboard, and memory along with 6900XT. 
     
    BTW, I called this months ago, here's my reply over on r/Nvidia (r/Nvidia handle = EcstaticBeginning) 
     
     

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    I think the only winner is really the 6900 XT. The 6800XT trades blows with the 3080 but with no DLSS-like feature, AMD has history of bad drivers, and they didn't show Ray-tracing performance cuz it's likely worse (based on leaks) and they didn't mention anything about an improved video encoder which leads me to believe it's the same old crappy one. NVENC RTX saves a TON of cpu usage since it's on par with x264 medium. My 3800x even hits 100% CPU on x264 medium in modern games, so NVENC is a lifesaver for streaming.If 6800Xt was like $150 cheaper than the 3080, I'd say it was a winner. but only $50 is a no-brainer to go with Nvidia. the 6800 is a waste all together when the 3070 is much cheaper for around the same performance.The only place AMD really seems to win is the 6900, but only for GAMING due to "low" memory, given that the 24 GBs was a big reason creators went with the 3090

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    6800XT is priced accordingly given current market conditions, unlike the 30 series GPU's everyone who wants an AMD 6000 series card will be able to buy one. It's already been stated ad nauseum by AMD that there will be ample supply.Given that the only 3080's one can buy at present are $1500 scalped units on ebay $675 or whatever for a comparably priced card is a bargain.Not to mention those of us with older Intel CPU's (i7 8700k here) looking to upgrade to an AMD platform, that even more performance can be extracted with 5000 series CPU and 6000 GPU is that much more enticing!Add in the fact that Direct X path tracing is the future of path tracing (Nvidia's RT will go the way of the G-Sync module) given that both the APU's in the next gen consoles, whose games will facilitate path tracing on the same architecture, will accomplish this with Direct X makes this a long term purchase.Sure, you may have better performance with RT right now, but what about next year, or the year after that when as with PhysX, 3D Vision and G-Sync Nvidia gives their proprietary tensor core based RT the axe? Nvidia rushed Ampere out of the door on an inferior node to get in front of AMD because they probably saw this coming.The real elephant in the room is that the $1000 6900XT @ 300w trades blows with the $1500 3090 @ 400w.Nvidia is stick a fork in it done, not sure even if a $1000 80 Ti with cut down GA-102-300 can save them at this point. They will need to upgrade from Samsung 8nm EUV to 7nm TSMC or die.I called all of this months ago (and was subsequently banned from OC.net):OC.net handle = Mooncheese: https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-nvidia-rtx-3090-owners-club.1753930/page-60

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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 11:44:35 (permalink)
    3090 is overpriced. Will 6900XT cost less and perform better? Definitely not.
     
    The chart comparing the 6900XT vs 3090 had SAM and "rage" mode enabled. I have no idea how much SAM actually helps, but I'm assuming rage mode is something like OC tuner on afterburner so we're seeing a bone stock 3090 vs an overclocked 6900XT with SAM enabled. Overclock your 3090 and you'll see it pull ahead. EVGA get that 500w bios to work and 3090 is good.
     
    Again AMD wins the value proposition, Nvidia wins top tier performance.
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 11:53:33 (permalink)
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    Well.. if I am still waiting for my 3080 or 3090 and could get a 6900XT... guess what.. off I go to AMD..
     
     




    Good luck with their trash drivers then.
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 11:58:07 (permalink)
    Very interesting, I'm actually disappointed at the prices of a card that can't actually do ray tracing. Even if it's enabled through drivers, they should be able to produce port royal numbers but I'm not seeing that. It does look like they are going to pull in a lot of new customers just because their product will actually be available, so that will be great for the users that are using AMD. However, numbers and charts between NVIDIA and AMD have been deceptive. The RX 5700XT cards I ran all had about the same performance as my RTX 2080 in many games if you only look at FPS numbers. However, the overall experience was way worse and the lag effect I experienced on AMD was hard to explain because the frame rates were higher but weird things like rubber-banding effects would happen in first person shooters. I spent far too much time reimaging my hard drives to get a clean install of windows so I could troubleshoot the issues, things that you would think are related to other hardware were becoming problems only when I installed an AMD card... I'll be skipping them this go around, I just hope this series gets enough people for them to iron out a lot of those problems.

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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 11:58:42 (permalink)
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    3090 is overpriced. Will 6900XT cost less and perform better? Definitely not.
     
    The chart comparing the 6900XT vs 3090 had SAM and "rage" mode enabled. I have no idea how much SAM actually helps, but I'm assuming rage mode is something like OC tuner on afterburner so we're seeing a bone stock 3090 vs an overclocked 6900XT with SAM enabled. Overclock your 3090 and you'll see it pull ahead. EVGA get that 500w bios to work and 3090 is good.
     
    Again AMD wins the value proposition, Nvidia wins top tier performance.




    "Were seeing bone stock 3090 performance". Oh yeah, because that additional 10% that is available at 550W with a shunt truly changes things! The 3090 is a REAL overclocker for sure, 5% overclock on tap without a shunt, WOO HOO. You totally have a point here. We need to show the 3090 @ 600w for another 10% performance running on par with the 6900XT @ 300w with Rage Mode and 5000 series platform to be fair. Then it's a fair comparison!
     
    If you think this is hyperbole, it's not, 3090 is a lousy overclocker because at 390w it's already well beyond the power efficiency curve, I've already elucidated all of this in great detail here (OC.net handle = Mooncheese): 
     
    https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-nvidia-rtx-3090-owners-club.1753930/page-60
     
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 11:59:30 (permalink)
    Makes sense if you already have the AMD tech needed to reach those numbers. It's kind of like a Diablo 3 set bonus.

    If you have Intel, the Radeon will likely underperform. We'll have to wait for benchmarks to be sure, though.
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 12:02:39 (permalink)
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    3090 is overpriced. Will 6900XT cost less and perform better? Definitely not.
     
    The chart comparing the 6900XT vs 3090 had SAM and "rage" mode enabled. I have no idea how much SAM actually helps, but I'm assuming rage mode is something like OC tuner on afterburner so we're seeing a bone stock 3090 vs an overclocked 6900XT with SAM enabled. Overclock your 3090 and you'll see it pull ahead. EVGA get that 500w bios to work and 3090 is good.
     
    Again AMD wins the value proposition, Nvidia wins top tier performance.


    Even if you wanted the baddest GPU possible, it's hard to justify 500$ more for 5 more FPS in some games (and equal if not worst in others) regardless of how you call it.

    Also Jay Linus or Steve (can't remember watched too many videos last hours) said rage was around 1 / 2% and the other part of the % perf increase was due to SAM, so, having a Ryzen CPU is when you'll get better performance.
     
    And speaking of OC the cards, they (3090) already are hitting a brick wall, boosting slightly more is crashing in some games which was the reason why there was a SP-Caps debate at all despite not being totally related. A 500W bios or even for that matter the 450w vbios isn't for gaming but OC competition / fun. It will shorten your card at not much more performance in games. 
     
    And following the same logic you might be able to OC more the 6900XT too. Or the Infinity timings for that matter. Nvidia lost, it's time to accept it. If not price performance, they'll lose sales as AMD will sell them like cookies. 
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 12:03:37 (permalink)
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    Very interesting, I'm actually disappointed at the prices of a card that can't actually do ray tracing. Even if it's enabled through drivers, they should be able to produce port royal numbers but I'm not seeing that. It does look like they are going to pull in a lot of new customers just because their product will actually be available, so that will be great for the users that are using AMD. However, numbers and charts between NVIDIA and AMD have been deceptive. The RX 5700XT cards I ran all had about the same performance as my RTX 2080 in many games if you only look at FPS numbers. However, the overall experience was way worse and the lag effect I experienced on AMD was hard to explain because the frame rates were higher but weird things like rubber-banding effects would happen in first person shooters. I spent far too much time reimaging my hard drives to get a clean install of windows so I could troubleshoot the issues, things that you would think are related to other hardware were becoming problems only when I installed an AMD card... I'll be skipping them this go around, I just hope this series gets enough people for them to iron out a lot of those problems.




    Oh yeah, NGreedia totally changed things with RT performance with the 30 series! RTX 3080 is a whopping 10% faster than overclocked 2080 Ti (11.5k vs 10.3k Port Royal). And look at that 3080 absolutely scream in newer games, look at this performance! 
     
    https://youtu.be/Ux6Wa0rZFa8
     
    Dude RT is ready for prime time! Meanwhile HDR costs next-to-nothing and absolutely annihilates ray tracing. 
     
    So glad I'm out of NGreedia's crummy ecosystem with price-gouging nonsense. $1500 for the 80 Ti card on garbage tier node (Samsung 8nm EUV is actually 10nm) , no thanks. And yes, it's the 80 Ti card, not the Titan card. 
     
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 12:05:25 (permalink)
    Just to be clear I prefer Nvidia and their software. Whats stopping me is not only the price difference however also who knows what Nvidia might do to complete. If I pay $1799 for the Evga 3090 Ultra and Nvidia brings out a 3080ti or Super for $1000 that beats my 3090 I won’t be happy. I feel like Nvidia is going to be forced to do something. As for your comment about the AMD 5000 series, motherboard and the 6900XT that’s not true. Someone that’s in the market for a 3090 or 6900XT they aren’t buying the lower end AMD cpu. They will be buying the $700 cpu plus a $250-400 motherboard. 

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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 12:12:17 (permalink)
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    3090 is overpriced. Will 6900XT cost less and perform better? Definitely not.
     
    The chart comparing the 6900XT vs 3090 had SAM and "rage" mode enabled. I have no idea how much SAM actually helps, but I'm assuming rage mode is something like OC tuner on afterburner so we're seeing a bone stock 3090 vs an overclocked 6900XT with SAM enabled. Overclock your 3090 and you'll see it pull ahead. EVGA get that 500w bios to work and 3090 is good.
     
    Again AMD wins the value proposition, Nvidia wins top tier performance.




    "Were seeing bone stock 3090 performance". Oh yeah, because that additional 10% that is available at 550W with a shunt truly changes things! The 3090 is a REAL overclocker for sure, 5% overclock on tap without a shunt, WOO HOO. You totally have a point here. We need to show the 3090 @ 600w for another 10% performance running on par with the 6900XT @ 300w with Rage Mode and 5000 series platform to be fair. Then it's a fair comparison!
     
    If you think this is hyperbole, it's not, 3090 is a lousy overclocker because at 390w it's already well beyond the power efficiency curve, I've already elucidated all of this in great detail here (OC.net handle = Mooncheese): 
     
    https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-nvidia-rtx-3090-owners-club.1753930/page-60
     
    So glad I'm out of NGreedia's crummy ecosystem with price-gouging nonsense. $1500 for the 80 Ti card on garbage tier node (Samsung 8nm EUV is actually 10nm) , no thanks. And yes, it's the 80 Ti card, not the Titan card. 
     
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    Oh well I never said 3090 was more efficient.. clearly 6900xt destroys it in price and power, but I wasn't sure on performance. If it overclocks like a beast with like what 400w on air and beats an overclocked 3090, then that would be sick but I'm just not sure it'll oc like that.

    Also, pretty sure they left the power draw out on the chart with ragemode on so I'm going to assume it was definitely more than 300w. But hey, still probably better than 3090's 400w.
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 12:48:20 (permalink)
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    Holy ****!
     
    Anyone want a very lightly used 3080 FTW3 Ultra?




    I'm sure plenty of people would be more than happy to pay you retail price of a new 3080 ftw3 ultra, even with these AMD announcements.
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 12:52:29 (permalink)
     
     
    Looks like the only 3000 series Nvidia GPU I might have a shot at by the time the AMD 6900XT is out is a EVGA 3090 FTW3 at $1800.  That's likely mid to late December for the 3090 and the 3080 January (looking at my queue positions).  I am seriously going to have to look at the reviews of the AMD offerings.  If I can save 800 and get close to 3090 performance or pay $200 more and get better then 3080 performance I will do that.
     
    Now if its just as bad or nearly as bad a launch with no product available for half a year or a year then whatever is available first is what I am getting.


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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 13:02:52 (permalink)
    flg2010
     
     
    Looks like the only 3000 series Nvidia GPU I might have a shot at by the time the AMD 6900XT is out is a EVGA 3090 FTW3 at $1800.  That's likely mid to late December for the 3090 and the 3080 January (looking at my queue positions).  I am seriously going to have to look at the reviews of the AMD offerings.  If I can save 800 and get close to 3090 performance or pay $200 more and get better then 3080 performance I will do that.
     
    Now if its just as bad or nearly as bad a launch with no product available for half a year or a year then whatever is available first is what I am getting.




    From my experience with my 3090, I have exceeded both 8 and 10GB of VRAM on quite a few occasions. The 6900XT fits that spot so well. Having the fog maxed and volumetric and riding up a ridge in RDR2, with the storm rolling in.. it was nuts. It also ate a ton of VRAM to do so. The 3080 should have shipped with 12-14GB.. 
     

     
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 20:20:02 (permalink)
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    most likely expect the 3080 ti and 3090ti. or at the least a 3080 with more than 10gb of 6x.




    It's certainly what Nvidia has done in the past...however, Nvidia is boxed into a corner this Gen.
     
    The 3080 has 68SM's. The 3090 has 82. The 3090 is a full GA102 die. So...no room on the silicon for a 3090Ti unless they went to a cut-down GA100 and that's a non-starter since the GA100 is made on TSMC.
     
    You could enable more SM's for a 3080Ti, but we have already seen the performance difference between the 3080 and 3090 is 10%. So, you could enable 6-8 more for a 3080Ti, to yield 5-7% boost? Is that enough? You'd also have to bump VRAM...so you wind up with a 76SM die with 20GB VRAM? At $1,200? Now you REALLY cannibalize the 3090. Who is going to pay $600 more for 5% and 4GB VRAM?
     
    The problem with Ampere is process (Samsung 8nm) and GDDR6X. 16gb/sec GDDR6 is shipping now. 19gb/sec is sampling. Build me a 3080Ti with 20GB GDDR6 on Samsung 7nm EUV and you'd get back all the OC headroom you could ask for.

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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/28 23:44:16 (permalink)
    I just find it silly people are getting excited about the numbers that AMD put out. NEVER trust the company that puts out these releases to show anything but the best benchmarks possible. I don't care what the product is. I mean NVIDIA showed 8K gameplay in select games on the 3090 and we know that while those few games are able to run at 8K (some with the help of DLSS) the majority of gaming doesn't. That was proved by the independent reviews.
     
    Hopefully things are good for these cards as it's good to see a war but really it's worth waiting until the independent reviews on the 18th to really get excited. What we haven't really seen is how well these cards do ray tracing. We also know these cards have an AMD response to DLSS but remember it wasn't until DLSS 2.0 that it didn't look noticeably bad. Who knows how AMD's answer will make the image quality until we can see it in action. At least with the 3070 and 3080 you know what you are getting because reviews are published by trusted sources who can show real numbers. That said if you want you can always enter the notify queue today and probably see a review on the 18th and decide to go NVIDIA or AMD based on the reviews.

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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/29 00:05:12 (permalink)
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    youcanteatthat

    most likely expect the 3080 ti and 3090ti. or at the least a 3080 with more than 10gb of 6x.




    It's certainly what Nvidia has done in the past...however, Nvidia is boxed into a corner this Gen.
     
    The 3080 has 68SM's. The 3090 has 82. The 3090 is a full GA102 die. So...no room on the silicon for a 3090Ti unless they went to a cut-down GA100 and that's a non-starter since the GA100 is made on TSMC.
     
    You could enable more SM's for a 3080Ti, but we have already seen the performance difference between the 3080 and 3090 is 10%. So, you could enable 6-8 more for a 3080Ti, to yield 5-7% boost? Is that enough? You'd also have to bump VRAM...so you wind up with a 76SM die with 20GB VRAM? At $1,200? Now you REALLY cannibalize the 3090. Who is going to pay $600 more for 5% and 4GB VRAM?
     
    The problem with Ampere is process (Samsung 8nm) and GDDR6X. 16gb/sec GDDR6 is shipping now. 19gb/sec is sampling. Build me a 3080Ti with 20GB GDDR6 on Samsung 7nm EUV and you'd get back all the OC headroom you could ask for.


    I was thinking the same thing! How the heck are they going to fit a card in between the 3080 and the 3090? Its vram. Its just a rumor but GA102-250-A1, 9984FP32, 384bits GD6X and the amount of vram it's supposed to have is 12gb according to a ES leak. I'm guessing they'll charge $1200 for it like they did for the 2080ti. They're reasoning for the 3090 being relevant would be 5% and 12gb more at $1500. Nvidia segmenting by vram now lol
     
    Oh and I'm guessing your 3080 ftw3 ultra overclocked will beat a 6900xt at 4k. At lower resolutions I see AMD taking it. You're probably already on that 450w bios right? If so, you're solid. 
    post edited by glocked89 - 2020/10/29 00:20:21
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/29 00:34:48 (permalink)
    Hoggle
    I just find it silly people are getting excited about the numbers that AMD put out. NEVER trust the company that puts out these releases to show anything but the best benchmarks possible. I don't care what the product is. I mean NVIDIA showed 8K gameplay in select games on the 3090 and we know that while those few games are able to run at 8K (some with the help of DLSS) the majority of gaming doesn't. That was proved by the independent reviews.
     
    Hopefully things are good for these cards as it's good to see a war but really it's worth waiting until the independent reviews on the 18th to really get excited. What we haven't really seen is how well these cards do ray tracing. We also know these cards have an AMD response to DLSS but remember it wasn't until DLSS 2.0 that it didn't look noticeably bad. Who knows how AMD's answer will make the image quality until we can see it in action. At least with the 3070 and 3080 you know what you are getting because reviews are published by trusted sources who can show real numbers. That said if you want you can always enter the notify queue today and probably see a review on the 18th and decide to go NVIDIA or AMD based on the reviews.


    So true. AMD was kinda slick on the way they presented the cards.
     
    Edit: I'm wrong about 6800 comparison to 3080.
    I assume an overclocked 3080 with a high power limit has the edge over an overclocked 6800XT.
    6900XT with ragemode and SAM enabled was compared to a stock(?) 3090 with no disclosure of power draw. I suspect ragemode overclocks the 6900XT well over 300w and with those clock speeds it probably doesn't have much headroom.
    post edited by glocked89 - 2020/10/29 07:32:49
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/29 01:28:31 (permalink)
    glocked89
    Hoggle
    I just find it silly people are getting excited about the numbers that AMD put out. NEVER trust the company that puts out these releases to show anything but the best benchmarks possible. I don't care what the product is. I mean NVIDIA showed 8K gameplay in select games on the 3090 and we know that while those few games are able to run at 8K (some with the help of DLSS) the majority of gaming doesn't. That was proved by the independent reviews.
     
    Hopefully things are good for these cards as it's good to see a war but really it's worth waiting until the independent reviews on the 18th to really get excited. What we haven't really seen is how well these cards do ray tracing. We also know these cards have an AMD response to DLSS but remember it wasn't until DLSS 2.0 that it didn't look noticeably bad. Who knows how AMD's answer will make the image quality until we can see it in action. At least with the 3070 and 3080 you know what you are getting because reviews are published by trusted sources who can show real numbers. That said if you want you can always enter the notify queue today and probably see a review on the 18th and decide to go NVIDIA or AMD based on the reviews.


    So true. AMD was kinda slick on the way they presented the cards.
     
    6800 was compared to a 2080ti and not a 3080 at 4k
    6800XT(300w) was compared to a 3080(320w) at 1440p and not 4k. Why go down resolution on a higher tier card? Ampere does really well at 4k
    6900XT with ragemode and SAM enabled was compared to a stock(?) 3090 with no disclosure of power draw. I suspect ragemode overclocks the 6900XT well over 300w and with those clock speeds it probably doesn't have much headroom.


    1. 6800 is a 3070 competitor not a 3080 so comparing it to a 2080ti is valid
    2. They did include 4k benchmarks
    3. I agree with you that part is misleading, I suspect the 6900xt was drawing similar power to the 3090.
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/29 06:32:23 (permalink)
    Nvidia is winning the PR war...as evidenced by so many people trying to compare performance at price points.
     
    6800 vs 3070
     
    6800XT vs 3080
     
    6900XT vs 3090
     
    It looks like for max performance out of Big Navi, you need Zen3 and a X570 chipset. Great. If I was building a rig from scratch.
     
    So, a Intel 10900k+3090 = Zen3+6900XT. My bet is Zen3+3090 is > Zen3+6900XT.
     
    Hardware Unboxed will be good for this test as they switched to a Ryzen test rig this year.

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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/29 06:49:19 (permalink)
    Did you even watch the presentation?
     
    1. 6800 is the competitor to the 2080ti and RTX 3070. 
    2. 6800XT charts were for both 4k and 1440p. They showed 4k first and then displayed the 1400p chart. 6800XT does well in both 4k and 1440p.
    3. RAGE mode was said to be a 1 - 2% increase in performance by a few tech reviewers. The major benefits are coming from SAM. In AMDs defense, more than likely there are going to be more customers purchasing AMD processors in the future, so pairing it up with a 6900XT and saving $500 from purchasing an RTX 3090 is a no brainer. 
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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/29 07:12:26 (permalink)
    wmangram
    Did you even watch the presentation?
     
    1. 6800 is the competitor to the 2080ti and RTX 3070. 
    2. 6800XT charts were for both 4k and 1440p. They showed 4k first and then displayed the 1400p chart. 6800XT does well in both 4k and 1440p.
    3. RAGE mode was said to be a 1 - 2% increase in performance by a few tech reviewers. The major benefits are coming from SAM. In AMDs defense, more than likely there are going to be more customers purchasing AMD processors in the future, so pairing it up with a 6900XT and saving $500 from purchasing an RTX 3090 is a no brainer. 





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    Re: 6900XT/6800XT 2020/10/29 07:28:11 (permalink)
    Oh man, my apologies! I just looked at the slides videocardz provided and went from there. Didn't mean to be misleading. I should have done been more thorough. Thanks to everyone for the proper information!
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