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2020/10/31 01:09:30 (permalink)
Hi all
 
Anyone else with the FTW3 getting stupidly high idle temps with no overclock?  Arrived yesterday, running at 60c with zero load. Never drops.  Ramp the fans to 80% and it will drop to 40c after a while. Set back to auto and it goes straight back to 60c.  Running in a Lian-Li o11 Dynamic XL with balanced air profile, 9 fans in total with airflow direct to the card. My old 2080ti OC from Gigabyte idled at 35 in the same case. Fault? Normal? Dried out thermal paste? It shouldn’t arrive like that. Im not getting the boosts I should either. 17500 or so in time spy is bad. 


Ryzen 3950x, 64GB 3600, on an MSI Godlike.
 
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 08:41:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Iseptimus 2020/10/31 11:59:57
What do load temps look like? 85C instantly?
 
If not, set to the OC VBIOS and reboot - you're in 0 dB mode with the normal VBIOS, and 60C is when the fans kick on. With the OC VBIOS the fan speed is set to a minimum of 33% (and a more aggressive overall fan profile).

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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 08:53:18 (permalink)
Just wondering, is your motherboard PCIe 4 capable?  Mine, on Intel board and Precision X1 not running, seems to idle around 44° C and the fans are not spinning..  Ambient temp is probably a factor in some variances.

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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 10:03:34 (permalink)
With OC switch set and aggressive fan profile from PX1, I idle at 40-45 C. In games, I'm high 70's low 80's. Thinking I might need to re arrange fans on my define R7
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 11:43:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Iseptimus 2020/10/31 11:59:53
Same 60C here. and as soon as I play Red dead 2 the temps go to 75-82C in a few minutes. This card runs really hot and I'm second guessing my purchase.
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 11:54:51 (permalink)
I have been using my FTW3 3090 for about 12 hours now and my idle temps are between 29c-32c. This is with the bios switch set to OC.
Under load 75c is the highest that I have seen. This is with an +80/+850 overclock. The top power draw on the card is 450w.
 
My previous card, an EVGA 1080ti SC2, was running way hotter and louder than the 3090. 
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 11:59:29 (permalink)
Thanks all.
 
So, under load, goes to 73/4c and stays there.  Clocks stay at 1950 and minimum hit 1930.  Not bad, but won't boost above I assume without tweaking.
It is running on PCIe 4 on an MSI Creation.  3 individual rails from the power supply (only 1000w but seems okay).
 
Ambient temp ranges from 18-21 (as the heating fluctuates).  CPU is sitting between 35/7c right now while replying, maxes at about 64c under 100% load.
 
I'll try the OC bios thanks.  The fans are constantly stopping and starting.  Can't be great for the motor or bearings.  Like others regretting my purchase a little.  You'd think at this price the experience would be better than an ASUS TUF.
 
Airflow is good in the case I believe.
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 12:00:58 (permalink)
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I have been using my FTW3 3090 for about 12 hours now and my idle temps are between 29c-32c. This is with the bios switch set to OC.
Under load 75c is the highest that I have seen. This is with an +80/+850 overclock. The top power draw on the card is 450w.
 
My previous card, an EVGA 1080ti SC2, was running way hotter and louder than the 3090. 




What case and airflow setup btw?
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 12:01:40 (permalink)
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Same 60C here. and as soon as I play Red dead 2 the temps go to 75-82C in a few minutes. This card runs really hot and I'm second guessing my purchase.


Take the side of your case off, if temps improve you know you need more airflow - the slow increase over a few minutes to 82C seems makes me think that. If it were instantly 82C, that would point to bad contact of the heatsink to the GPU die.

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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 12:05:23 (permalink)
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Same 60C here. and as soon as I play Red dead 2 the temps go to 75-82C in a few minutes. This card runs really hot and I'm second guessing my purchase.


Take the side of your case off, if temps improve you know you need more airflow - the slow increase over a few minutes to 82C seems makes me think that. If it were instantly 82C, that would point to bad contact of the heatsink to the GPU die.




Same case with same fans with my 1080ti hybrid I was getting 30-35C idle and 40-45C under load with RDR2. My room temp is 70-73F at all times so I don't think my case cooling is that bad to be honest.
 
And yes I tried the OC bios and what it does is ramp up the fans sooner so you get slightly better temps at the expense of more fan noise.
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 12:05:33 (permalink)
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I have been using my FTW3 3090 for about 12 hours now and my idle temps are between 29c-32c. This is with the bios switch set to OC.
Under load 75c is the highest that I have seen. This is with an +80/+850 overclock. The top power draw on the card is 450w.
 
My previous card, an EVGA 1080ti SC2, was running way hotter and louder than the 3090. 




What case and airflow setup btw?




My case is a Cooler Master Cosmos C700P.
3 fans for intake and 4 fans for exhaust
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 12:08:06 (permalink)
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Same 60C here. and as soon as I play Red dead 2 the temps go to 75-82C in a few minutes. This card runs really hot and I'm second guessing my purchase.


Take the side of your case off, if temps improve you know you need more airflow - the slow increase over a few minutes to 82C seems makes me think that. If it were instantly 82C, that would point to bad contact of the heatsink to the GPU die.




Same case with same fans with my 1080ti hybrid I was getting 30-35C idle and 40-45C under load with RDR2. My room temp is 70-73F at all times so I don't think my case cooling is that bad to be honest.


I had a 250W 1080 Ti set up with a AiO water cooler that exhausted heat out of the case, so not much of that heat was left in the case. The 3 fan, 450W 3090 FTW3 does not exhaust heat outside of the case - it dumps it all into the case.
 
Again, I suggest you take the side of your case off and see if temperatures improve. If they do, you need more airflow or a re-arrangement of the fans to optimise airflow to better suit that 450W being dumped into the case.
 
Edit: also, my 3090 FTW3 runs at 68 to 72C depending on the game and room temperature with the OC VBIOS with more aggressive fans. But it does look like 72C is the temperature target with auto fans, at least that's what I am seeing.
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 12:30:07 (permalink)
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Anyone else with the FTW3 getting stupidly high idle temps with no overclock?  Arrived yesterday, running at 60c with zero load. Never drops.  Ramp the fans to 80% and it will drop to 40c after a while. Set back to auto and it goes straight back to 60c.  Running in a Lian-Li o11 Dynamic XL with balanced air profile, 9 fans in total with airflow direct to the card.


Something is wrong with the card. I run a 3090FTW3 Ultra (OC w/ 500w BIOS *cough* doesn't work *cough*) as well on an X570 w/ a 3900XT in a Lian-Li o11D (non-xl) w/ 3 side intakes, 2 bottom intakes, and 6 top exhausts (push/pull rad) and I idle ~28c w/ a room temp of ~22c, load she hits ~68c. No way in hell the card should be idling at 60c. 
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 12:56:32 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Iseptimus 2020/10/31 13:16:35
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Hi all
 
Anyone else with the FTW3 getting stupidly high idle temps with no overclock?  Arrived yesterday, running at 60c with zero load. Never drops.  Ramp the fans to 80% and it will drop to 40c after a while. Set back to auto and it goes straight back to 60c.  Running in a Lian-Li o11 Dynamic XL with balanced air profile, 9 fans in total with airflow direct to the card. My old 2080ti OC from Gigabyte idled at 35 in the same case. Fault? Normal? Dried out thermal paste? It shouldn’t arrive like that. Im not getting the boosts I should either. 17500 or so in time spy is bad. 


Ryzen 3950x, 64GB 3600, on an MSI Godlike.
 
Cheers.


This same thing happened to me; here's how to  fix it:
 
NVIDIA Control Panel > Manage 3D Settings > click Restore. Apply that, reboot, then let us know if that did it, please!
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 12:57:11 (permalink)
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Anyone else with the FTW3 getting stupidly high idle temps with no overclock?  Arrived yesterday, running at 60c with zero load. Never drops.  Ramp the fans to 80% and it will drop to 40c after a while. Set back to auto and it goes straight back to 60c.  Running in a Lian-Li o11 Dynamic XL with balanced air profile, 9 fans in total with airflow direct to the card.


Something is wrong with the card. I run a 3090FTW3 Ultra (OC w/ 500w BIOS *cough* doesn't work *cough*) as well on an X570 w/ a 3900XT in a Lian-Li o11D (non-xl) w/ 3 side intakes, 2 bottom intakes, and 6 top exhausts (push/pull rad) and I idle ~28c w/ a room temp of ~22c, load she hits ~68c. No way in hell the card should be idling at 60c. 




Sadly seems like it.  OC BIOS, fans still only go to 10% and flick on and off.  Under load they work, but back at 60c.
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 13:08:17 (permalink)
@usafrcd

That really helped!

I thought I selected wipe all settings on the new driver install.

Testing, thanks.
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 13:26:26 (permalink)
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Hi all
 
Anyone else with the FTW3 getting stupidly high idle temps with no overclock?  Arrived yesterday, running at 60c with zero load. Never drops.  Ramp the fans to 80% and it will drop to 40c after a while. Set back to auto and it goes straight back to 60c.  Running in a Lian-Li o11 Dynamic XL with balanced air profile, 9 fans in total with airflow direct to the card. My old 2080ti OC from Gigabyte idled at 35 in the same case. Fault? Normal? Dried out thermal paste? It shouldn’t arrive like that. Im not getting the boosts I should either. 17500 or so in time spy is bad. 


Ryzen 3950x, 64GB 3600, on an MSI Godlike.
 
Cheers.


This same thing happened to me; here's how to  fix it:
 
NVIDIA Control Panel > Manage 3D Settings > click Restore. Apply that, reboot, then let us know if that did it, please!




Idling at 28c!  Thanks.  
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 14:16:00 (permalink)
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With OC switch set and aggressive fan profile from PX1, I idle at 40-45 C. In games, I'm high 70's low 80's. Thinking I might need to re arrange fans on my define R7


Just wanted to update my post here, changed my config a bit in my R7 and dropped about 15 degrees C.

Originally I was running:
3x 120mm fans top exhaust
1x 140mm fan rear exhaust
2x 120mm intake fans on the front, mounted to kraken x62 in push config
1x 140mm fan in the basement intake

I changed up the following, everything else the same:
2x 140mm intake in push config to 4x 140mm intake in a push/pull config
1x 120mm in the basement.

This drastically helped reduce my Temps, now I have head room to OC again. People in this thread are correct, these cards need air flow.
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Re: 3090 Ultra FTW running hot 2020/10/31 15:15:11 (permalink)
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Hi all
 
Anyone else with the FTW3 getting stupidly high idle temps with no overclock?  Arrived yesterday, running at 60c with zero load. Never drops.  Ramp the fans to 80% and it will drop to 40c after a while. Set back to auto and it goes straight back to 60c.  Running in a Lian-Li o11 Dynamic XL with balanced air profile, 9 fans in total with airflow direct to the card. My old 2080ti OC from Gigabyte idled at 35 in the same case. Fault? Normal? Dried out thermal paste? It shouldn’t arrive like that. Im not getting the boosts I should either. 17500 or so in time spy is bad. 


Ryzen 3950x, 64GB 3600, on an MSI Godlike.
 
Cheers.


This same thing happened to me; here's how to  fix it:
 
NVIDIA Control Panel > Manage 3D Settings > click Restore. Apply that, reboot, then let us know if that did it, please!




Idling at 28c!  Thanks.  


Perfect; happy to hear it!
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