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2021/03/06 20:08:04 (permalink)
I've seen numerous treads of ek blocks and folks getting error 97 on intels and b2 or 62 on amds after installing or dying soon after.  Has anyone  using the other brands seen the same issues? I seen another tread where ek wanted a guy to sent his block and card to them.  This is pretty troubling if you have any more info please add it below. 
 
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/06 22:25:16 (permalink)
    happend to my Strix just got a replacement from Asus, so its not just EVGA. I know i had to use a few different size thermal pads besides recommended or i would never have had gotten backplate on, also had one of those mp5 backplate coolers aswell.
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/06 22:53:32 (permalink)
    I just followed the instructions (block & backplate) and it has been running strong for around a month.
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 02:43:52 (permalink)
    blaise
    I just followed the instructions (block & backplate) and it has been running strong for around a month.

    Do you have 3080 or 3090?
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 08:53:17 (permalink)
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    blaise
    I just followed the instructions (block & backplate) and it has been running strong for around a month.

    Do you have 3080 or 3090?

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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 09:09:59 (permalink)
    I’ve been turned off from the custom loop idea because of all of the reports. However part of me has wondered if it’s just been poor installation and direction following. 

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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 09:33:03 (permalink)
    I have been watercooling since 2010 and never had an issue in the past. I just finished installing the EK waterblock on my 3080 FTW3 last night. I made no modifications to any pads.

    The only differences I have made from the EK manual is that instead of the X method when applying thermal paste to the die, I used my usual manual spreading method with a credit card. Also instead of the EK TIM I used my own thermal grizzly hydronaught TIM that I had laying around.

    Also I’m not using the EK backplate but the EVGA one instead because I like the way it looks. I drilled the holes on the EVGA backplate to make them wider.

    I will report back with my results later today once I’m done with the tubing
    post edited by Cableguy696969 - 2021/03/07 09:37:02

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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 09:34:25 (permalink)
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    blaise
    I just followed the instructions (block & backplate) and it has been running strong for around a month.

    Do you have 3080 or 3090?

    3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming

    Okay. My friend has a 3090 ftw3 also with EK block running great. In my opinion it seems like there has been more cases with 3080 but it may just be bacause 3080 is more popular. Don’t know.. Let’s see where this goes. Thanks for the answer. :)
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 10:39:13 (permalink)
    I have had my EK water block on my 3090FTW Ultra for over a month and a half without any problems with it period.

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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 13:56:50 (permalink)
    No problems here with Ekwb waterblock on a 3090 FTW3 ultra. Some people may have tried to put the backplate on with the GPU bracket on as it is not specifically stated in the manual. Otherwise, I don't see any way to screw that up. Electrostatic discharge can always be a problem but is very rare. 
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 13:58:33 (permalink)
    Emparus
    No problems here with Ekwb waterblock on a 3090 FTW3 ultra. Some people may have tried to put the backplate on with the GPU bracket on as it is not specifically stated in the manual. Otherwise, I don't see any way to screw that up. Electrostatic discharge can always be a problem but is very rare. 

    I took the io-bracket off when installing but my 3080 ftw3 died after ~2h of using with the block. Normal temps etc. Got artifacts and the card died.
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 14:59:51 (permalink)
    I've had  my 3090 FTW3 Ek block and backplate installed since early January without a single issue. In fact I have never had a GPU fail or quit working after a water block install ever and having been doing it since the old Dangerden days.
     
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 17:27:35 (permalink)
    Emparus
    No problems here with Ekwb waterblock on a 3090 FTW3 ultra. Some people may have tried to put the backplate on with the GPU bracket on as it is not specifically stated in the manual. Otherwise, I don't see any way to screw that up. Electrostatic discharge can always be a problem but is very rare. 




    I installed the EKWB on my 2080ti and the directions were flat out wrong. Also, the backplate was missing thermal pads, etc.. All in all it was a very stressful and  frustrating process and it is *super* easy to mess up if the directions tells you flat out the wrong pad thickness for certain chips on the board.  Also, what is up with having to cut the pads to the correct width for the price point they ask for?  I went hybrid (KingPin) this time and am waiting for the hydro versions...
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 17:51:24 (permalink)
    Didn’t know this was a wide-spread issue. Installed a block on a 3090 Strix and FTW3 Ultra; and haven’t had any problems.

    Not entirely happy with the EK Strix block (coolant leaving the channels is a bit of an eye-sore); and installing the backplate with 2mm pads was a pain; but both blocks are doing their job.

    ...knock on wood...

    Probably switch out the EK Strix block for something else when I do maintenance in the summer.
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 18:05:10 (permalink)
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    happend to my Strix just got a replacement from Asus, so its not just EVGA. I know i had to use a few different size thermal pads besides recommended or i would never have had gotten backplate on, also had one of those mp5 backplate coolers aswell.



    I've put EK water blocks on multiple Strix 3090s and MSI Gaming X Trio and Suprim cards without issue.  I had no trouble getting the backplate on with the recommended thermal pads in the instructions.
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 19:18:42 (permalink)
    After 5 hours of doing my tubing I am happy to report that I have no issues with the EKWB on my 3080 FTW3. All working as intended 

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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 19:46:02 (permalink)
    Been using EK blocks for years....580...680...780Ti...1080Ti....never any issues and am quite confident my 3080 will be fine!!!
    Likely user error installing.
    Sure the first few you do can be a bit stressful I suppose, but after many not a big deal....I too dont use the "X" method as instructed ....too messy when disassembling later on down the road.
    The only thing I have ever found that you defintely have to careful with is when you pull the pull apart to clean inside, best to try not to disturb that big gasket, it can be a pita to get back in and seated correctly !

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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 19:50:02 (permalink)
    blaise
    I just followed the instructions (block & backplate) and it has been running strong for around a month.


     

    Same 

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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/03/07 20:11:13 (permalink)
    rjbarker
    Been using EK blocks for years....580...680...780Ti...1080Ti....never any issues and am quite confident my 3080 will be fine!!!
    Likely user error installing.
    Sure the first few you do can be a bit stressful I suppose, but after many not a big deal....I too dont use the "X" method as instructed ....too messy when disassembling later on down the road.
    The only thing I have ever found that you defintely have to careful with is when you pull the pull apart to clean inside, best to try not to disturb that big gasket, it can be a pita to get back in and seated correctly !




    I agree. The most stressful part of the install is taking apart the stock cooler and cleaning out the stock thermal gunk. Lots of room for error here!
     
    Also in the manual it states not to overtighten the block as the die is prone to cracking. I wonder if users are tightening things too much

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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/04/30 20:13:05 (permalink)
    Did you try again? My ftw 3 died from the water block in 10 minutes. Paying the 400 dollar difference for a strix this time and really considering just leaving it on air. How is your strix today
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/04/30 21:15:56 (permalink)
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    I just followed the instructions (block & backplate) and it has been running strong for around a month.

     Same 



    ^^+8 or wherever we are.  3090 FTW Ultra, EK Block & BP. I'm sure it's probably very frustrating, and upsetting. 
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/05/08 16:06:21 (permalink)
    3080 FTW3 Ultra, since December, working fine with stock cooler, even 420W bios.
     
     
    Installed EK block and backplate, April 29th. Run flawlessly for two days with great temps, core boosting to stable 2100 mhz stock and holding 2160 oc with stock rebar bios.
     
    Updated to latest NVidia drivers, couple of crashes a couple hours later playing cod black ops cold war. Cold boot next day, the pc posts but black screen on monitor... Booting with onboard gfx, the card is not found in bios, red light on middle 8-pin connector on the 3080... tried swapping cables, different slots on 1300 supernova G2 PSU, still same red light... removed waterblock, no obvious damage on card components.
     
    RMA approval through eu store pending since 4 days...
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/05/09 07:03:40 (permalink)
    i never did any custom thingies just cause if bad things happen most of times its not covered under warranty
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/05/09 07:47:16 (permalink)
    3080 ftw3 working flawless for 2 months with optimus block and backplate. No mods
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/05/09 12:02:41 (permalink)
    The only thing I would say that would mean this isn't a water-block issue, is that there are tons of people running them on the stock air coolers in here that seem to be getting the no video red light of death issue. I really wish EVGA would actually acknowledge this is an issue though. I'm about to receive my THIRD ftw3 ultra. and 2nd RMA, I REALLY hope there is not a fourth.
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/05/09 13:00:22 (permalink)
    Well I got my replacement card in and all is well, I have it on air right now. 

    here is the downside, with my setup being setup all static pressure and radiators everywhere I have no airflow so it's running 83c....sigh. 

    So I have 3 choices, remove the front 420 radiator and have airflow and just cpu loop. 
    Or 
    Let the card roast at 80c
    Or
    Risk bricking a second card putting a water block on it...

    What would everyone do? What has your experience been with multiple RMAs
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/05/09 13:03:20 (permalink)
    I would say you could sell it and buy a 3090 from another company then slap a wb on it. But it would probably take you about 5 years to find one.


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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/05/09 18:39:40 (permalink)
    Call me stupid or brave but I put the block back on my RMAd card and it’s been running heaven an hour straight now and working fine under water 🙏. I heated the card up first with gaming then was super careful with proper screws washers and even a bit extra thermal pads on the back plate

    I’m still hitting 67c after all this time but it’s loads better than 86c and all that fan noise hopefully this gives someone hope will update if it dies
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/05/16 21:57:11 (permalink)
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    Call me stupid or brave but I put the block back on my RMAd card and it’s been running heaven an hour straight now and working fine under water 🙏. I heated the card up first with gaming then was super careful with proper screws washers and even a bit extra thermal pads on the back plate

    I’m still hitting 67c after all this time but it’s loads better than 86c and all that fan noise hopefully this gives someone hope will update if it dies



    Both my 3090's died (they were both installed at the same time) after waterblock installs.  I do think it was the stock cooler removal that was the culprit.  The PCB seems to bend so damn easily AND that putty is tough as hell.  I think the amount of wiggling and tugging may have caused some issues.  I've built several water cooled rigs in the past 10 years and I've never had issues like this.
     
    To your point -- heating the card up prior to removing everything sounds like it works for many people.  I read someone else warmed theres up a little bit with a heat gun before removing the stock cooler to help soften up the putty so that it wasn't so tough.
     
    I just sent a support ticket today to RMA both my FTW3 3090's and if EVGA does RMA both my cards, I'm pretty nervous about trying to waterblock them again.  But I really want to, because they looked awesome in my rig before I realized they were friggin dead lol.
     
     
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    Re: 3080/3090 FTW3 waterblock deaths 2021/05/17 04:57:28 (permalink)
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    Call me stupid or brave but I put the block back on my RMAd card and it’s been running heaven an hour straight now and working fine under water 🙏. I heated the card up first with gaming then was super careful with proper screws washers and even a bit extra thermal pads on the back plate

    I’m still hitting 67c after all this time but it’s loads better than 86c and all that fan noise hopefully this gives someone hope will update if it dies



    Both my 3090's died (they were both installed at the same time) after waterblock installs.  I do think it was the stock cooler removal that was the culprit.  The PCB seems to bend so damn easily AND that putty is tough as hell.  I think the amount of wiggling and tugging may have caused some issues.  I've built several water cooled rigs in the past 10 years and I've never had issues like this.
     
    To your point -- heating the card up prior to removing everything sounds like it works for many people.  I read someone else warmed theres up a little bit with a heat gun before removing the stock cooler to help soften up the putty so that it wasn't so tough.
     
    I just sent a support ticket today to RMA both my FTW3 3090's and if EVGA does RMA both my cards, I'm pretty nervous about trying to waterblock them again.  But I really want to, because they looked awesome in my rig before I realized they were friggin dead lol.
     
     



    did you use an heat gun when removing air cooling?
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