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2021/05/24 11:11:55 (permalink)
Am I just extremely unlucky with cards, or does the 3090 ftw3 ultra have an alarmingly high failure rate? I've seen many posts on here of people having to RMA their 3090 multiple times. 
 
This is crazy. I'm not going to keep paying for shipping just to get a refurbished card not in original packaging that will die again in 2 months. Has EVGA said anything about 3090 failures and if they're working on a solution?
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:15:06 (permalink)
    - Quality PSU
     
    - Good Air Flow
     
    - Monitoring
     
    - Frame rate limiting
     
    If you can't explain how you did the above, I don't want to hear about how a high-strung 420W gpu crapped out.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/05/24 13:25:56
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:16:41 (permalink)
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    - Quality PSU
     
    - Good Air Flow
     
    - Monitoring


    I have a 1300W platinum PSU and 9 fans. Airflow and power is not an issue.
     
    So it's my fault the GPU died? Lol. I was playing Halo, barely pushing the GPU. 
    post edited by VegasBaby - 2021/05/24 11:20:14
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:23:23 (permalink)
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    - Quality PSU
     
    - Good Air Flow
     
    - Monitoring


    I have a 1300W platinum PSU and 9 fans. Airflow and power is not an issue.
     
    So it's my fault the GPU died? Lol. I was playing Halo, barely pushing the GPU. 




    OK fair enough.  Thanks.
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:23:25 (permalink)
    number of fans is not always a good indication of airflow.  just saying.


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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:25:46 (permalink)
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    number of fans is not always a good indication of airflow.  just saying.




    Yeah "1300W platinum PSU and 9 fans" doesn't really tell us jack squat.  Does OP want help or a pity party?
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:26:20 (permalink)
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    - Quality PSU
     
    - Good Air Flow
     
    - Monitoring


    I have a 1300W platinum PSU and 9 fans. Airflow and power is not an issue.
     
    So it's my fault the GPU died? Lol. I was playing Halo, barely pushing the GPU. 




    Actually..yes.
     

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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:29:15 (permalink)
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    number of fans is not always a good indication of airflow.  just saying.


    My temps never hit 80 C. And I have a ton of air moving out the top and back of my case. My airflow is fine. 
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:30:56 (permalink)
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    number of fans is not always a good indication of airflow.  just saying.


    My temps never hit 80 C. And I have a ton of air moving out the top and back of my case. My airflow is fine. 




    So you don't really know then eh?
     
    Do you have an NZXT case by any chance?
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/05/24 11:32:00
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:32:54 (permalink)
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    - Quality PSU
     
    - Good Air Flow
     
    - Monitoring


    I have a 1300W platinum PSU and 9 fans. Airflow and power is not an issue.
     
    So it's my fault the GPU died? Lol. I was playing Halo, barely pushing the GPU. 




    Actually..yes.
     


    How so?
    I've never had a gpu die on me until purchasing this 3090. And the other GPUs ran for years with no issues. 
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:35:17 (permalink)
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    kevinc313
    - Quality PSU
     
    - Good Air Flow
     
    - Monitoring


    I have a 1300W platinum PSU and 9 fans. Airflow and power is not an issue.
     
    So it's my fault the GPU died? Lol. I was playing Halo, barely pushing the GPU. 




    Actually..yes.
     


    How so?
    I've never had a gpu die on me until purchasing this 3090. And the other GPUs ran for years with no issues. 




    Have you ever owned a GPU that runs at 420W at stock settings right out of the box? 
     
    DO you use a frame cap?  Do you monitor power draw?  VRAM Junction temp?  Hotspot Temp?   HMMMM?
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/05/24 11:36:18
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:35:46 (permalink)
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    number of fans is not always a good indication of airflow.  just saying.


    My temps never hit 80 C. And I have a ton of air moving out the top and back of my case. My airflow is fine. 




    So you don't really know then eh?
     
    Do you have an NZXT case by any chance?


    Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic. 
    So temps are not a good indicator of airflow? That's surprising. 
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:36:45 (permalink)
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    number of fans is not always a good indication of airflow.  just saying.




    i use 9 exhaust fans, is that ok? 
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:38:16 (permalink)
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    number of fans is not always a good indication of airflow.  just saying.


    My temps never hit 80 C. And I have a ton of air moving out the top and back of my case. My airflow is fine. 




    So you don't really know then eh?
     
    Do you have an NZXT case by any chance?


    Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic. 
    So temps are not a good indicator of airflow? That's surprising. 




    "My temps never hit 80 C" isn't a good indicator of anything.  I can run my card at 445w continuous at 49C.
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:40:36 (permalink)
    I love it how still the general consensus over 3090 dying is "it's your fault" :(
    Gl on the next one.
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:44:24 (permalink)
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    - Quality PSU
     
    - Good Air Flow
     
    - Monitoring
     
    - Frame rate limiting
     
    If you can't explain how you did the above, I don't want to hear about how a high-strung 350W gpu crapped out.


    No, The product needs to be made that will last with its specs. Psu, airflow, framerate should be irrelevant if in spec.

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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:51:22 (permalink)
    How often do we see the RTX 3080 topics come around for dying on people?
    I have seen many RTX 3090 topics with issues and red lights with Immediate RMA from EVGA.
    post edited by Nisco3000 - 2021/05/24 12:16:19
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:52:22 (permalink)
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    number of fans is not always a good indication of airflow.  just saying.


    My temps never hit 80 C. And I have a ton of air moving out the top and back of my case. My airflow is fine. 




    So you don't really know then eh?
     
    Do you have an NZXT case by any chance?


    Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic. 
    So temps are not a good indicator of airflow? That's surprising. 




    "My temps never hit 80 C" isn't a good indicator of anything.  I can run my card at 445w continuous at 49C.


    So I can't expect the card to run and not die without completely monitoring it non-stop? A $2000 gpu should not be dying a month in when playing Halo and running stock settings. I have a 1300W PSU and have 6 intake fans and 3 exhaust. My power/cooling is not an issue. 
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:57:02 (permalink)
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    How often do we see the RTX 3080 topics come around for dying on people?
    I have seen many RTX 3090 topics with issues and red lights with Immediately RMA from EVGA.


    Too often... Again, I don't understand the mentality of "it was your fault" for these card failures :/
    At least RMA seems to go fast for most people :)
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 11:57:53 (permalink)
    A card dying while playing Halo? This isn't the first time I've heard that (I think this is the 4th time I've seen that reported).
     
    I'd stay away from that game and report it to Nvidia: https://docs.google.com/f...GP9hMCN6gKssA/viewform
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 12:00:02 (permalink)
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    A card dying while playing Halo? This isn't the first time I've heard that (I think this is the 4th time I've seen that reported).
     
    I'd stay away from that game and report it to Nvidia: 


    Yeah my original 3090 died playing Halo as well. I will not be opening that game again. 
    Thanks for the link, I'll report it. 
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 12:04:24 (permalink)
    Without any data proving adequate setup and normal operating parameters, we can only assume it is OP's fault.  Probably pounding temp and power limits for hours on end without knowing it.
     
    firerain
     
    No, The product needs to be made that will last with its specs. Psu, airflow, framerate should be irrelevant if in spec.




    You want plug and play, buy a PS5.
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 12:06:38 (permalink)
    3090 have the highest tdp of any graphic card, so they heat up the most as well on aircooling.
     
    Did you monitor your gpu temperature and hot spot?
     
    Also having 9 fans is not always equal to good air flow. You need to have more intake than output to create positive pressure inside your case.
     
    Opening the card and replacing thermal paste also helps gaining a few degrees.
     
    If your card went up to 100°C / 212°F you should lower tdp to avoid problems.

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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 12:10:37 (permalink)
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    Without any data proving adequate setup and normal operating parameters, we can only assume it it OP's fault.
     
    firerain
     
    No, The product needs to be made that will last with its specs. Psu, airflow, framerate should be irrelevant if in spec.




    You want plug and play, buy a PS5.




    Apparently the only way for you to believe that a card has issues is for him to fly you to his house so you can validate it yourself?  He as answered every question you asked, and all you have done is to piss on his responses.  I'm glad you're the exception on this forum and not the rule; people asking for help would only get snarky responses and assumptions as opposed to actual advice and help. 

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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 12:12:52 (permalink)
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    3090 have the highest tdp of any graphic card, so they heat up the most as well on aircooling.
     
    Did you monitor your gpu temperature and hot spot?
     
    Also having 9 fans is not always equal to good air flow. You need to have more intake than output to create positive pressure inside your case.
     
    Opening the card and replacing thermal paste also helps gaining a few degrees.
     
    If your card went up to 100°C / 212°F you should lower tdp to avoid problems.


    I monitored the GPU temp and it would hit around 78 C playing Cyberpunk which is probably the highest demand game I own. But, I did not monitor the hot spot. 
     
    I have 6 intake and 3 exhaust so I thought that would be adequate. 
     
    My first card died while running Halo 3 and this second card died while having Halo Master Chief collection open, but I was in the menu screen. Weird. 
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 12:13:50 (permalink)
    Some of the replies are quite funny. What did you do to kill the card? By design the cards don't really allow you to damage them, voltage and power are locked and they throttle down when hot. The 3090 from evga has had the highest failure rates from what I can gather.

    It's takes a generous amount of willful ignorance to ignore the amount of 3090 failures be it black screen, full fan then red and dead or the PCB design not power balancing correctly. They did swap out a analog voltage controller for a digital one on the newer revision. But that's a bandaid for needing a PCB refresh. Hopefully the 90ti rumors make it to reality and bring a revision with them.

    Buildzoid also did his analysis and concluded the ftw3 was not quite built to the standards we've come to expect for a ftw3 variant.

    Evga luckily has great service compared to most in getting it taken care of.

    Be sure to thoroughly document the packing process and condition of your card when returning, purchase insurance for the current day msrp of the card. Don't use USPS. You never know when an ace Ventura is handling your package. Don't get left on the hook saying "I assumed it would be fine".

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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 12:14:39 (permalink)
    Is the PSU new as well? If it is then you might just have extremely bad luck.
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 12:15:47 (permalink)
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    Without any data proving adequate setup and normal operating parameters, we can only assume it it OP's fault.
     
    firerain
     
    No, The product needs to be made that will last with its specs. Psu, airflow, framerate should be irrelevant if in spec.




    You want plug and play, buy a PS5.




    Apparently the only way for you to believe that a card has issues is for him to fly you to his house so you can validate it yourself?  He as answered every question you asked, and all you have done is to piss on his responses.  I'm glad you're the exception on this forum and not the rule; people asking for help would only get snarky responses and assumptions as opposed to actual advice and help. 




    Clearly you've never tried to help anyone out on these forums in any meaningful way, otherwise you'd know that that "yo it's under 80C dood" and "I gots all the fans" (in my glass box) doesn't mean anything.
     
    BTW, I've got 12 fans. Four of them are 3400RPM 120x38mm San Ace server fans push pull on my hybrid rad.
     
    My money is on OP's card having sky high back side VRAM temps, unmonitored of course, and poor backplate airflow due to the design of the O-11. 
     
    No mention of an AIO of course.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/05/24 12:22:47
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 12:16:09 (permalink)
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    A card dying while playing Halo? This isn't the first time I've heard that (I think this is the 4th time I've seen that reported).
     
    I'd stay away from that game and report it to Nvidia: 


    Yeah my original 3090 died playing Halo as well. I will not be opening that game again. 
    Thanks for the link, I'll report it. 




    This is useless, a game can't break your graphic card, your graphic card died probably because it was defective regarding what you say in your posts.
     
    Also there is not enough data to say that there is a problem with the EVGA 3090 series card. It's not because there are several people claming they had the same problem that it means the problem is on every card. On the forum you see only the people posting their problems, most people who bought their card and have no problem with it dont post to brag about it.
     
    You probably got unlucky on your RMA, it happens, happend to me a few years ago, twice in a row. It's not convienient but these are the rules of the game. At least it's better that your card breaks while under warranty than outside :)
     
    It's an opportunity to use your old GTX 660 ti that was rusting in your closet and play fallout 3 one more time until the RMA comes back again 
     
    I hope your 3rd card will be the right one!
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    Re: 3090 Died Again. This is ridiculous. 2021/05/24 12:21:27 (permalink)
    A gpu shouldn’t die just from playing halo. Clearly the ftw3 model has design issues. The ftw3 has been found to run out of pci-e spec as well. Been plenty of complaints logged here on the evga forums.

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