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2020/09/27 15:47:53 (permalink)
So when can we expect it? November? Maybe Mid October? And what price range we looking at?
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:19:22 (permalink)
    It can't be that far off as Kingpin just used one to plow through the 16k barrier in Port Royal. I would say before the end of Nov, but who knows for sure. Good question for EVGAWEEKLY stream. You could snag a card now if you get lucky and step up to a KP when they get released. 
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:27:24 (permalink)
    I'd agree that it would be sometime around or right after the hydro/ hybrid cards get released. Would be very surprised if it's after November.
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:28:40 (permalink)
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    I'd agree that it would be sometime around or right after the hydro/ hybrid cards get released. Would be very surprised if it's after November.


    Agreed
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:29:05 (permalink)
    Anyone know if Nvidia will release any graphics card above the 3090 this generation perhaps? Only hesitancy for me waiting is the idea Nvidia would do like a "3090ti"; in which the may optimize performance of the card for more gaming application.


     
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:31:01 (permalink)
    From past experience I would say it's pretty likely. Especially if amd kills it in October.. Might be middle of next year though so I wouldn't wait for it if you need to upgrade.
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:32:01 (permalink)
    It seems like Nvidia is starting to do a tick-tock structure with half step cards every other year.
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:32:57 (permalink)
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    From past experience I would say it's pretty likely. Especially if amd kills it in October.. Might be middle of next year though so I wouldn't wait for it if you need to upgrade.


    So happy if we are back in a competitive graphics card war. We all will be the real winners.
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:33:34 (permalink)
    Step up sounds like a good idea. I'm waiting for the FTW3 to restock.
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:33:50 (permalink)
    tristanmag
    From past experience I would say it's pretty likely. Especially if amd kills it in October.. Might be middle of next year though so I wouldn't wait for it if you need to upgrade.



    Yeah, I am still running a EVGA 980ti Classy, so I was looking at the 3000 series as a serious upgrade. I have the funds currently, so what I was thinking was a 3080/3090 EVGA FTW3 Ultra, get an LG CX 55" sometime during Black Friday (LG C9 Series had a really good discount last year during that time, so maybe LG with do the same this year), then upgrade when the possible "3090ti" comes out. I sold some records recently and have like $5,000 to work with. Already got all the new parts for the new build besides the Graphics Card.


     
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:34:11 (permalink)
    tristanmag
    It seems like Nvidia is starting to do a tick-tock structure with half step cards every other year.



    Half step?  It's only about 30% improvement once you adjust for power level.
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:34:56 (permalink)
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    Step up sounds like a good idea. I'm waiting for the FTW3 to restock.



    This, aside from the quality of cards, is why I chose EVGA time and time again. Makes it much easier for us to upgrade without the headache of constantly having to sell/buy new cards.


     
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:36:21 (permalink)
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    From past experience I would say it's pretty likely. Especially if amd kills it in October.. Might be middle of next year though so I wouldn't wait for it if you need to upgrade.


    So happy if we are back in a competitive graphics card war. We all will be the real winners.



    Hear, Hear!


     
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:38:48 (permalink)
    Nice. Yeah, I'm planning on upgrading to an rtx 3080 to see how it performs for my needs and potentially stepping up to the 3090 or 3090ti depending on that. Feel like because these cards are so hot right now you could sell it and upgrade to the ti even if you miss the step up window.
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:39:53 (permalink)
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    Step up sounds like a good idea. I'm waiting for the FTW3 to restock.



    This, aside from the quality of cards, is why I chose EVGA time and time again. Makes it much easier for us to upgrade without the headache of constantly having to sell/buy new cards.


    +1 Their customer service and step up program are unmatched.
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:40:36 (permalink)
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    Nice. Yeah, I'm planning on upgrading to an rtx 3080 to see how it performs for my needs and potentially stepping up to the 3090 or 3090ti depending on that. Feel like because these cards are so hot right now you could sell it and upgrade to the ti even if you miss the step up window.



    That sounds like a good plan. I had been considering that as well. Been going back and forth if I want to do a 3080 or 3090 and do step up program. I haven't done it in a while, do they just have you pay the difference of the cards, right? (Like if you did step up from 3080 to 3090, it would just be the difference of the cost of the card).


     
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:42:35 (permalink)
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    Nice. Yeah, I'm planning on upgrading to an rtx 3080 to see how it performs for my needs and potentially stepping up to the 3090 or 3090ti depending on that. Feel like because these cards are so hot right now you could sell it and upgrade to the ti even if you miss the step up window.



    That sounds like a good plan. I had been considering that as well. Been going back and forth if I want to do a 3080 or 3090 and do step up program. I haven't done it in a while, do they just have you pay the difference of the cards, right? (Like if you did step up from 3080 to 3090, it would just be the difference of the cost of the card).


    Yep, just the difference in cost and the cost of return shipping which is $20-30 depending how fast you want your card. Typically is a couple days of downtime without a card..
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:45:30 (permalink)
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    Nice. Yeah, I'm planning on upgrading to an rtx 3080 to see how it performs for my needs and potentially stepping up to the 3090 or 3090ti depending on that. Feel like because these cards are so hot right now you could sell it and upgrade to the ti even if you miss the step up window.



    That sounds like a good plan. I had been considering that as well. Been going back and forth if I want to do a 3080 or 3090 and do step up program. I haven't done it in a while, do they just have you pay the difference of the cards, right? (Like if you did step up from 3080 to 3090, it would just be the difference of the cost of the card).


    Yep, just the difference in cost and the cost of return shipping which is $20-30 depending how fast you want your card. Typically is a couple days of downtime without a card..



    Awesome. That was my experience when I did it will my 980 to 980ti Classy years ago. Had a great experience with EVGA handling that, and being able to just upgrade. Honestly, I have no idea why other companies don't do this. It makes so much sense, and win-win for the us the customers and the company getting to roll out affordable "B-Stock".


     
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:45:32 (permalink)
    Don't you also have to pay the taxes on both?  I don't think you just pay the taxes on the difference.

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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:45:49 (permalink)
    With step-up.. do you have to return your card first or do they send you the upgrade first?
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:49:22 (permalink)
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    Don't you also have to pay the taxes on both?  I don't think you just pay the taxes on the difference.


    Is this true? Like taxes on the entire card purchase? I mean, I don't think it is the biggest deal, but it kind of sucks somewhat. I mean, I think you make break out better doing the step up and paying difference then having to sell card, fees, then buy full price again. At least EVGA values the card fairly.


     
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 16:52:14 (permalink)
    AlainL
    With step-up.. do you have to return your card first or do they send you the upgrade first?


    You have to mail in your card first as collateral. They send you the new card within 1-3 business days typically once they get yours.
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 18:12:57 (permalink)
    EVGA's step up program is hands down the best thing in the whole industry. I bet they get a boat load of return customers with it.
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 18:15:50 (permalink)
    Keeps people in the system to get new hardware and lets others benefit from their b-stock. There's a lot to like about the program.
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 18:25:55 (permalink)
    It's coming faster than everyone thinks!
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 18:30:56 (permalink)
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    EVGA's step up program is hands down the best thing in the whole industry. I bet they get a boat load of return customers with it.




    Agreed. Honestly, it has kept me with EVGA video cards for my last 2 iterations. I am finally looking to upgrade my 980ti Classy!


     
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 18:32:47 (permalink)
    It would be nice to see other manufacturers show this level of awareness for their customers
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 18:37:22 (permalink)
    Wondering what the MSRP on this might look like. I mean, if may just wait for ROG Strix or EVGA Kingpin at this point.


     
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 18:54:21 (permalink)
    tristanmag
    From past experience I would say it's pretty likely. Especially if amd kills it in October.. Might be middle of next year though so I wouldn't wait for it if you need to upgrade.



    I'm not so sure I believe Nvidia has anything else beyond the 3090. From everything I've heard, the 3090 was Nvidia's best effort to keep the performance crown, and they'll have nothing to respond with if it fails. That said, nothing I've seen leaked hints that Big Navi will beat the 3090, and most people seem to think it'll be about 3080 in performance. 
     
    At best, we might get a 3090 Super in a year or so, as Micron has hinted that they'd like to double the bandwidth of GDDR6 with their new GDDR6X, and the current release was unable to double it. 
     
    Additionally, GDDR6X is about 20% more expensive than GDDR6, and that may make it difficult for Nvidia to compete (price-wise) if Big Navi can match a 3080.
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    Re: 3090 KingPin 2020/09/27 19:00:49 (permalink)
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    tristanmag
    From past experience I would say it's pretty likely. Especially if amd kills it in October.. Might be middle of next year though so I wouldn't wait for it if you need to upgrade.



    I'm not so sure I believe Nvidia has anything else beyond the 3090. From everything I've heard, the 3090 was Nvidia's best effort to keep the performance crown, and they'll have nothing to respond with if it fails. That said, nothing I've seen leaked hints that Big Navi will beat the 3090, and most people seem to think it'll be about 3080 in performance. 
     
    At best, we might get a 3090 Super in a year or so, as Micron has hinted that they'd like to double the bandwidth of GDDR6 with their new GDDR6X, and the current release was unable to double it. 
     
    Additionally, GDDR6X is about 20% more expensive than GDDR6, and that may make it difficult for Nvidia to compete (price-wise) if Big Navi can match a 3080.




    Yeah, I mean they will be releasing a 3080 20G, but with the small performance differentiation between 3080 and 3090, it would make sense for Nvidia to focus on like a 3090 Super or ti.


     
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