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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 10:45:56 (permalink)
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Doesn't that mb have a lower slot m.2 .Can't use that ? i'm pretty noob about this stuff.


It does, but that is full too. It runs no hotter than 50c. It's an EX950 2TB. It's on the same heatsink as the chipset active cooling, which both top and bottom drives use
 
 
To clarify, all the SSD temps are at idle. Running a 1080 Ti founder's edition blower card on full gaming workload in the same box results in SSD temps 40c (no SSD load) 55c ("full" SSD load). Motherboard chipset runs ~55c as well because it's not being baked in the firey, relentless torrent of 80c heat that is the GPU. They are literally right on top of each other, so there's just no hope of the chipset being any cooler than the air from the GPU.
 
If the fins on the GPU ran lengthwise on the card, even that would help. It's the fact that they are oriented toward the motherboard that makes it a non-starter. 
 
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post edited by voodoodrul - 2020/11/24 10:50:34
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 10:55:12 (permalink)
Now I just need to decide 1) do I buy a new case for $150 to support two rads and 2) do I buy this to replace the "premium" cooler 
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-1988-B1
 
Good money after bad, but whatever. All this to run stock speeds. smh
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 10:55:40 (permalink)
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Doesn't that mb have a lower slot m.2 .Can't use that ? i'm pretty noob about this stuff.


It does, but that is full too. It runs no hotter than 50c. It's an EX950 2TB. It's on the same heatsink as the chipset active cooling, which both top and bottom drives use
 
 
To clarify, all the SSD temps are at idle. Running a 1080 Ti founder's edition blower card on full gaming workload in the same box results in SSD temps 40c (no SSD load) 55c ("full" SSD load). Motherboard chipset runs ~55c as well because it's not being baked in the firey, relentless torrent of 80c heat that is the GPU. They are literally right on top of each other, so there's just no hope of the chipset being any cooler than the air from the GPU.
 
If the fins on the GPU ran lengthwise on the card, even that would help. It's the fact that they are oriented toward the motherboard that makes it a non-starter. 
 
*buys FTW3 Ultra card for the epic cooler*
*removes the cooler because it's unusable*

 
 
 




 
It's really you setup that's the issue as I said before, not the GPU.
 
And the GPU shouldn't be running at 80C either.... ;)
 
I think your case is one of the older ones before they go the idea and realized the issues with using AIOs and case airflow.
 
AIOs in general cased all kinds of problems with heat because of the airflow issues.
 
 
 
 

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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 10:56:01 (permalink)
I don't see a problem.

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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 10:58:07 (permalink)
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I don't see a problem.




HIS MB chipset is running at 80C and he isn't overclocking.
 
That's one issue right there.
 
 

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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 11:01:31 (permalink)
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slapn
Doesn't that mb have a lower slot m.2 .Can't use that ? i'm pretty noob about this stuff.


It does, but that is full too. It runs no hotter than 50c. It's an EX950 2TB. It's on the same heatsink as the chipset active cooling, which both top and bottom drives use
 
 
To clarify, all the SSD temps are at idle. Running a 1080 Ti founder's edition blower card on full gaming workload in the same box results in SSD temps 40c (no SSD load) 55c ("full" SSD load). Motherboard chipset runs ~55c as well because it's not being baked in the firey, relentless torrent of 80c heat that is the GPU. They are literally right on top of each other, so there's just no hope of the chipset being any cooler than the air from the GPU.
 
If the fins on the GPU ran lengthwise on the card, even that would help. It's the fact that they are oriented toward the motherboard that makes it a non-starter. 
 
*buys FTW3 Ultra card for the epic cooler*
*removes the cooler because it's unusable*

 
 
 




 
It's really you setup that's the issue as I said before, not the GPU.
 
And the GPU shouldn't be running at 80C either.... ;)
 
I think your case is one of the older ones before they go the idea and realized the issues with using AIOs and case airflow.
 
AIOs in general cased all kinds of problems with heat because of the airflow issues.
 
 
 
 




Case is an NZXT H510i. The GPU *should* run around 80c under load, that's the target. It's ~650w of power at the wall for the whole system during games. 
 
A premium GPU with premium cooler should be compatible with common X570 board layouts - they are basically all this way. A component should not be so obtrustive to abuse other components. It's easy to cool stuff when you design a cooler without any regard for any other component. That's not engineering. 
 
The case isn't a factor when I've got the side panel open and fans blowing directly on it. It's purely the location of the chipset and the GPU fins butted up right against it. 
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 11:07:51 (permalink)
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Doesn't that mb have a lower slot m.2 .Can't use that ? i'm pretty noob about this stuff.


It does, but that is full too. It runs no hotter than 50c. It's an EX950 2TB. It's on the same heatsink as the chipset active cooling, which both top and bottom drives use
 
 
To clarify, all the SSD temps are at idle. Running a 1080 Ti founder's edition blower card on full gaming workload in the same box results in SSD temps 40c (no SSD load) 55c ("full" SSD load). Motherboard chipset runs ~55c as well because it's not being baked in the firey, relentless torrent of 80c heat that is the GPU. They are literally right on top of each other, so there's just no hope of the chipset being any cooler than the air from the GPU.
 
If the fins on the GPU ran lengthwise on the card, even that would help. It's the fact that they are oriented toward the motherboard that makes it a non-starter. 
 
*buys FTW3 Ultra card for the epic cooler*
*removes the cooler because it's unusable*

 
 
 




 
It's really you setup that's the issue as I said before, not the GPU.
 
And the GPU shouldn't be running at 80C either.... ;)
 
I think your case is one of the older ones before they go the idea and realized the issues with using AIOs and case airflow.
 
AIOs in general cased all kinds of problems with heat because of the airflow issues.
 
 
 
 




Case is an NZXT H510i. The GPU *should* run around 80c under load, that's the target. It's ~650w of power at the wall for the whole system during games. 
 
A premium GPU with premium cooler should be compatible with common X570 board layouts - they are basically all this way. A component should not be so obtrustive to abuse other components. It's easy to cool stuff when you design a cooler without any regard for any other component. That's not engineering. 
 
The case isn't a factor when I've got the side panel open and fans blowing directly on it. It's purely the location of the chipset and the GPU fins butted up right against it. 




 
Actually no...
 
MY system pulls as much or more than yours in gaming.
 
MY GPU doesn't get near 80C, stays in the low 60C range.
 
My MB temps don't go over 50C even when OCing everything for all I can get out of it.
 
The MB chipset is in the same place as yours is on your board.
 
My 970 EVO Plus doesn't go above 41C.
 
 
 
 

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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 11:13:55 (permalink)
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Actually no...
 
MY system pulls as much or more than yours in gaming.
 
MY GPU doesn't get near 80C, stays in the low 60C range.
 
My MB temps don't go over 50C even when OCing everything for all I can get out of it.
 
The MB chipset is in the same place as yours is on your board.
 
My 970 EVO Plus doesn't go above 41C.
 



I find that a little hard to believe because even on a test bench completely out of the case, the GPU definitely hits 75C after 30 minutes of Assassin's Creed Odyssey at 3440x1440 ultra and 150% resolution scale. I think I could meet those temps on a test bench and a box fan blowing directly on the whole works with a window open to cold winter air.. Maybe.. 
post edited by voodoodrul - 2020/11/24 11:17:41
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 11:16:47 (permalink)
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jankerson
 
 
Actually no...
 
MY system pulls as much or more than yours in gaming.
 
MY GPU doesn't get near 80C, stays in the low 60C range.
 
My MB temps don't go over 50C even when OCing everything for all I can get out of it.
 
The MB chipset is in the same place as yours is on your board.
 
My 970 EVO Plus doesn't go above 41C.
 



I find that a little hard to believe because even on a test bench completely out of the case, the GPU definitely hits 75C after 30 minutes of Assassin's Creed Odyssey at 3440x1440 ultra and 150% resolution scale




 
Neither one of mine did OCed to max, never got above 65C.
 
Yeah, that 2 different 3080 FTW3 Ultras with the 450W XOC BIOS that's actually pulling about 480W....
 
 

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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 11:27:15 (permalink)
You can try m.2 cooler
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 11:41:32 (permalink)
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jankerson
 
 
Actually no...
 
MY system pulls as much or more than yours in gaming.
 
MY GPU doesn't get near 80C, stays in the low 60C range.
 
My MB temps don't go over 50C even when OCing everything for all I can get out of it.
 
The MB chipset is in the same place as yours is on your board.
 
My 970 EVO Plus doesn't go above 41C.
 



I find that a little hard to believe because even on a test bench completely out of the case, the GPU definitely hits 75C after 30 minutes of Assassin's Creed Odyssey at 3440x1440 ultra and 150% resolution scale. I think I could meet those temps on a test bench and a box fan blowing directly on the whole works with a window open to cold winter air.. Maybe.. 




Here you go and I am only running 2x 140mm Intake and one 140mm Exhaust... 2x 140mm fans on the CPU cooler.
 
 

 
 

 


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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 11:59:36 (permalink)
Please don't take offense but I need to ask two more questions.  You did remove the plastic strip from the heat sink thermal material? 
 
Also, my board uses the heat sink screw to hold down the drive.  Using another one may keep the heatsink material from making good contact.  And it can be problematic holding down the drive when replacing the heatsink..
 
 

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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 14:15:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby voodoodrul 2020/11/24 14:15:39
Unfortunately most of the AIB solutions vent in the same direction so this won’t be unique to EVGA cards. The 3080 puts out a good amount of heat. Maybe a 6800XT would work better for you.


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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 14:15:24 (permalink)
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Please don't take offense but I need to ask two more questions.  You did remove the plastic strip from the heat sink thermal material? 
 
Also, my board uses the heat sink screw to hold down the drive.  Using another one may keep the heatsink material from making good contact.  And it can be problematic holding down the drive when replacing the heatsink..
 
 

Yeah, the thermal pad is fine and transfers heat well under load. If I remove the 3080, temps are great even with a full CPU and SSD workload. The 3080 is just a blowtorch dumping heat directly into the chipset fan. 
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 14:28:36 (permalink)
I still don't see a problem.  Everything seems to be within spec.

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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 14:31:45 (permalink)
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I still don't see a problem.  Everything seems to be within spec.




 
80C chipset temps aren't within normal specs.... Especially for that MB he has.
 
Very poor cooling design on that MB.
 
Now yeah if it was POS entry level MB it would be expected.
 
 

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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 14:51:27 (permalink)
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Saltgrass
Please don't take offense but I need to ask two more questions.  You did remove the plastic strip from the heat sink thermal material? 
 
Also, my board uses the heat sink screw to hold down the drive.  Using another one may keep the heatsink material from making good contact.  And it can be problematic holding down the drive when replacing the heatsink..
 
 

Yeah, the thermal pad is fine and transfers heat well under load. If I remove the 3080, temps are great even with a full CPU and SSD workload. The 3080 is just a blowtorch dumping heat directly into the chipset fan. 




 
Like I have saying the GPU isn't your issue, it's your setup.
 
You have basically almost no airflow in the case the way it's setup.
 
You have minimal airflow from the RAD and believe it's not much at all.
 
The rest of your fans are exhaust fans.
 
You have zero cool air coming in.
 
Zero air flowing from the front across the GPU and chipset, VRMS etc.
 
So the MB is roasting with no airflow to speak of.
 
You might as well put the PC inside of a plastic bag.
 
You issues aren't new, not even close.
 
They are typical of using AIOs, especially with front mounted RADs.... The MB's don't get any cooling so they just sit there and get hot.... Along with everything on the MB.
 
The funny thing is if you removed the AIO and put an air cooler in for the CPU and intake fans in the front you wouldn't be having issues.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 15:01:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby voodoodrul 2020/11/24 15:26:48
I noticed the same issue with my 3090 ftw opposed to the 2080ti. The one ssd right under the gpu is way hotter than my other 2. Two identical ssd, the one by the gpu is 20C higher. I didn't have this issue with the 2080ti on air either but i had a black xc edition so I suspect the much larger ftw3 heat sink and it taking up 3 slots is covering the ssd much more. I actually had to take off my ssd heatsinks I installed because the card was hitting them. Again didn't have that issue with the 2080ti on air. I can't say I would or would not have that issue if I had the ftw 2080ti.  
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 15:26:15 (permalink)
jankerson
 
 
Like I have saying the GPU isn't your issue, it's your setup.
 
You have basically almost no airflow in the case the way it's setup.
 
You have minimal airflow from the RAD and believe it's not much at all.
 
The rest of your fans are exhaust fans.
 
You have zero cool air coming in.
 
Zero air flowing from the front across the GPU and chipset, VRMS etc.
 
So the MB is roasting with no airflow to speak of.
 
You might as well put the PC inside of a plastic bag.
 
You issues aren't new, not even close.
 
They are typical of using AIOs, especially with front mounted RADs.... The MB's don't get any cooling so they just sit there and get hot.... Along with everything on the MB.
 
The funny thing is if you removed the AIO and put an air cooler in for the CPU and intake fans in the front you wouldn't be having issues.
 



The temps are still out of control (75C) when used on a test bench in open air with a case fan blowing directly on the chipset. There are solutions, of course, but I'm calling out the fact that this card is not playing well with other components and seems to have a design mantra of "not my problem" when it comes to heat. lol
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 15:28:38 (permalink)
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jankerson
 
 
Like I have saying the GPU isn't your issue, it's your setup.
 
You have basically almost no airflow in the case the way it's setup.
 
You have minimal airflow from the RAD and believe it's not much at all.
 
The rest of your fans are exhaust fans.
 
You have zero cool air coming in.
 
Zero air flowing from the front across the GPU and chipset, VRMS etc.
 
So the MB is roasting with no airflow to speak of.
 
You might as well put the PC inside of a plastic bag.
 
You issues aren't new, not even close.
 
They are typical of using AIOs, especially with front mounted RADs.... The MB's don't get any cooling so they just sit there and get hot.... Along with everything on the MB.
 
The funny thing is if you removed the AIO and put an air cooler in for the CPU and intake fans in the front you wouldn't be having issues.
 



The temps are still out of control (75C) when used on a test bench in open air with a case fan blowing directly on the chipset. There are solutions, of course, but I'm calling out the fact that this card is not playing well with other components and seems to have a design mantra of "not my problem" when it comes to heat. lol




 
Have you tried contacting ASUS?
 
Might be an issue with the MB.
 
Maybe no thermal paste under the heatsink?
 
 

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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 15:31:22 (permalink)
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I still don't see a problem.  Everything seems to be within spec.

80C chipset temps aren't within normal specs.... Especially for that MB he has.

Did I say "normal"? No.
But perfectly fine.
If he wants to use his current computer case, in his current arrangement, with his current airflow, and everything else that he currently has, he should feel free to do so, and not feel that he needs to change anything.  It is fine.  Nothing is going to burn up.  Nothing is exceeding specifications.  Certainly it is exceeding what you think is normal, but that is irrelevant.  It is fine.
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 15:33:01 (permalink)
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I still don't see a problem.  Everything seems to be within spec.

80C chipset temps aren't within normal specs.... Especially for that MB he has.

Did I say "normal"? No.
But perfectly fine.
If he wants to use his current computer case, in his arrangement, with his current airflow, and everything else that he currently has, he should feel free to do so, and not feel that he needs to change anything.  It is fine.  Nothing is going to burn up.  Nothing is exceeding specificiations.




 
Yeah, nothing is going to blow up.
 
I was just saying it could be better than that.

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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 16:38:35 (permalink)
idk if its been said, but add a pull fan on your AIO rad, the top slot.
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 16:49:32 (permalink)
I was thinking... maybe the best solution might be to get a pci-e slot card for the m2 drive. I would probably do this if I wasn't going to put my card on water.
 
It would act as a shield. The only con would be if there were any performance drops due to using the extra pci-e slot

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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 17:13:51 (permalink)
How can you be surprised at your M.2's temperature! the heat sink of the FTW has to dump over 300W somewhere and sorry to say, but your case has very poor ventilation, on top of that, you have rad out front that not doing any good to the air flow
 
The setup above with NH-D15, the 2x NF14 fans of the cooler itself taking bunch of his GPU heat and exhaust outside, In your case, there is nothing to help you air flow and keeping panel open, if you do, you might be making worse due to not having directional airflow, it goes wherever. If you are overly concern, change your CPU cooler or case.
 
FYI. My Samsung M.2 is right underneath of the GPU's heat sink and I also have PLX splitter underneath that can run hot as well, but my NH-D15S dual fan moves the heat out to the back and my drive and chip under load never gets hotter then 47C
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 17:20:10 (permalink)
I have a strix x570e and 3080ftw3 ultra.  I looked while playing shadow of the tomb raider.  After around an hour gpu settled at 70C and SSD was 59C max.  I'm using the lower m.2 slot.  I didn't notice any high temps with my chipset.  Using a fractal design refine r6 with a kraken x63 as the intake at the front of the chassis.
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 17:40:41 (permalink)
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How can you be surprised at your M.2's temperature! the heat sink of the FTW has to dump over 300W somewhere and sorry to say, but your case has very poor ventilation, on top of that, you have rad out front that not doing any good to the air flow
 
The setup above with NH-D15, the 2x NF14 fans of the cooler itself taking bunch of his GPU heat and exhaust outside, In your case, there is nothing to help you air flow and keeping panel open, if you do, you might be making worse due to not having directional airflow, it goes wherever. If you are overly concern, change your CPU cooler or case.
 
FYI. My Samsung M.2 is right underneath of the GPU's heat sink and I also have PLX splitter underneath that can run hot as well, but my NH-D15S dual fan moves the heat out to the back and my drive and chip under load never gets hotter then 47C




Yes, it needs to dump the heat somewhere, and I'm going to sound like a broken record, but... Blower style cooler, please. Get the heat out of the case immediately, don't blow it around. I don't think the case is "very poor ventiliation". Should be adequate for stock operation IMO. 
 
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I have a strix x570e and 3080ftw3 ultra.  I looked while playing shadow of the tomb raider.  After around an hour gpu settled at 70C and SSD was 59C max.  I'm using the lower m.2 slot.  I didn't notice any high temps with my chipset.  Using a fractal design refine r6 with a kraken x63 as the intake at the front of the chassis.




The lower m.2 slot is about the same for me. Both slots are populated. The Fractal R6 is pretty similar and overall, we have similar airflow and direction of cooling it seems.  What are your actual chipset temps?
 
At the wall, I pull ~380w in game with a 2080 Super. With the 3080 FTW3 Ultra, I'm pulling over 650w. That doesn't seem anywhere near right. 
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 17:52:06 (permalink)
Is there any non-hacky way to revert the 3080 FTW3 Ultra back to stock thermal and power limits? The bios selector is set to normal mode. OC mode may cause a rip in the time-space continuum. 
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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 18:03:17 (permalink)
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Is there any non-hacky way to revert the 3080 FTW3 Ultra back to stock thermal and power limits? The bios selector is set to normal mode. OC mode may cause a rip in the time-space continuum. 




 
PX1, set to defaults, that's it. Then you can set up a fan profile, use aggressive.
 
OC mode only adjusts the fan speed, nothing else.
 
 

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Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra overheats my M.2 drive - 75C+ 2020/11/24 19:17:32 (permalink)
Have you replaced the thermal material on the m.2 heatsink with something decent?
 
I have a MSI Z490 Godlike with a very similar setup. I replaced the thermal pad with gelid extreme 3mm and saw temps drop 7C. But I also have 3x120LL fans blowing across the face of the MB and 2x120LL directly at the 3080.
 
The reason I ask is most MB manufacturers include two pieces of thinner material for the top of the ssd. One thicker piece is more effective than two thinner ones.
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