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Re: 3090 XC3 Ultra underperforming in timespy? 2020/10/21 18:21:08 (permalink)
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My 3090 FTW3 Ultra at stock (power slider maxed) only gets about 1100 points more for the GPU score, so I don't think you're that far off considering that the 30 series is totally power draw limited - 


I have the same card and I can't even break 19k stock...what score are you getting with power slider stock, not maxed(100%)? I'm thinking I got a really low performing card or something.

19K combined score, or GPU score? Try Port Royal as an apples to apples comparison - it doesn't care what your CPU is, or if it's overclocked.
 
Here's a stock run of Port Royal without touching the power sliders (older drivers now): https://www.3dmark.com/pr/351577

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Re: 3090 XC3 Ultra underperforming in timespy? 2020/10/21 19:04:39 (permalink)
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My 3090 FTW3 Ultra at stock (power slider maxed) only gets about 1100 points more for the GPU score, so I don't think you're that far off considering that the 30 series is totally power draw limited - 


I have the same card and I can't even break 19k stock...what score are you getting with power slider stock, not maxed(100%)? I'm thinking I got a really low performing card or something.

19K combined score, or GPU score? Try Port Royal as an apples to apples comparison - it doesn't care what your CPU is, or if it's overclocked.
 
Here's a stock run of Port Royal without touching the power sliders (older drivers now): 


I'm away from PC till the weekend, but I have the time spy results from a previous run. Notice that my graphics score is what is holding me back. It's odd too, because I've seen so many scores in the 20000's, with lower clock speeds than me, so idk how to figure out whats going on, or if I should get a replacement before my 30 days is up.
Let me know what you get completely stock in Time spy without changing power slider..
 
 
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Re: 3090 XC3 Ultra underperforming in timespy? 2020/10/21 19:32:57 (permalink)
Port royal is a power limit benchmark more then anything.

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Re: 3090 XC3 Ultra underperforming in timespy? 2020/10/21 20:09:41 (permalink)
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Port royal is a power limit benchmark more then anything.



Do you by any chance have time spy results on stock settings? Looking to compare our graphics scores.
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Re: 3090 XC3 Ultra underperforming in timespy? 2020/10/21 20:41:41 (permalink)
Go back one page.
Graphics score
18K stock.
18.2K overclocked
On stock bios.

20K on 390W bios.
21.5K 450W shuntted.
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Re: 3090 XC3 Ultra underperforming in timespy? 2020/10/23 07:04:14 (permalink)
Wow this card is not looking good. I might just send it back for refund once I get it..
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Re: 3090 XC3 Ultra underperforming in timespy? 2020/10/23 10:37:07 (permalink)
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Wow this card is not looking good. I might just send it back for refund once I get it..




Yeah, also making me wonder as well. Fortunately I am far enough behind in the queue that I will have plenty of time to consider AMD's offerings before I could ever get the 3090s I signed up for.
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Re: 3090 XC3 Ultra underperforming in timespy? 2020/10/23 11:20:19 (permalink)
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Here's what upsetting the discrete GPU market looks like: 
 
Navi 21 is shaping up to be as fast as the 3090 with 16GB of video memory on 7nm TSMC node with a 256 bit bus (128mb cache will compensate for this) @ 300w (100w less than GA-102-300) for $1000 and will run all of the next gen console ports, whose underlying architecture, RDNA 2, is the same and whose engines, including Unreal engine, will be heavily optimized around. Both next-gen consoles will have native path tracing, AI super-sampling and their equivalent of 'RTX IO' (AMD invented this first, NGreedia followed suit). 
 



You were doing fine with your post until this.
 
There are no leaked numbers or expectations that say Big Navi will be on par with the 3090. Everything to date says it slots between 3070 and 3080. Wish it was a better performer, but that lines up with their goal of double a 5700XT performance. What remains to be seen is how much headroom is avail due to TSMC's 7nm process.
 
I assume when you talk about RTX IO you are referring to AMD's HBCC? HBCC was forward thinking of AMD, but still sits unused. RTX IO is Nvidia's implementation of DX12's DirectStorage. Since XBSX is using RDNA2(ish), I would assume AMD has HBCC or a newly re-vamped version of it ready to go.
 
Also, just FYI, the Samsung 8nm isn't EUV. Their 7nm is and their 5nm will be then transitioning to GAA. It's one of the reasons there are such power inefficiencies with Ampere.
https://news.samsung.com/...ion-of-8nm-lpp-process




https://wccftech.com/amd-...ark-benchmarks-leaked/
 
 
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post edited by Cool GTX - 2020/10/23 11:40:17

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Re: 3090 XC3 Ultra underperforming in timespy? 2020/10/23 12:25:35 (permalink)
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Port royal is a power limit benchmark more then anything.





Curious, what resolution is this running at?  And if you are selecting "Auto" which is the default setting, what resolution is your monitor?
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Re: 3090 XC3 Ultra underperforming in timespy? 2020/10/23 17:53:22 (permalink)
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Re: 3090 XC3 Ultra underperforming in timespy? 2020/10/24 10:12:32 (permalink)
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Here's what upsetting the discrete GPU market looks like: 
 
Navi 21 is shaping up to be as fast as the 3090 with 16GB of video memory on 7nm TSMC node with a 256 bit bus (128mb cache will compensate for this) @ 300w (100w less than GA-102-300) for $1000 and will run all of the next gen console ports, whose underlying architecture, RDNA 2, is the same and whose engines, including Unreal engine, will be heavily optimized around. Both next-gen consoles will have native path tracing, AI super-sampling and their equivalent of 'RTX IO' (AMD invented this first, NGreedia followed suit). 
 



You were doing fine with your post until this.
 
There are no leaked numbers or expectations that say Big Navi will be on par with the 3090. Everything to date says it slots between 3070 and 3080. Wish it was a better performer, but that lines up with their goal of double a 5700XT performance. What remains to be seen is how much headroom is avail due to TSMC's 7nm process.
 
I assume when you talk about RTX IO you are referring to AMD's HBCC? HBCC was forward thinking of AMD, but still sits unused. RTX IO is Nvidia's implementation of DX12's DirectStorage. Since XBSX is using RDNA2(ish), I would assume AMD has HBCC or a newly re-vamped version of it ready to go.
 
Also, just FYI, the Samsung 8nm isn't EUV. Their 7nm is and their 5nm will be then transitioning to GAA. It's one of the reasons there are such power inefficiencies with Ampere.
https://news.samsung.com/...ion-of-8nm-lpp-process



https://wccftech.com/amd-...ark-benchmarks-leaked/
 
 
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Cool GTX your edit broke the link, then EVGA.com logged me out for the first time since being a member and I had to use Microsoft Edge to log back in because reCaptcha also refused to work trying to log in. Very suspicious. Wait, youre a moderator of a website of a 3rd party AIB that doesn't sell an AMD product. Total coincidence here. 

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Re: 3090 XC3 Ultra underperforming in timespy? 2020/10/26 17:32:35 (permalink)
OK I got it. My score
 
 
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