meliewx
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Hey there. So I’m now on my third 1080 FTW (first one I RMA for the thermal pads as I was scared to do it myself) and I believe I’ve been having problems with the two replacements I’ve received. The second card, immediately upon launching a game (any game) would jump from idle temps of around 30c to 75-80c and the fans would jump to 2000rpm and up. I didn’t even get chance to actually play any games, this was simply on the menu screens of multiple games. My previous RX480 Nitro+ had no issues so I believed this to be a fault or badly designed card. I tested the card in my boyfriend’s system (as instructed) in case my airflow could be ‘off’ or a faulty motherboard or PSU. The exact same thing happened in his NZXT H440 vs my S340 Elite. My Elite has two intake fans, and a rear and top exhaust. With my previous card, playing games for a few hours, I never saw temperatures of my card hit 70c which is why I was so alarmed that menu screens caused this on the 1080. After researching it seems multiple people have issues and the card simply seems to run warm and very loud as a result. I’m really not happy sat next to my system with it sounding like a small jet. I don’t game with headphones on as I like to keep an eye on my puppy and my boyfriend and I talk to one another during. EVGA America took over my RMA and agreed to send me out a NEW 1080FTW due to my issues and some problems with how EU support spoke to me previously. I’m actually in the UK. My new card arrived and was installed yesterday. Idle temps were great, under 30c. I launched rocket league and it jumped again to just shy of 80c on the menu screen and the fans were beyond ridiculously loud again. I set some custom curves in Precision XOC and also used the ‘aggressive’ and ‘quiet’ settings. I can’t say these made any improvement. The fans are still spinning at a very fast speed and temperatures are what I deemed high for a card that isn’t being pushed massively in a graphical sense. I had Rocket League open and then the Amazing Eternals and Black Squad. All were the same. If I then played for an amount of time temperatures would push over 80 and the fans get even louder. The card was the same in my partner’s system again and was audible in his somewhat sound dampened H440 over his case fans whilst being on the floor under our desks. It looks as though I should have done more research and avoided EVGA but honestly I thought as is often the case, more people complain than those who are happy, so I was possibly foolish in thinking I wouldn’t have any issues. Am I incorrect in thinking this behaviour is wrong for the card? My partner’s 980ti is never heard in his system and his temperatures only hit 70c whilst gaming for hours and he’s playing more intensive games than I am. We both play at 1440p. I know I may receive a lot of ‘use headphones’ but as I said, it’s not possible in my setup and the noise from the card is extremely loud. It is by far the most audible component in my PC. I never once heard my Sapphire Nitro+ RX480 and at this point I’m wishing I could get my money back. I’m just wondering if anybody else has had similar issues? What fixes did you find if any? I’m also still waiting for my prepaid label to return the second card that I was promised but that's a side note. I have also clean installed the drivers and used DDU each time with each replacement card. Thanks in advance
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/23 09:13:20
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Welcome to the Forum meliewx Along with DDU did you use ATI's/AMD's Tool to remove all of the AMD Drivers and Software Before you removed the AMD GPU. Did you update your MB Bios and reset the Default or Optimized Settings After you installed your New Card(s)? 80c is an OK Temp for your card while gaming, what are your Room Temperatures? What is the Make and Model of your computer? Motherboard? CPU? Memory? Power Supply and Age? With having an "RX480 Nitro+ With No Issues" I assume your Motherboard is AMD Based.
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/23 10:27:30
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No, Intel CPU, i5-6500 and an Asus Strix b250f board.
Yes DDU was used for all of that but I’ve actually clean installed Windows so it’s definitely not an issue there.
PSU is a brand new EVGA G3 750w.
Room temperatures I’ve no idea, it’s cold here in the UK they’re definitely not affecting it I don’t think haha.
Motherboard BIOS is up to date and default settings yes.
80-90 in game menus strikes me as odd though but am I wrong? The coil whine is also terrible and it’s how immediate the jump is but again, it could be normal I just don’t know at this point.
Every single component in my system is under 6 months old with my PSU being a week old
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/23 11:41:30
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Multi-GPU Support Supports AMD 2-Way CrossFireX Technology (No SLI Support) so not really a MB meant for a NVIDIA Graphics Card. I am Not saying you cannot use one. Is it in the x16 Slot next to the CPU Socket? You have added 80-90 & coil whine now that may be running a little Hot but are your games running or crashing? https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2507623 83C not an issue posted by EVGATech_MDecker
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/23 11:51:34
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Coil whine has always been present. If I use the card for a prolonged period of time temperatures go above those that it initially seems to spike to in menu screens and such. That's when it pushes a little higher. I just have no idea if it's normal for this model of card and such just because it is so loud to my ears which it will be with the fans having to spin due to the temps but it's the instant jump and on games I didn't know could be supposedly so taxing if that makes any sense? Sorry the motherboard comment threw me as I'm still new to everything so I apologise. My card is in the first slot directly under the CPU yes. Thanks for your help and input
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/23 11:53:03
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No apology needed, we learn all the time and we never stop learning. How are your Temps with the side cover removed? What are your idle Temperatures? (With Cover On and Cover Off) Are you using PXOC to set a Fan Curve? Looking at the Case with the Side Cover on the Hot Air has no place to go but back inside the case. Having editing issues in the Forum ATM sorry for the changes in the posts.
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/23 12:04:47
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PXOC was used to implement a curve yeah. I used their preset aggressive and quiet ones rather than just leaving it to auto. Temps were the same, I just think the initial fan speed jump wasn’t as high (as it was already running)
Idle temperatures are great (or so I think) initially upon boot they’re around 27-30 I believe. They’re higher after I’ve launched a game for any amount of time of course and it never really settles back to those temps, it’ll then sit around 40c.
I’ll take my side panel off tomorrow and have a look and let you know (late in the UK and I’m going to watch some Netflix haha) but I’ll report back tomorrow.
Thank you for the help so far
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/23 12:09:05
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OK Have a Good Night and Sleep Well. What are you using for a CPU Cooler?
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/23 13:56:13
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I believe your case may be the culprit, once you try remove side panel as bcav suggested you'll know. My son had the same case with EVGA 970 acx 2.0 that would hit 80c pretty quickly and climb up from that and pulling side cover off dropped it 10c. We have since moved all same components over to a Corsair 760t and w/ an aggressive fan profile card runs max 70c.
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/23 13:57:58
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It’s a shame as it’s a lovely case. Shall check tomorrow and take it from there and report back. Thanks for the info with regards to the case!
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/23 18:56:24
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I have the nzxt 440 case and a 1080 ftw2 ,temps never been above 65,average is around 55 and I’m in the uk,so ambient temps are about the same. I would just rma it,it’s not as it should be.
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/23 20:25:12
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bigboy1 I have the nzxt 440 case and a 1080 ftw2 ,temps never been above 65,average is around 55 and I’m in the uk,so ambient temps are about the same. I would just rma it,it’s not as it should be.
Your Case is also larger than the OP's Case. His case provides little space above the FTW Size Cards.
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/23 21:54:30
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I ran a 1080FTW, 1080 Gaming X and a 1080Ti Hybrid in a modified Fractal Define XL (first gen!), with the 1080 FTW as the bottom card, and it never got above 62C, so yes airflow is probably the culprit here. I also have 4 intake fans to my 2 exhaust which really forced the air in :) Small cases are really great for people who want to save space, but for these thrower cards, they really, totally suck. As Bcav has suggested remove the sidepanel and your temps should drop. I also never heard the cards because of the sound deadening in the case. So if anything I would recommend a Fractal Designs Define series if you want a silent case. I'd recommend an R5 or an R4, as not many people are as hardcore as me and need the Define XL.
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/24 00:20:18
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Her case :P
I have run the card in my partner’s H440 though and it exhibited the same immediate jump behaviour if you will with temperatures. I’m going to try it again though as I believe that was with the second card and not this third one.
It’s difficult as silence is very important to me (hence why I can’t stand how loud the card’s fans are running) but I also want an aesthetically pleasing build. I know these don’t always go hand in hand.
I’ll check how it seems today with panels removed and such but it’s still the immediate spikes that seem odd. I’m inexperienced here overall though so I appreciate all the help so far
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/24 00:23:16
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I’ll happily switch case if it’s the culprit also so if anybody has recommendations of a smaller mid tower but with better airflow and such (side window, glass maybe?) then I’ll switch if needs must. I’ll research this on the side also
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/24 01:09:04
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Maybe the issue is due to the thermal paste or thermal pad placement on the cards.
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/24 07:50:43
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Ya not normal at all. mine sits idle around 26 and under full load never seen it higher than 62, I did the thermal mod myself and my GPU temps dropped 5 degrees as well, but i used Arctic silver 5 for my paste when i re-assembled it. im thinking it is your case as well. This is my case and love it. http://www.corsair.com/en...-airflow-atx-cube-case
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/24 08:59:23
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MSim Maybe the issue is due to the thermal paste or thermal pad placement on the cards.
My thoughts too due to how quickly the temp spikes. Reapplying paste is a lot cheaper than a new case.
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/24 11:12:22
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i'm following this, Did you test on a clean Windows? Maby something was left behind duo the program or regersty files..
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/24 13:58:06
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Actually is a clean windows install, well was from my RX480 to the card prior to this second 1080, meaning the first 1080 had a clean windows install for it. DDU used as well in between the two 1080s
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/25 17:24:28
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Perhaps the vast differences seen in this thread reported temps are due to FPS caps/V-sync? mieliewx have you tried turning on V-sync or capping your FPS to the monitor refresh rate? Running unconstrained will push temps up as the GPU works harder rending more frames. What FPS are you getting in the Rocket League menu? As a comparison, my 980ti will hit 80-83 C when running 144+ FPS in a basically open air chassis, but be closer to your BF's reported 70 C if I limit the FPS lower.
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/25 19:09:44
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Airflow, just more airflow is required for a 1080. If the airflow is managed good enough, then the sensor is dead I guess.
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/25 20:08:03
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I hate my components running higher than 60C. I have 10 additional fans besides the one on the 360mm cpu cooler and 1080ti hybrid 120mm cooler. 6 on top, 5 in front and 1 on the back. Max temps for both cards are between 53-54C. 63C for the CPU. I also removed the front drive cages and top optical drive cage to provide more space for cooling.
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/25 20:57:43
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DeathAngel74 I hate my components running higher than 60C. I have 10 additional fans besides the one on the 360mm cpu cooler and 1080ti hybrid 120mm cooler.
6 on top, 5 in front and 1 on the back. Max temps for both cards are between 53-54C. 63C for the CPU. I also removed the front drive cages and top optical drive cage to provide more space for cooling.
just wondering what games now a days benefit from a 1070 doing phyx that is still worthwhile to have a separate phys x card? haven't really seen many builds run a dedicated phys x card anymore so i am curious
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
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I saw a noticeable difference with AC:Syndicate, Batman AK, SWBF and TW3.
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/26 01:57:41
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somethingc00l Perhaps the vast differences seen in this thread reported temps are due to FPS caps/V-sync? mieliewx have you tried turning on V-sync or capping your FPS to the monitor refresh rate? Running unconstrained will push temps up as the GPU works harder rending more frames. What FPS are you getting in the Rocket League menu? As a comparison, my 980ti will hit 80-83 C when running 144+ FPS in a basically open air chassis, but be closer to your BF's reported 70 C if I limit the FPS lower.
Haven't tested but I shall today thank you. A lot of things are still new to me. I've noticed there's settings in games for this, settings in Nvidia control panel and in Precision XOC you can select framerate limit. If I use XOC's, do I have to apply this in game, and in Nvidia control panel as well do you know or does one apply to all if that makes sense?!
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/26 01:58:50
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DeathAngel74 I hate my components running higher than 60C. I have 10 additional fans besides the one on the 360mm cpu cooler and 1080ti hybrid 120mm cooler.
6 on top, 5 in front and 1 on the back. Max temps for both cards are between 53-54C. 63C for the CPU. I also removed the front drive cages and top optical drive cage to provide more space for cooling.
That's a lot of fans!! I know what you mean about the temperatures though, they've been worrying me. I don't think I could cope with the noise those 10 must emit though :P
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Re: 3rd 1080FTW - is this behaviour normal for this card?
2017/09/26 02:17:02
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As a FYI to people following the thread, EVGA stated the temperatures, spikes and behaviour is normal for their high end card. The coil whine is infuriating so I'll be hopefully speaking to them today with regards to a possible RMA
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