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2017/07/13 09:18:11 (permalink)
Hey guys,
 
I have exhausted my resources to find out about my specific "problem"  even Asus scratching their heads.
I know this might be in wrong section but anyone with higher level of knowledge ever came across similar situation can maybe confirm what I think might be the issue, although I might be way off
I have Asus x99 WS-E 10G board with 3x EVGA Titan Black and they are in slots 1, 3 and 5 all run at X16. Any benchmark or software application shows them all working as they should but.... going to BIOS only 2 of the GPU's slot 1,3 are detected and I have latterly did all I could e.g. downgrade BIOS, downgrade drivers, change PCIE GEN to 1,2 and 3, enabling 4G decoding, nothing changes.
 
Main GPU is  in slot 1 to ensure that slot  and GPU is working I plugged monitors DP to GPU #3 (PCIe #5) and loads screen no problem.
If anyone have any knowledge  beyond what I did, please share it.
 
My theory is that the BIOS itself might be at fault, Asus does not  emphasize enough on Workstations boards BIOS updates or I might be wrong and the M/B has issues
 
 

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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/13 09:52:58 (permalink)
    Awesome mobo!
     
    I found this Nvidia troubleshooting guide that could be useful:
    nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/782/~/sli-troubleshooting-tips
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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/13 10:05:26 (permalink)
    Thanks, but the troubleshooting is not related to the issue I'm having. The SLi is working. if I run any bench it utilizes all 3 cards 90-99% so no power distribution issue or GPU issues, all GPUs are showing in Device Manger.
    Eventually I want to get single slot cards and get 6-7 of them to work. There are few that managed to get 7 GPUs on very similar board x99 WS-E 3.1 USB for Octane rendering and they had small initial issue beyond 5 cards but not with 3 as far is showing in BIOS.
    I was trying to contact some of  the guys but so far no answer.
     
    This is driving me insane
     
    Thanks
     

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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/13 10:40:21 (permalink)
    Boot into Windows and check the Device Manager. If all three cards are shown then I would suspect a BIOs problem or a BIOs limitation.

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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/13 10:53:33 (permalink)
    Thanks. It shows 3 cards working fine  in Device Manager.
    Ive had Workstation boards before but it seems that Asus is slacking even more now this days. There is only 4 BIOS releases for my M/B while for the same non 10G  3.1 USB M/B there are like 11 or 12 releases so far 
    I figure that there might be BIOS issue
    post edited by AWK16 - 2017/07/13 10:55:40

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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/13 10:55:28 (permalink)
    AWK16 
    Main GPU is  in slot 1 to ensure that slot  and GPU is working I plugged monitors DP to GPU #3 (PCIe #5) and loads screen no problem.
    If anyone have any knowledge  beyond what I did, please share it.




    So the GPU that does NOT show in BIOS still displays an image?? That sounds like a cosmetic glitch in the BIOS, because the GPU would not display anything if it wasn't actually initialized by said BIOS. Have you benchmarked the system with two GPUs and compared it to benchmark data with all three GPUs installed? 


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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/13 10:59:57 (permalink)
    So the GPU that does NOT show in BIOS still displays an image?? That sounds like a cosmetic glitch in the BIOS, because the GPU would not display anything if it wasn't actually initialized by said BIOS. Have you benchmarked the system with two GPUs and compared it to benchmark data with all three GPUs installed?

     
    Thanks
     
    I actually didn't test it with 2 and 3 GPUs, but if there was an issue with the third card it would show how much power utilizes during tests and all cards run almost MAX speed.
     
    BIOS issue (limitation/cosmetic) came to my mind as well
     
    Forgot to mention. This board have SLI switch to help people to determine which slot to place GPUs (2 way and 3 way SLi) its off by default, if I switch to 2 way, switch is green if I switch to 3 way switch is orange, indication cards are in wrong slots but in fact they are in correct slots
    post edited by AWK16 - 2017/07/13 11:05:08

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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/13 11:04:39 (permalink)
    What happens if you only have 1 GPU loaded into the PCIe slot the would be "the third card - that does not show in BIOS" ?
     
    What shows during boot, with fast boot turned OFF ?
     
    If my Rig "Nibbler" was not busy folding right now (folds 24x7) I'd see if my EVGA X99 Classy can "see" all three GPUs in the BIOS
     
    I am curious why this is an issue for you as you mention that all 3 GPU work fine once Windows loads ?

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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/13 11:15:16 (permalink)
    Unfortunately I didn't test single GPU I would have to take everything apart I presume, but making that GPU primary by changing DP cable and assigning GEN 3 to that specific GPU loads it fine,its slightly slower on boot thou, but runs the same speed after all.
    Its not real issue, but I wont pretend that I'm an expert and know everything, yes I'm probably more knowledgeable than average user, but there is always room to learn more and this is one of the things I got stomped upon and before I determine that this is not a real issue I want to hear from you guys, guys with more brain of knowledge.
    You  pay $1100 for M/B you think they would provide better support
    Thanks
    post edited by AWK16 - 2017/07/13 11:19:35

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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/13 15:35:37 (permalink)
    Not a big deal imo as long you're not having any performance issues.


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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/13 15:37:31 (permalink)
    AWK16
    Unfortunately I didn't test single GPU I would have to take everything apart I presume, but making that GPU primary by changing DP cable and assigning GEN 3 to that specific GPU loads it fine,its slightly slower on boot thou, but runs the same speed after all.
    Its not real issue, but I wont pretend that I'm an expert and know everything, yes I'm probably more knowledgeable than average user, but there is always room to learn more and this is one of the things I got stomped upon and before I determine that this is not a real issue I want to hear from you guys, guys with more brain of knowledge.
    You  pay $1100 for M/B you think they would provide better support
    Thanks


    It's ASUS
    Can you not disable the PCIe Slots to test with?

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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/13 17:53:52 (permalink)
    It's ASUS
    Can you not disable the PCIe Slots to test with?

     
    Unfortunately no, this board doesn't have that option, oppose to my previous Rampage 4 Black I had switch to enable/disable GPUs.
    But as I mentioned all GPUs are been utilized during any benchmark or test and they all showing in Device Manager  and all 3 run X16 @3.0.
     
    I don't know if I have mentioned I also have wireless card in PCIe #7, its not showing in BIOS either, but it works perfect so I think this is premature BIOS
     
    When I switched DP cable to the cad that is not showing in BIOS it boots and displays fine, so I presume PCIe and GPU are fine.
     
    I emailed a guy who has exact mobo, CPU and GPUs, hopefully he can respond some times. Funny thing is I had this setup running for over 2 months and never really looked in BIOS for that reason until now, so if I have left it alone I would never know this.
     
    Thanks guys for your input so far
    post edited by AWK16 - 2017/07/13 17:58:18

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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/13 17:59:57 (permalink)
    Not a big deal imo as long you're not having any performance issues.

     
    I now, but that's my weakness I am so darn anal,  sometimes helps sometimes handicaps me

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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/15 14:20:09 (permalink)
    Update:
    Got a word from a person with the same M/B and CPU and Triple ProDuo cards and he said he didn't even look in BIOS until Ive mentioned. Beyond 3rd PCIe nothing else is showing but its working as it should in windows, its purely BIOS limitation.
    Knowing Asus, they wont even bother fixing it
     

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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/16 07:35:49 (permalink)
    Got another response from person with exact setup. He said he can't even get into BIOS, it goes into constant loop, he sees everything in Windows but that's all....Wow, so I'm actually lucky.
     
     

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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/16 09:34:47 (permalink)
    AWK16
    Got another response from person with exact setup. He said he can't even get into BIOS, it goes into constant loop, he sees everything in Windows but that's all....Wow, so I'm actually lucky.

     
    Gross... at least it works for you, though that'd still bug me. ASUS hasn't updated BIOS's for its Z97 boards in over two years, so yeah I wouldn't count on the X99's getting anything anymore. 


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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/16 10:34:08 (permalink)
    I have 1 in use and 1 still brand new Rampage 4 Black that I will probably just keep in my cabinet for decoration but it was the same issue then ..... BIOS was darn old and they never bother updating and there were few unresolved issues.
    I don't know whats up with Asus, they make such a nice and reliable products, but their support is just beyond unacceptable, at least it has been for the past 2-3 years.
     
    When I got this WS 10G board I did a lot of research and because not many have this board I was doing my purchase based on the same WS but 3.1 version and review, there was no indication of any big issues except the USB problems that Asus ultimately  fixed it  with BIOS update.
     
    I don't have major problems with my board but the fact that Asus have such a poor support, despite their nice product I'm going to consider different brand next time I'm looking for M/B, it boils down to customer support and support for the product itself and that refers to anything on our market today, not only computing.
     
     

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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/18 12:37:37 (permalink)
    Maybe go with a gigabyte board next time. I had a problem that was related to the bios on my gigabyte board. Gigabyte sent me a tweaked bios within a few days after describing my problem to them. Problem solved. 


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    Re: 3x Titan Black 2017/07/19 00:24:02 (permalink)
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    Maybe go with a gigabyte board next time. I had a problem that was related to the bios on my gigabyte board. Gigabyte sent me a tweaked bios within a few days after describing my problem to them. Problem solved. 




    I will keep that in mind.
     
    I used to favor GB boards, but I didn't like how they handled the X58 second gen boards with the very buggy Renesas USB 3 chips. Also had that same board develop some kind of dualBIOS conflict issue, didn't figure that one out until I flashed both the second BIOS and the broken main BIOS with the latest version. Came to find out the board had been booting from the backup BIOS (which was a very buggy launch day version that had some non-working features) and there was no indication it was doing so. Ironically it wasn't much later that I began noticing the major BIOS steppings begin automatically flashing both BIOS's.


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