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Folks Want the issue of the 3080 XC3 ULTRA power issues to be addressed by EVGA. Cards performance is very restricted by the max power issues. If you believe this issue should be looked into via EVGA then please comment below and tag in ‘EVGA_JacodF’. EVGA_JacobF can you please ask EVGA to address this? You’ve done it for the FTW3 version. There must be something that you can do with this one to allow higher performance. Many thanks
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 07:16:10
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Unfortunately it looks like it's not just the XC3, pretty much everyone with a 2x8 pin card is reporting the draw stalling out at about 340w, no matter the card (or the bios) used. It seems to be something deeper :/
I'm with you though. Buddy has a Founders Edition running roughly 80° and scores in the low/mid 12k in Port Royal bench. My XC3 Ultra Hybrid max was 11600 with a 210/500 OC and it never reached 45° Just bangs up to 340w and that's that.
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 07:23:10
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340W is more than enough power for a GPU. go enjoy your card.
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 07:26:48
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gsrcrxsi
340W is more than enough power for a GPU. go enjoy your card.
I mean... yeah. But there are plenty of different ways to enjoy your card, right?
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 07:45:56
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 07:47:26
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340W is more than enough power for a GPU. go enjoy your card.
Helpful. Not. Clearly you do not have this particular card!
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 07:52:21
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the only reason for wanting more than ~340W, is for XOC and benchmarking. and in both cases, you aren't going to top the charts unless you have a kingpin or FTW3 card on LN2 anyway. if that's your use case and you have the skills for it, you bought the wrong card. the XC3 gives you everything that was promised. i just don't get this infatuation for more power consumption. the 2080ti was a 250W card.
post edited by gsrcrxsi - 2021/01/13 07:56:08
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 07:58:13
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the only reason for wanting more than ~340W, is for XOC and benchmarking. and in both cases, you aren't going to top the charts unless you have a kingpin or FTW3 card on LN2 anyway. if that's your use case and you have the skills for it, you bought the wrong card.
the XC3 gives you everything that was promised.
i just don't get this infatuation for more power consumption. the 2080ti was a 250W card.
You’d do well to read some of the other forum posts on here. Jog on
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 08:18:06
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i've read them, that's the basis for my opinion. everyone thinks they are some kingpin OC god just cause they want to pump 500W into their GPU to get 1% better scores on a synthetic benchmark LOL
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 08:19:14
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gsrcrxsi
i've read them, that's the basis for my opinion. everyone thinks they are some kingpin OC god just cause they want to pump 500W into their GPU to get 1% better scores on a synthetic benchmark LOL
Ok. Jog on
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 08:24:35
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maybe you should read the power spec too  IF (big IF, since EVGA has ignored all requests like this pretty much since the cards were released) you ever got a new bios, you would ONLY get up to 375. they would never release higher on a 2x8-pin card.
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 08:25:46
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gsrcrxsi
maybe you should read the power spec too
IF (big IF, since EVGA has ignored all requests like this pretty much since the cards were released) you ever got a new bios, you would ONLY get up to 375. they would never release higher on a 2x8-pin card.
Exactly wise kid. It would then match the FE power supply. So while trying to be smart you’ve actually just made my point nicely. Now jog on...
post edited by the_Scarlet_one - 2021/01/13 16:57:51
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 08:27:51
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all this jogging is good exercise :). you can keep pounding sand on the forums all you like, EVGA is still going to ignore you. Sorry reality sucks. the FE board is a higher end custom card than the XC3...
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 08:39:15
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all this jogging is good exercise :).
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 11:08:55
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Hi,
here are just my 2 Cents about that. I hope my english is good enough. If not, sorry^^
In my personal case i bought the xc3 Ultra because i knew that i would put a Waterblock on it.
It would be cool if we could get a Bios with the Powerlimit to 375W, like the FE Cards have. I don´t want a 1kw Bios or something.
Just that the card is able to perform almost like a FE.
With a higher Powerlimit and the lower temps with the waterblock the card could have more consistance boost clocks and better frametimes even with no oc set manually. ( i hope you know what i mean)
When the FE Cards are a higher end Card, why should i buy a Custom Design card the next time that costs even more?
And why should someone buy the xc3 Hydrocopper? Only for the fancy Waterblock to get better Temps? That makes no sense for me. ( only if the hc has the same bios )
Correct me if i wrong.
Don´t understand me wrong. I like the Card, the performance is good, but it could be better without a brake in the bios.
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 11:43:16
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Jacob already responded in another one of these threads that it's not gonna happen and that they are up against the design limits of the card. There is no reason to start the same threads over and over asking the same questions. Just scroll down. If you want a higher limit, take matters into your own hand, void your warranty, and shunt mod it.
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 13:12:04
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Would be nice to get closer to the ~370W some of the other 2 pin cards have.
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 15:11:05
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I had the 3080 Ultra Hybrid and even at 44C, it would power limit the moment it went over 1.0v and constantly downclock. The best score I could get on Port Royal with it was 12,074. This was with all kind of testing and accepting that I had to force lock my voltage to 0.950v just to keep the core clock (2010MHz) from downclocking itself constantly. https://www.3dmark.com/pr/756993 I just picked up a 3080 FE and after toying with it for a bit, this was my score: https://www.3dmark.com/pr/773275 Does it really translate much to FPS in games? Probably about 5 frames. Even still, there is the issue of the FPS bouncing around a lot more from the core clock constantly being power limited. I'm very happy after getting rid of my LIQUID COOLED 240MM AIO QUIET 3080.. Thanks, EVGA.
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 15:19:16
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Even if they raise the board power limit to 375W youll still only get 310-340W depending on the leakage of your chip.
EVGA choice of using analog VRM drivers has basically stuffed them since the card hits the slot power limit first with a power balance thats hardware set. (up9511r config is set up with resistors)
The cards that used digital VRM drivers, they just have to send a I2C command to rebalance more power to the plugs.
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 15:38:32
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I'm not sure that's true.. my FE has clocked 371 watts so far already.
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 16:27:12
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There is pretty much a 0% chance of this happening. The cooling on these cards in a lot of people's case environments is insufficient for that higher power draw, and there's no way they'd release something more than 375W at most anyway... not much of a point of even pushing it that high. That extra tiny bit of wattage isn't going to get you any higher in clocks, maybe one step or two. All of the 30-series cards are severely limited in clocks capable because of the Voltage limits on the cards, as well as other limits hardwired in to the card that only the likes of shunt modding etc can fix.
If you wanted more performance, you should've bought a triple 8 pin card.
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 16:59:33
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 17:04:09
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Jacob already responded in another one of these threads that it's not gonna happen and that they are up against the design limits of the card.
There is no reason to start the same threads over and over asking the same questions. Just scroll down.
If you want a higher limit, take matters into your own hand, void your warranty, and shunt mod it.
The point of this tread was to try, again, to get EVGA to act. Can’t hurt I’m sure you will agree. 🙂
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/13 18:43:45
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ty_ger07
Jacob already responded in another one of these threads that it's not gonna happen and that they are up against the design limits of the card.
There is no reason to start the same threads over and over asking the same questions. Just scroll down.
If you want a higher limit, take matters into your own hand, void your warranty, and shunt mod it.
The point of this tread was to try, again, to get EVGA to act. Can’t hurt I’m sure you will agree. 🙂
I just want to point out that no one else is agreeing with you and is telling you to get a 3x8pin version if you really want to push power. If you're unsatisfied with your 3080 XC3, I'll gladly trade you my 3070 FTW3 for all the overclocking powah. 
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/14 01:01:07
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ty_ger07
Jacob already responded in another one of these threads that it's not gonna happen and that they are up against the design limits of the card.
There is no reason to start the same threads over and over asking the same questions. Just scroll down.
If you want a higher limit, take matters into your own hand, void your warranty, and shunt mod it.
The point of this tread was to try, again, to get EVGA to act. Can’t hurt I’m sure you will agree. 🙂
I just want to point out that no one else is agreeing with you and is telling you to get a 3x8pin version if you really want to push power. If you're unsatisfied with your 3080 XC3, I'll gladly trade you my 3070 FTW3 for all the overclocking powah.
Yeah no problem I’ll trade
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/14 06:58:21
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ty_ger07
Jacob already responded in another one of these threads that it's not gonna happen and that they are up against the design limits of the card.
There is no reason to start the same threads over and over asking the same questions. Just scroll down.
If you want a higher limit, take matters into your own hand, void your warranty, and shunt mod it.
The point of this tread was to try, again, to get EVGA to act. Can’t hurt I’m sure you will agree. 🙂
I just want to point out that no one else is agreeing with you and is telling you to get a 3x8pin version if you really want to push power.
I want a updated 375W bios, so i agree with him
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/14 07:53:06
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Every little bit helps - there will always be spikes so a raise of the limit from 366W to 375W gives a little extra room before you hit the power limit. Being able to get an undervolt overclock to just before hitting the power limit will allow for the highest performance possible from any 3080 with 2 x 8 pin power connectors.
75W from the PCIE slot is not pushing it out of spec - without the full 75W bus powered cards like the 1050Ti and 1650 with no extra power connectors will be severely limited. There's no reason EVGA should stick to 366W, and updating the BIOS to allow for 375W max power limit should be a simple fix to keep their customers happy and show their commitment to enthusiasts.
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/14 07:54:17
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EVGA already said no. The cards are already at their designed limits. If you want to go further, take matters into your own hands and void the warranty.
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/14 07:58:31
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ty_ger07
Jacob already responded in another one of these threads that it's not gonna happen and that they are up against the design limits of the card.
There is no reason to start the same threads over and over asking the same questions. Just scroll down.
If you want a higher limit, take matters into your own hand, void your warranty, and shunt mod it.
The point of this tread was to try, again, to get EVGA to act. Can’t hurt I’m sure you will agree. 🙂
I just want to point out that no one else is agreeing with you and is telling you to get a 3x8pin version if you really want to push power.
I want a updated 375W bios, so i agree with him
I too would like at least a 375W bios.
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Re: 3080 XC3 ULTRA - REQUEST TO EVGA TO UPDATE BIOS
2021/01/14 08:04:02
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I agree with him as well. It's clear you didn't really read through this thread or the multiple other XC3 threads.
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