Braegnok

rjbarker
 
 
Braegnok....how do you find the Kingpin Board vs the Apex Board ?

I have been tempted to pull the trigger on a 3090Ti w new EK Block ....but after a great gaming session last night of FC6 I cant justify the upgrade over a 3080Ti, especially with 40xx around the corner...tempting for sure....but no can do ;)

Hello rj,
 
Actually I haven't had time to finish the water cooling,.. temporarily going with dual MORA 420 Pro systems with 8x200mm fans, two D5 pumps.
 
I know the Z690 Dark does not have enough onboard sensors, water temp sensors, fan and pump headers for the test system I'm building. 
 
I'm setting up the Aquaero 6 LT controller, and EK-Quantum Lumen 7" LCD for graphics tonight. https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-lumen-7-lcd-black
 
Installed the EK-Quantum Delta2 TEC block yesterday. https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-delta2-tec-d-rgb-full-nickel
 
I need several water temp sensors, fan controllers for the TEC block software. 
 
The CPU will temporarily have it's own 420 pro, and the RAM & GPU will be on the second 420 pro,.. while I test the Delta2 TEC block with i9-12900K.
 
After a few days testing the Delta2 block and learning the software I plan on pulling it. I'll use it on another build down the road with i5-13600K.
 
I'll be going with i9-12900KS, the EK-Quantum Velocity2 block,.. and single MORA for the new Z690 Dark Kingpin system.  
 
I should have everything dialed in, and all the software figured out by next week,.. still have a ton of wiring to do. 
 
The EVGA BIOS is also going to be a learning curve for me, as I have only ran a few EVGA boards in the past,.. going to be a fun project. 

kraade

imenno
There is such a question, is the water active backplate ekwb from 3090 ftw3 to 3090TI ftw3 suitable? To additionally cool and take heat from the board opposite the memory and the chip on the back side. On the 3080 it was effective.

They sell a 1 sided kit and a 2 sided kit, 249 for the 1 and 399 for the 2, this card is not going to get the same kind of benefit as the 3090 from the backside  because no ram there, but it would keep the whole card cooler, yes, I don't think it is necessary, the metal backplate on the 1 sided card works fine for the TI since all the rams touches the block,

redteamgo

Braegnok

rjbarker
 
 
Braegnok....how do you find the Kingpin Board vs the Apex Board ?

I have been tempted to pull the trigger on a 3090Ti w new EK Block ....but after a great gaming session last night of FC6 I cant justify the upgrade over a 3080Ti, especially with 40xx around the corner...tempting for sure....but no can do ;)

Hello rj,
 
Actually I haven't had time to finish the water cooling,.. temporarily going with dual MORA 420 Pro systems with 8x200mm fans, two D5 pumps.
 
I know the Z690 Dark does not have enough onboard sensors, water temp sensors, fan and pump headers for the test system I'm building. 
 
I'm setting up the Aquaero 6 LT controller, and EK-Quantum Lumen 7" LCD for graphics tonight. https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-lumen-7-lcd-black
 
Installed the EK-Quantum Delta2 TEC block yesterday. https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-delta2-tec-d-rgb-full-nickel
 
I need several water temp sensors, fan controllers for the TEC block software. 
 
The CPU will temporarily have it's own 420 pro, and the RAM & GPU will be on the second 420 pro,.. while I test the Delta2 TEC block with i9-12900K.
 
After a few days testing the Delta2 block and learning the software I plan on pulling it. I'll use it on another build down the road with i5-13600K.
 
I'll be going with i9-12900KS, the EK-Quantum Velocity2 block,.. and single MORA for the new Z690 Dark Kingpin system.  
 
I should have everything dialed in, and all the software figured out by next week,.. still have a ton of wiring to do. 
 
The EVGA BIOS is also going to be a learning curve for me, as I have only ran a few EVGA boards in the past,.. going to be a fun project. 

 
are you using a chiller with that CPU block? 

Braegnok

redteamgo

Braegnok

rjbarker
 
 
Braegnok....how do you find the Kingpin Board vs the Apex Board ?

I have been tempted to pull the trigger on a 3090Ti w new EK Block ....but after a great gaming session last night of FC6 I cant justify the upgrade over a 3080Ti, especially with 40xx around the corner...tempting for sure....but no can do ;)

Hello rj,
 
Actually I haven't had time to finish the water cooling,.. temporarily going with dual MORA 420 Pro systems with 8x200mm fans, two D5 pumps.
 
I know the Z690 Dark does not have enough onboard sensors, water temp sensors, fan and pump headers for the test system I'm building. 
 
I'm setting up the Aquaero 6 LT controller, and EK-Quantum Lumen 7" LCD for graphics tonight. https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-lumen-7-lcd-black
 
Installed the EK-Quantum Delta2 TEC block yesterday. https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-delta2-tec-d-rgb-full-nickel
 
I need several water temp sensors, fan controllers for the TEC block software. 
 
The CPU will temporarily have it's own 420 pro, and the RAM & GPU will be on the second 420 pro,.. while I test the Delta2 TEC block with i9-12900K.
 
After a few days testing the Delta2 block and learning the software I plan on pulling it. I'll use it on another build down the road with i5-13600K.
 
I'll be going with i9-12900KS, the EK-Quantum Velocity2 block,.. and single MORA for the new Z690 Dark Kingpin system.  
 
I should have everything dialed in, and all the software figured out by next week,.. still have a ton of wiring to do. 
 
The EVGA BIOS is also going to be a learning curve for me, as I have only ran a few EVGA boards in the past,.. going to be a fun project. 

 
are you using a chiller with that CPU block? 

No chiller.
 
I was going to test the Delta2 TEC block a few days ago,.. but after doing some research, I found out EVGA Z690 Kingpin does not support Thermal velocity Boost,..
 
and the Gen2 Cryo software on Intel site was outdated and did not support i9-12900K, i9-12900KS chips. 
 
So I went with EK-Velocty2 block and I'm using single 420 Pro MORA rad with a D5 pump,.. almost finished. 
 
I guess on the bright side,.. on 8/29/22  EK-Support sent me the current Cryo Software for Z690 and EVGATech_LeeM is adding TVB support in a future BIOS for the Z690 Kingpin. 
 
So perhaps I will test the TEC block down the road some day,.. but for now it's just an expensive paperweight, lesson learned about pre-ordering hardware before doing enough research.   
 

kraade

imenno

kraade

imenno
There is such a question, is the water active backplate ekwb from 3090 ftw3 to 3090TI ftw3 suitable? To additionally cool and take heat from the board opposite the memory and the chip on the back side. On the 3080 it was effective.

They sell a 1 sided kit and a 2 sided kit, 249 for the 1 and 399 for the 2, this card is not going to get the same kind of benefit as the 3090 from the backside  because no ram there, but it would keep the whole card cooler, yes, I don't think it is necessary, the metal backplate on the 1 sided card works fine for the TI since all the rams touches the block,

I don't agree. Helped on 3080. And on the 3090TI, it should also help to reduce the temperature of the point "j" or the so-called MEMj temperature, which is located between the chip and the board. And it will be useful to take the temperature from the board on the back side.  And the price on the manufacturer's website for a double set is 327.65 euros or dollars, since the euro and the dollar are equal in price, and free shipping around the world.

 

I agree you need to sell some of the useless over engineered high end models 

imenno

Braegnok

kraade

imenno

kraade

imenno
There is such a question, is the water active backplate ekwb from 3090 ftw3 to 3090TI ftw3 suitable? To additionally cool and take heat from the board opposite the memory and the chip on the back side. On the 3080 it was effective.

They sell a 1 sided kit and a 2 sided kit, 249 for the 1 and 399 for the 2, this card is not going to get the same kind of benefit as the 3090 from the backside  because no ram there, but it would keep the whole card cooler, yes, I don't think it is necessary, the metal backplate on the 1 sided card works fine for the TI since all the rams touches the block,

I don't agree. Helped on 3080. And on the 3090TI, it should also help to reduce the temperature of the point "j" or the so-called MEMj temperature, which is located between the chip and the board. And it will be useful to take the temperature from the board on the back side.  And the price on the manufacturer's website for a double set is 327.65 euros or dollars, since the euro and the dollar are equal in price, and free shipping around the world.

 

I agree you need to sell some of the useless over engineered high end models 

+1 
 
Active backplate is useless bling on RTX 3090 Ti as the card does not have any memory chips on the back of the PCB. 
 
Active Backplate is only beneficial on the RTX 3090 as it does have memory chips on the back of the PCB.
 
Active Backplate for RTX 3080 is also useless bling. https://youtu.be/KNpSwotBehY?t=443

This doesn't sound right. In the video, a person is testing the gpu with a stress test without memory load. I have water cooled both 3080 and 3090. Both benefitted massively from active backplate with pad changes.
3080 - Stock cooler and pads - Mining - 110c and throttling.
3080 - Water cooled with active backplate and bad pads that came with bykski gpu water block - Mining - 90c (obv not throttling)
3080 - Water cooled with active backplate and GELID 12.8w/mk Pads got it down to 60c while mining! That is an insane difference just for pads though. +1300mhz on memory. A huge difference even when there are no chips in the back, because you do not understand what you are saying. Active backplate will also be effective on 3090ti. These are facts that there is no point in arguing with. The point is to remove heat from the board on the other side, since the highest temperature is between the chip and the board and the board heats up the most, and not on the surface of the chip on the other side.

imenno.the euro and the dollar are equal in price, and free shipping around the world.