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2020/09/30 22:29:20 (permalink)


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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/09/30 23:14:58 (permalink)
    Wow, if only every game had Strange Brigade scaling. 98% scaling is DAMN GOOD.
     
    4K360FPS average @ Ultra Settings?
     
    Sheet. Probably capable of 8K144.

     
     
     

     


     

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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/01 04:38:11 (permalink)
    The PSU requirements alone make it a non starter for me.  I would need something like an EVGA 1600w unit which would require the circuit in my office to be upgrade to 20A.  Being that it's on the second floor, I would have to rip out the existing wiring and redo the walls.  Not sure $3k+ is worth SLI in Strange Brigade :)


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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/01 06:11:32 (permalink)
    I am planning to upgrade to EVGA G2 1300W within the next 12 months to do SLI. For now I can only afford one 3090 :D
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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/01 06:39:39 (permalink)
    I have an EVGA platinum 1200 watt and i wont even consider sli with this psu. 
    The way i overclock my stuff? nah. maybe if it was stock
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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/01 07:13:30 (permalink)
    Well, the good news is that RDR2 has Vulkan MGPU so that should work well. What surprised me in that video is that he (I guess Nvidia) says that BF1 also works with DX12 MGPU? Why on earth would they not implement it in BFV then?
     
    Anyway, definitely going 3090 SLI - if I can find them in stock that is.
     
    Here's Strange Brigade with Titan RTX SLI @ 4K maxed (~ 225fps): 
     
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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/01 07:28:17 (permalink)
    Wow that’s pretty incredible with the dx12/ Vulcan apis 

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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/01 07:48:04 (permalink)
    If a game played used it and could bench with sli.. yeah thet would be enough for me to justify it.

    Sell the other off when I'm not using sli anymore though.

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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/01 09:04:01 (permalink)
    Given that Steve said Nvidia will no longer support SLI and will leave it to game devs to support it, I see little reason to consider SLI for gaming. If it's supported at all, that's a guarantee that updated will be slow, inconsistent between games, possibly non-existent since the huge majority of a game's player base will NOT have multiple 3090's.
     
    Now, I can see CAD professionals multi-card setups, but that's about it and CAD does not use SLI. 
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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/01 09:28:47 (permalink)
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    The PSU requirements alone make it a non starter for me.  I would need something like an EVGA 1600w unit which would require the circuit in my office to be upgrade to 20A.  Being that it's on the second floor, I would have to rip out the existing wiring and redo the walls.  Not sure $3k+ is worth SLI in Strange Brigade :)


    It sounds like a better option in your case would be to use dual power supplies and put them on different branch circuits (i.e. breakers) in your office.
     
    Also, sometimes the wiring itself is rated for higher current than either/or the outlet or breaker. Meaning that possibly an electrician could replace the receptacle and/or the breaker to the 20 amp version(s) and you'd be set. It'd be MUCH cheaper than needing to pull new wire which will likely mean opening up the walls.

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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/01 10:06:44 (permalink)
    gimeno
    Given that Steve said Nvidia will no longer support SLI and will leave it to game devs to support it, I see little reason to consider SLI for gaming. If it's supported at all, that's a guarantee that updated will be slow, inconsistent between games, possibly non-existent since the huge majority of a game's player base will NOT have multiple 3090's.
     
    Now, I can see CAD professionals multi-card setups, but that's about it and CAD does not use SLI. 


    I feel like what nvidia did is a revival to SLI. Multi GPU on DirectX12 and Vulkan is much better than the SLI we got to know over the past few years.

    Multi GPUs in DX12/Vulkan supports a mix of GPU. You no longer have to have to same model. You no longer need to buy a bridge. You don’t even have to get the same brand! You can use a mix of AMD with Nvidia!

    Since it’s a feature baked into DX12/Vulkan and supports both nvidia and AMD out of the box, I actually expect more developers to start implementing it.
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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/01 13:34:59 (permalink)
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    Since it’s a feature baked into DX12/Vulkan and supports both nvidia and AMD out of the box, I actually expect more developers to start implementing it.

    Wishful thinking. Plenty of dx12 games that don’t support mgpu. Developers are lazy.
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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/01 13:41:06 (permalink)
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    Since it’s a feature baked into DX12/Vulkan and supports both nvidia and AMD out of the box, I actually expect more developers to start implementing it.

    Wishful thinking. Plenty of dx12 games that don’t support mgpu. Developers are lazy.


    They always were, even when SLI got first introduced. At least it might motivate them a little now that people can just mix and match any GPU.

    I for one not going to sell my 2080 Super now. I am planning to use it as a Plex encoder as soon as I upgrade my PSU to handle the 3090 and the 2080 Super.

    I expect a not so bad multi GPU performance in games that support it!
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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/01 23:20:48 (permalink)
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    Since it’s a feature baked into DX12/Vulkan and supports both nvidia and AMD out of the box, I actually expect more developers to start implementing it.

    Wishful thinking. Plenty of dx12 games that don’t support mgpu. Developers are lazy.


    They always were, even when SLI got first introduced. At least it might motivate them a little now that people can just mix and match any GPU.

    I for one not going to sell my 2080 Super now. I am planning to use it as a Plex encoder as soon as I upgrade my PSU to handle the 3090 and the 2080 Super.

    I expect a not so bad multi GPU performance in games that support it!



    SLI was a big thing back in the day when Voodoo cards came out because there was a substantial improvement in running two (or more) and jumping from 20 fps to 40+ fps, but there's little reason to run multiple GPUs nowadays. A single graphics card is often more than sufficient to run games over 100fps with enough eye-candy to keep the majority of gamers happy.
     
    Also, DX12 has been out a while and multi-GPU support would have already made a difference if it was going to. So, despite how cool it sounded in theory, the reality is that most gamers have been perfectly happy with a single GPU and I don't see that suddenly changing now, especially given that graphics cards will be super competitive by the end of the year and consumers will have a lot of choices, all of which run 4k perfectly fine. Also, given that both AMD and Nvidia are trying to reduce draw latency, multi-GPU support in DX12 probably hinders that goal more than it improves framerates. 
     
    Plus, I think there are a fair number of consumers who are fed up with SLI and would prefer a single high-end card over multiple low/mid-range cards. Personally, I'm more concerned with my overall experience than with price, so a single 3090 that works in all games is a better deal than multiple cheap cards that exceed it in theory but don't work in most games. 
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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/02 20:18:11 (permalink)
    The fact the sli pins not lining up well between cards is so ridiculous. I would think NVIDIA would force aibs to follow their placement. I guess they don't care since they are letting it die.
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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/02 20:49:09 (permalink)
    SLI is dead. You notice it was dropped completely on the 2XXX series?
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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/02 23:30:14 (permalink)

     
    https://www.techpowerup.c...s/geforce-gtx-690.c361
     
    It used to be that the 90 cards like the 690 that was dual GPU on 1 PCB. But given the ridiculous power requirements on the 3090... what if instead of having 2 separate GPU dies you just have one big one. It's like putting the two chips in 1. So I think in that sense the 3090 fits the name of a 90 series card. The power Requirement is almost double that of other cards in the past.
     
    So the 3090 in a way is NVidia's nod that yeah SLI is kinda dead at this point. It's a relief because on Desktop Z490 you were limited to 16 PCIE Slots anyway so if you wanted Dual GPU you would be 8X and 8X and done.
     
    Now those same users can run 8X on 1 slot and something else on the other slot. So it gives you better options.
     
    As for the AMD users, Intel I would expect to release Icelake or Cooperlake in 2021 and that will be PCIE 4.0 Support. There's also rumors that Intel might go PCIE 5.0 and skip 4.0 with support for DDR5.
     
    So I don't think Intel is dead yet but they will be behind for a long time.
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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/03 15:21:12 (permalink)
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    SLI is dead. You notice it was dropped completely on the 2XXX series?


    Yea no argument here. In the slightest. Putting the burden on game makers to support an extreamly small portion of there audience means it is gone.
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    Re: 3090 in SLI GN steve 2020/10/03 18:26:52 (permalink)
    Come on fellow enthusiasts! Cut all this negativity! Yeah we are facing difficult times, it is not an out of box experience as it used to be. But everything is still in our hands, don't let haters and just ignorant people ruin the fun. Many of us are doing certain things just for heck of it. SLI setups are one of the most enthusiast things in this hobby and true enthusiast should be able to figure how to use NVinspector, I had good luck making it work even with dx12 thanks to relatively new CFR. Some may say "blah blah dropping twice as much money on SLI setup for 30-70% boost is crazy" I think it is not as crazy as paying more than double the price of 3080 for 10-15%. Who knows, maybe one day we will be able to come up with software based solution which can efficiently virtualize 2 gpu's into one!

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