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2023/02/21 15:26:59 (permalink)
Reported by Moore's law is dead, we may see another shortage of 4090s again like after the launch , there are currenty 6 models available on instocknow if you were wondering and wanted to get one.
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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/21 22:25:46 (permalink)
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    Reported by Moore's law is dead, we may see another shortage of 4090s again like after the launch , there are currenty 6 models available on instocknow if you were wondering and wanted to get one.




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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/22 06:24:37 (permalink)
    I can't find the one I want at the retailers I'm willing to use, so I don't buy one...my 3090 is doing fine (purchased Day 1, works great....)
     

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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/22 06:42:43 (permalink)
    The fact that NVIDIA has introduced numerous models for sale tells me they are simply not making enough RTX 4090 GPU chips for their OEMs. 

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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/22 06:47:08 (permalink)
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    The fact that NVIDIA has introduced numerous models for sale tells me they are simply not making enough RTX 4090 GPU chips for their OEMs. 




    In fact, I thought they were trying to artificially keep supply low..? Didn't I read that somewhere?
     

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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/22 06:56:18 (permalink)
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    The fact that NVIDIA has introduced numerous models for sale tells me they are simply not making enough RTX 4090 GPU chips for their OEMs. 




    In fact, I thought they were trying to artificially keep supply low..? Didn't I read that somewhere?

     
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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/22 07:57:34 (permalink)
    RTX 4080s aren't selling well. It makes sense to me to ramp up RTX 4090 GPU chip manufacturing and lower demand for RTX 4080 GPU chips. 

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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/22 11:38:35 (permalink)
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    The fact that NVIDIA has introduced numerous models for sale tells me they are simply not making enough RTX 4090 GPU chips for their OEMs. 




    In fact, I thought they were trying to artificially keep supply low..? Didn't I read that somewhere?
     



    That's correct because they made a massive order with TSMC before the crypto bust.  No idea what geniuses at Nvidia in their right mind thought there would be a continuation of 2020 along with the overstock of the 3000 series?! 
     
    TSMC declined to reduce their order but only space out the inventory.  From the start, they were making small quantities and people thought and still think they're selling like hotcakes.  It will only get worse for them.  
     
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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/22 12:16:01 (permalink)
    If true, then they are struggling with wafer quality/yields.. too many 4080 and 4070ti rejects.   Also shouldn't the 4080ti (bins) be a high priority to bridge the gap between 4080 and 4090? 
     

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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/22 15:42:35 (permalink)
    The known issue is the pricing tiers.  How can nVidia release a 4080ti/4090ti with the gluttony of 3000 Series, 4080 series and below cards sitting on shelves.  A 4080ti at $1399 would affect 4080 & 4090, but more so with existing AIB tiered models.  nVidia created this mess and a pricing change is needed.  Also, if AMD can't be competitive, nVidia can continue to release crazy SKU's that butcher their existing models.
     
    I would like a 4060 relative increased performance model(vs 3060) at the same price point for a spare family computer.  Looks like I'm sticking with Intel 10th gen built-in graphics for awhile.

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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/23 10:17:21 (permalink)
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    The known issue is the pricing tiers.  How can nVidia release a 4080ti/4090ti with the gluttony of 3000 Series, 4080 series and below cards sitting on shelves.  A 4080ti at $1399 would affect 4080 & 4090, but more so with existing AIB tiered models.  nVidia created this mess and a pricing change is needed.  Also, if AMD can't be competitive, nVidia can continue to release crazy SKU's that butcher their existing models.
     
    I would like a 4060 relative increased performance model(vs 3060) at the same price point for a spare family computer.  Looks like I'm sticking with Intel 10th gen built-in graphics for awhile.


    That's part of the idea.  Prices could be realigned with a 4080ti in the mix. It would push 4080/4070ti's lower.  They just need to bin the chips and turn the cores on.  What am I missing here, unless there is some big disparity between 4080 and 4090 chip quality/yields.
     
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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/23 12:28:27 (permalink)
    I agree, but not optimistic it will occur anytime soon.  I gave up my idealistic views decades ago, but keep a glimmer of hope.  In recent generations after the 10 Series, everything has been inconsistent and nVidia has been seemingly very greedy.
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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/23 19:14:05 (permalink)
    This sort of warning is sure to cause a drought. But the source makes me think that this is not a conspiracy. So who knows.

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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/23 22:19:18 (permalink)
    This doesn't make sense to me because these people are not going to want to step down from a 4090. If you have the budget for the top of the line product you really don't want to go with a lesser product. It would be different if it was someone considering a 4080 going down to a 4070Ti since the consumer knew going in they didn't have the top of the line product.

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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/02/24 20:09:03 (permalink)
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    This doesn't make sense to me because these people are not going to want to step down from a 4090. If you have the budget for the top of the line product you really don't want to go with a lesser product. It would be different if it was someone considering a 4080 going down to a 4070Ti since the consumer knew going in they didn't have the top of the line product.


    exactly, they need to push product that ,, they can move , it's  sad now, got to move silicone , silicone don't want to move...Hard to move inventory when I gift it away...
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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/03/03 07:35:24 (permalink)
    If you are sitting on a 30 series GPU going up to the 40 is going to sting. Also honestly going with less than a 4090 on the current cards is going to sting, pay out a lot for those 4070/80s and think about that AMD pricing very competitive.
    At a 30 series there are not really any games now that force you to need an upgrade honestly.
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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/03/03 19:41:02 (permalink)
    LOOKING LIKE PURE BS now. lol, , or just lack of demand , more 4090s on shelves today than ever , so there is that .. I got a 3090Ti that I cant sell so, why not use it on the wife's PC....don't need no 40 
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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/03/05 02:31:33 (permalink)
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    LOOKING LIKE PURE BS now. lol, , or just lack of demand , more 4090s on shelves today than ever , so there is that .. I got a 3090Ti that I cant sell so, why not use it on the wife's PC....don't need no 40 
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    I think you mean more RTX 4080s on the shelves. RTX 4090 are nowhere to be found. 
     
    NVIDIA has made a bad decision not to crank up RTX 4090 GPU chip production. 

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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/03/05 10:53:52 (permalink)
    I think the people who wanted one have already got theirs and this is just demand falling off 
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    Re: 4090 drought may return for the rest of Q1 into Q2 to sell more 4080s 2023/03/05 11:10:56 (permalink)
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    I think the people who wanted one have already got theirs and this is just demand falling off 
    https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/rtx4090/
     


    agree, some stock has been available for several weeks now
     
    & when those 4090 Ti finally drop, used 4090 prices will tank on ebay

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