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2020/09/25 08:43:32 (permalink)
So I'm reading a few new things regarding the strix card. 
1) 479.7 watt TDP
2)  it appears EVGA went with 6 POSCAPs on their FTW3 series (at least from 3080s I've seen). Meanwhile, ASUS TUF and Strix on both models are using pure MLCC.
 
In addition to this it seems like a better buy because:
1) More hdmi 2.1 ports
2) Will actually have 3rd party waterblocks available for it in October
 
I dont even have the card yet but already getting buyers remorse :(
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 08:46:44 (permalink)
    Need to get the ftw3 in the hands of someone...anyone. Need to see a review
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 09:09:46 (permalink)
    Lets get Gamers Nexus Steve on the case
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 09:39:39 (permalink)
    Sorry, my 2 day shipping (there was no option for overnight) that shipped yesterday won't be here until Monday. 887 miles with only 1 state in between and it takes 3 shipping days to get here.
     
    So, I won't be able to help this weekend with finding out what the 3090 FTW3 Ultra can do.
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 09:49:35 (permalink)

     
    3090 lookin good. Has 2x MLCC in the middle which is key. Had to go to some foreign website to get this pic since apparently evga doesnt want to send any sample out for review               
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 10:07:45 (permalink)
    Ill have mine in a few hours.
     
    I can take a picture of the back if thats what you are looking for?
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 10:09:54 (permalink)
    Isn't dp 1.4 better than hdmi 2.1?
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 10:14:45 (permalink)
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    Isn't dp 1.4 better than hdmi 2.1?



    DP 1.4 is 32.4Gbps compared to 48Gbps for HDMI 2.1
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 10:16:45 (permalink)
    I was wondering the same thing as well
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 10:18:11 (permalink)
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    Isn't dp 1.4 better than hdmi 2.1?

    Also HDMI 2.1 supports Variable Refresh Rate, which the whole point was to stop the huge pricing of the G-Sync panels that needs the chip which can increase cost by a lot. No real idea how things are but that's still a good step. Plus, NVIDIA made G-Sync compatible with many FreeSync Panels now, so... Not an issue anymore but might have been or might still be in some cases. 
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 10:23:56 (permalink)
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    Isn't dp 1.4 better than hdmi 2.1?

    Also HDMI 2.1 supports Variable Refresh Rate, which the whole point was to stop the huge pricing of the G-Sync panels that needs the chip which can increase cost by a lot. No real idea how things are but that's still a good step. Plus, NVIDIA made G-Sync compatible with many FreeSync Panels now, so... Not an issue anymore but might have been or might still be in some cases. 


    What the Heck is G-Sync ultimate then if they no longer need a g-sync chip in the panels?
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 10:25:13 (permalink)
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    Isn't dp 1.4 better than hdmi 2.1?



    DP 1.4 is 32.4Gbps compared to 48Gbps for HDMI 2.1


    Plus HDMI doen't have hotplug detect as part of the spec like DP. Also it's an extra port compared to EVGA. ASUS has 2x HDMI 2.1 and 3x DP 1.4. EVGA cards only have a single HDMI. Extra ports are always good. Can be used for an extra HDMI monitor or TV or a VR headset.

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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 10:27:15 (permalink)
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    Isn't dp 1.4 better than hdmi 2.1?

    Also HDMI 2.1 supports Variable Refresh Rate, which the whole point was to stop the huge pricing of the G-Sync panels that needs the chip which can increase cost by a lot. No real idea how things are but that's still a good step. Plus, NVIDIA made G-Sync compatible with many FreeSync Panels now, so... Not an issue anymore but might have been or might still be in some cases. 


    What the Heck is G-Sync ultimate then if they no longer need a g-sync chip in the panels?


    Usually Gsync compatible range is from 40 to the refresh rate of the TV/monitor (e.g. 40-120). Gsync and Gsync ultimate are from 1 to the refresh rate of the TV/monitor (e.g. 1-120).
     
    Gsync and Gsync ultimate are definitely better than Gsync compatible. I assume (possibly incorrectly) that VRR falls in line with Gsync compatible TVs/monitors.
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 10:27:22 (permalink)
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    Isn't dp 1.4 better than hdmi 2.1?

    Also HDMI 2.1 supports Variable Refresh Rate, which the whole point was to stop the huge pricing of the G-Sync panels that needs the chip which can increase cost by a lot. No real idea how things are but that's still a good step. Plus, NVIDIA made G-Sync compatible with many FreeSync Panels now, so... Not an issue anymore but might have been or might still be in some cases. 


    What the Heck is G-Sync ultimate then if they no longer need a g-sync chip in the panels?


    I believe G Sync ultimate requires the display to have the chip and 1000 nits peak brightness for HDR.

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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/25 10:38:38 (permalink)
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    Isn't dp 1.4 better than hdmi 2.1?

    Also HDMI 2.1 supports Variable Refresh Rate, which the whole point was to stop the huge pricing of the G-Sync panels that needs the chip which can increase cost by a lot. No real idea how things are but that's still a good step. Plus, NVIDIA made G-Sync compatible with many FreeSync Panels now, so... Not an issue anymore but might have been or might still be in some cases. 


    What the Heck is G-Sync ultimate then if they no longer need a g-sync chip in the panels?


    Usually Gsync compatible range is from 40 to the refresh rate of the TV/monitor (e.g. 40-120). Gsync and Gsync ultimate are from 1 to the refresh rate of the TV/monitor (e.g. 1-120).
     
    Gsync and Gsync ultimate are definitely better than Gsync compatible. I assume (possibly incorrectly) that VRR falls in line with Gsync compatible TVs/monitors.


    I don't know about VRR to GSync compatible. That would make sense though. As for how experience go, that would depend totally on the panel. Some screen really make an effort to offert a G-Sync alike experience where you would barely notice the difference, others are less good at offering that said experience. But when I bought my screen, there was a 200€ gap between a non G-Sync and a G-Sync panel, with all the other features being the same. 400€ vs 600€ at that time. I ended up going for the 600€ ONLY because G-Sync and I play in High refresh rate. But that's.... not cheap. I'd rather look at reviews of panels and get a cheaper one even if it offers a slightly worse experience (like I said, on some good compatibles panels you barely notice it) than burning 200€ for the " NVIDIA G-Sync Tax ". That's 200€ I could have put in other components or just plain and simply spare.
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 09:10:12 (permalink)
    No way to know at the moment, but its very likely, strix is gonna be a monster
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 18:36:22 (permalink)
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    No way to know at the moment, but its very likely, strix is gonna be a monster


    All of the reviews seem to indicate this is the case.
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 18:37:48 (permalink)
    Is the strix 3080 even out?
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 18:57:28 (permalink)
    After Evga since 2004 seriously considering the Strix this time around......I used to be a hard core Evga Mobo fan boy but switched over to Rampage and Extreme (vs Classified / Dark) a number of years ago......
     
    Really am reluctant to switch to Asus GPU though.......although EK already has WB available for pre-order for Strix ;)

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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 19:09:18 (permalink)
    Well if you're going to game in a large space with an LN2 pump, yeah all MLCC might be the way to go.
     
    Anything less, you're going to find the card reaches power or heat limits before you get a high enough frequency to need all of those.
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 19:17:24 (permalink)
    strix 30xx are not out yet, but even if its just 5% more fps, i dont like asus' customer service

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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 19:32:14 (permalink)
    The fact it has 2x HDMI 2.1 is making me want to consider it. I game on a 48 inch OLED and a samsung 4k TV. I like my big screens at 4k with 100% DPI with 0 scaling to enjoy the actual resolution for desktop use when I am working. I currently use a DP to HDMI adapter to get my Samsung to work and that was the exact question I asked Jacob during a stream before the launch. He seemed to have stated that they have no plans on increasing the number of HDMI ports on their cards as it wasn't necessary. He legitimately seemed somewhat confused by my questions as if there was no need for multiple HDMI ports. Personally, I think 2 X HDMI and 2 X Display port would have been the perfect balance. Not sure why they went with 3 X  DP and 1 X HDMI.
     
    Their Forums, Customer service and 24/7 tech support are very hard to pass on though :P.

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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 19:41:01 (permalink)
    well I have a pny 3090 on order will it also have the problem that some of these custom variants are facing once it hits 2ghz or higher clocks because without overclocking the 3080 variant is reaching about 1905 from one reviewer. I ordered since it was in stock and I should have it soon I was unsuccessful in ordering a 3090 FTW3 ultra
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 19:49:42 (permalink)
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    The fact it has 2x HDMI 2.1 is making me want to consider it. I game on a 48 inch OLED and a samsung 4k TV. I like my big screens at 4k with 100% DPI with 0 scaling to enjoy the actual resolution for desktop use when I am working. I currently use a DP to HDMI adapter to get my Samsung to work and that was the exact question I asked Jacob during a stream before the launch. He seemed to have stated that they have no plans on increasing the number of HDMI ports on their cards as it wasn't necessary. He legitimately seemed somewhat confused by my questions as if there was no need for multiple HDMI ports. Personally, I think 2 X HDMI and 2 X Display port would have been the perfect balance. Not sure why they went with 3 X  DP and 1 X HDMI.
     
    Their Forums, Customer service and 24/7 tech support are very hard to pass on though :P.




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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 20:15:35 (permalink)
    Honestly, I wouldnt even think it.

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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 20:45:01 (permalink)
    ^^^^ Entertaining it as the EK Block is already available Pre Order......never been a fan of Evga Hydro's..(temps are always fantastic with EK Blcoks and easier re-sale re-installing Stock Air Cooler, although I end up with a bunch of Blocks....think I still have my 680's and 780Ti's ;)   ...although I know EK will come up with something for FTW U....just a matter of when......been trying to find out from them but only "crickets" so far..
     
    AHowe....looks like were running similar Systems.....although Im still runing my old 1080Ti's !

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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 20:54:30 (permalink)
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    ^^^^ Entertaining it as the EK Block is already available Pre Order......never been a fan of Evga Hydro's..(temps are always fantastic with EK Blcoks and easier re-sale re-installing Stock Air Cooler, although I end up with a bunch of Blocks....think I still have my 680's and 780Ti's ;)   ...although I know EK will come up with something for FTW U....just a matter of when......been trying to find out from them but only "crickets" so far..
     
    AHowe....looks like were running similar Systems.....although Im still runing my old 1080Ti's !


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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 20:59:36 (permalink)
    No, it's supposed to release the week of the 28th.
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/26 23:48:28 (permalink)
    Support is why I always went with EVGA up until the 2000 series because I couldn't get my hands on one of their cards fast enough. And when I needed support from that company, hot damn was it BAD. I won't say its name, but it's one most of us are probably familiar with.
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    Re: 3090 asus STRIX to OUTPERFORM evga FTW3 ?????? 2020/09/27 07:48:54 (permalink)
    the FTW3 Ultra 3090 looks way better than the Strix IMO. However, I don't think I've seen a SINGLE Strix 3090 out in the wild (in anyone's hands really). Any reviews/videos of it yet?

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