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I can't seem to find anything on what the difference is between these? Is the Ultra just factory boosted higher and the FTW3 is boosted to the Black edition levels and may/may not overclock/etc. well depending on lottery? Or is there more to it? Basically I'm debating 2080Ti XC2 Ultra or the non-Ultra FTW3 because they're the same price. The XC2 Ultra is a much higher boost out of the box though. The FTW3 Ultra is definitely out of the price range. I was debating saving $150 and just getting a base XC but I'd really like to have the temp monitoring of the ICX2 sensors so yeah.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
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2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra or 2080 Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ti Ultra One is a Ti Card the other is Not. Ti EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 GAMING, 11G-P4-2483-KR, 11GB GDDR6, iCX2 Technology, RGB LED, Metal BackplateEVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 11G-P4-2487-KR, 11GB GDDR6, iCX2 Technology, RGB LED, Metal Backplate Non-Ti EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 FTW3 GAMING, 08G-P4-2283-KR, 8GB GDDR6, iCX2 Technology, RGB LED, Metal BackplateEVGA GeForce RTX 2080 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 08G-P4-2287-KR, 8GB GDDR6, iCX2 Technology, RGB LED, Metal Backplate Boost Clock as you posted above Some have different Texture Fill Rates Power Consumption from 175 - 250 PSU from 550 Watt - 650 Watt (But we all know at least an 850 Gold) Not including the Hybrid or Hydro Copper Models.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/11 19:03:19
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Yes this question seems to come up often enough. Be nice for evga to answer this one. Obviously the cooler on the ftw3 is better and the 3 fans will be quieter then the dual fan cooler. The sensors is a bonus on the ftw3 card. I'm sure theirs a big power limit difference between the 2 right? https://www.evga.com/products/Compare.aspxWhy dont they advertise the power limit of the models cause we know that's the main difference in the price range.. so it would spell it out to people easier to advertise it.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
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Hello there, For the differences other than the Clocks on the FTW3, the FTW3 Ultra, and the XC2 Ultra. For starters, our FTW series cards have a custom built PCBs, with a cleaner and better power delivery that can help with performance and overclock capability. The other thing in comparison would be the fans. All, of the 3 cards have a 3 slot design. The two FTW3 cards have 3 Asynchronous fans and the XC Ultra has only two. The other big difference would be the ICX 2 Sensors, The FTW3 Ultra and the XC2 Ultra have the ICX2 sensors that help you monitor different parts of the card in Precision X 1. All three cards have 2 8-Pin power connectors. In regards to looks, the two FTW3s look near identical. And the XC being a smaller card and only two fans. They all Have RGB and the same Display ports. The clocks if you or anyone was wondering are as follows. FTW3 Ultra (11G-P4-2487-KR) 1755 MHz Boost Clock https://www.evga.com/products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=f5fc9cf7-6b66-45ae-aaaa-3848a66a8d5fFTW3 Ultra (11G-P4-2483-KR) 1545 MHz Boost Clock https://www.evga.com/products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=7c275a53-bd1d-476b-b0ae-a6a04ed573c6XC2 Ultra (1G-P4-2387-KR) 1650 MHz Boost Clock https://www.evga.com/products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=59cb910c-f083-4da7-977c-87ee44dff707 Overall all 3 of the cards are a good choice for the 2080 Ti, Hoped this helped you make a choice. Regards, Robert - EVGA
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
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Thanks guys. Yes I was talking about the Ti card for all flavors. Yes I did use the compare but wasn't sure if the info was accurate since I'm confused that a FTW card had the same clock as the basic black edition. So I guess what I'm trying to figure out is why would I want the FTW3 non ultra over the XC2 ultra since they're the same price but the FTW is actually much slower. This is making it really hard to pick a card. Brain says FTW but not if it's slower. In the past you just knew that FTW was faster than SC etc and now it's clear as mud.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/11 21:07:30
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flyinion Thanks guys. Yes I was talking about the Ti card for all flavors. Yes I did use the compare but wasn't sure if the info was accurate since I'm confused that a FTW card had the same clock as the basic black edition. So I guess what I'm trying to figure out is why would I want the FTW3 non ultra over the XC2 ultra since they're the same price but the FTW is actually much slower. This is making it really hard to pick a card. Brain says FTW but not if it's slower. In the past you just knew that FTW was faster than SC etc and now it's clear as mud.
The FTW3 Ultra is the one to get, it's a monster. Mine boosts over 2K out of the box, like 2025 Mhz. That's before any overclocking.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/11 21:13:47
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flyinion Thanks guys. Yes I was talking about the Ti card for all flavors. Yes I did use the compare but wasn't sure if the info was accurate since I'm confused that a FTW card had the same clock as the basic black edition. So I guess what I'm trying to figure out is why would I want the FTW3 non ultra over the XC2 ultra since they're the same price but the FTW is actually much slower. This is making it really hard to pick a card. Brain says FTW but not if it's slower. In the past you just knew that FTW was faster than SC etc and now it's clear as mud.
The FTW3 Ultra is the one to get, it's a monster. Mine boosts over 2K out of the box, like 2025 Mhz. That's before any overclocking.
Yeah unfortunately it's a bit outside the price range. Sounds like I'm probably going to end up with the XC2 Ultra instead. Also I realized the FTW's will fit in my case but will interfere with where I want to put my pump/res combo I'll be installing later (well, the stock H500M mounting location for it).
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/11 21:37:25
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flyinion Thanks guys. Yes I was talking about the Ti card for all flavors. Yes I did use the compare but wasn't sure if the info was accurate since I'm confused that a FTW card had the same clock as the basic black edition. So I guess what I'm trying to figure out is why would I want the FTW3 non ultra over the XC2 ultra since they're the same price but the FTW is actually much slower. This is making it really hard to pick a card. Brain says FTW but not if it's slower. In the past you just knew that FTW was faster than SC etc and now it's clear as mud.
The FTW3 Ultra is the one to get, it's a monster. Mine boosts over 2K out of the box, like 2025 Mhz. That's before any overclocking.
Yeah unfortunately it's a bit outside the price range. Sounds like I'm probably going to end up with the XC2 Ultra instead. Also I realized the FTW's will fit in my case but will interfere with where I want to put my pump/res combo I'll be installing later (well, the stock H500M mounting location for it).
Pump for what?
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/11 21:42:27
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jankerson Pump for what?
Eventually whichever card I buy is going into a new PC build in a few months and I'll be doing watercooling. sorry for the confusion.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/11 21:45:17
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jankerson Pump for what?
Eventually whichever card I buy is going into a new PC build in a few months and I'll be doing watercooling. sorry for the confusion.
Well it's your money. I think water cooling is a waste of time and money, but that's my opinion. Too many things to go wrong and it's LOUD compared to air cooling. I will NEVER have a water cooling setup, too much of a risk with the money I have spent on my system.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/11 21:50:36
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jankerson Pump for what?
Eventually whichever card I buy is going into a new PC build in a few months and I'll be doing watercooling. sorry for the confusion.
Well it's your money. I think water cooling is a waste of time and money, but that's my opinion. Too many things to go wrong and it's LOUD compared to air cooling. I will NEVER have a water cooling setup, too much of a risk with the money I have spent on my system.
??? Card runs way cooler and much quieter on water? Leak test the thing for 24 hours if your afriad. Cooler card equals higher overclocking potential basically everytime. Same for CPU. Go with your gut.. ftw3. Dont judge the card too hard till ya water cool it! Mine became superman once on water. Night and day.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/11 21:58:11
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jankerson Pump for what?
Eventually whichever card I buy is going into a new PC build in a few months and I'll be doing watercooling. sorry for the confusion.
Well it's your money. I think water cooling is a waste of time and money, but that's my opinion. Too many things to go wrong and it's LOUD compared to air cooling. I will NEVER have a water cooling setup, too much of a risk with the money I have spent on my system.
??? Card runs way cooler and much quieter on water? Leak test the thing for 24 hours if your afriad.
Cooler card equals higher overclocking potential basically everytime.
Same for CPU.
Go with your gut.. ftw3. Dont judge the card too hard till ya water cool it!
Mine became superman once on water. Night and day.
My system already runs cool and quiet the way it is now. On air.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/11 21:59:53
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jankerson Pump for what?
Eventually whichever card I buy is going into a new PC build in a few months and I'll be doing watercooling. sorry for the confusion.
Well it's your money. I think water cooling is a waste of time and money, but that's my opinion. Too many things to go wrong and it's LOUD compared to air cooling. I will NEVER have a water cooling setup, too much of a risk with the money I have spent on my system.
You're completely misinformed about water cooling being loud unless of course the user choose to run their configuration as so. Pricey? Sure but not as pricey as your 2080 Ti FTW3 in your rig. Plus, when it comes to custom watercooling, people not only need some $$$ as you could always create a budget loop but also patience and lots of research to know the basics which sometimes most don't do and just jump in. It's simpler than it seems once you get the jest of it but at the end of the day, to each their own as it's not always for everyone. AIO cooling is a great substitute if you don't want to go the custom route but don't want to stay on air. It's the great ol medium or inbetweener if you will.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/11 22:04:24
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jankerson Pump for what?
Eventually whichever card I buy is going into a new PC build in a few months and I'll be doing watercooling. sorry for the confusion.
Well it's your money. I think water cooling is a waste of time and money, but that's my opinion. Too many things to go wrong and it's LOUD compared to air cooling. I will NEVER have a water cooling setup, too much of a risk with the money I have spent on my system.
You're completely misinformed about water cooling being loud unless of course the user choose to run their configuration as so. Pricey? Sure but not as pricey as your 2080 Ti FTW3 in your rig. Plus, when it comes to custom watercooling, people not only need some $$$ as you could always create a budget loop but also patience and lots of research to know the basics which sometimes most don't do and just jump in. It's simpler than it seems once you get the jest of it but at the end of the day, to each their own as it's not always for everyone.
AIO cooling is a great substitute if you don't want to go the custom route but don't want to stay on air. It's the great ol medium or inbetweener if you will.
Not really, waste of time and money over what I already have now. And not worth it, would have to spend over twice what my NH D15 costs just to match it cooling wise.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
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I sat 2-3 feet from a massive 5 large radiator build I made prob 7 or so years ago and you could not tell the pc was on! Only way to know was from the red led lights ;)
So water cooling can be dead silent if wanted.
I spent way too much money on that build (funny money) at the time and prob never come close to that again.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/11 22:07:56
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AHowes I sat 2-3 feet from a massive 5 large radiator build I made prob 7 or so years ago and you could not tell the pc was on! Only way to know was from the red led lights ;)
So water cooling can be dead silent if wanted.
I can't hear mine run either. My case is one of those with the best airflow around, Cooler Master - Master Case 5 Pro. Don't know why they don't make it anymore.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/11 23:02:05
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Go with your gut.. ftw3. Dont judge the card too hard till ya water cool it!
Mine became superman once on water. Night and day.
So go with the FTW3 the non ultra one instead of the XC2 ultra is what you're suggesting? Just making sure we're both talking the same cards. The FTW3 ultra is definitely out.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
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Oh man I have a tough decision to make. I just looked on Amazon and ummm, the Ti FTW3 Ultra is on sale. I won't get to use an affiliate code, but since I'd use my Amazon card to buy it, I'd still get 5% back.
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flyinion Oh man I have a tough decision to make. I just looked on Amazon and ummm, the Ti FTW3 Ultra is on sale. I won't get to use an affiliate code, but since I'd use my Amazon card to buy it, I'd still get 5% back.
Be a snag for me! $1350 and next day free shipping for me as a prime member. Prob 30.day returns as well as evga is only 14 days now. Would'nt wait too long as Amazon likes to drop and raise their prices often.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/13 09:58:35
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Just to confirm, a 850W gold or platinum PSU is enough for a single Ti or Ti FTW3 card correct? 1000W will be a tight fit in the H500M without modifying that PSU shroud.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/13 09:59:42
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flyinion Just to confirm, a 850W gold or platinum PSU is enough for a single Ti or Ti FTW3 card correct? 1000W will be a tight fit in the H500M without modifying that PSU shroud.
750W is plenty.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2019/05/13 10:06:40
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flyinion Just to confirm, a 850W gold or platinum PSU is enough for a single Ti or Ti FTW3 card correct? 1000W will be a tight fit in the H500M without modifying that PSU shroud.
750W is plenty.
Ok cool, I was planning on an 850 just since I keep the system on 24/7/365 so that gives headroom for eventual degredation, and I'll be running RGB and watercooling stuff off it. However, I might be able to step up a bit to 1000W after all. I was going to do a Seasonic Prime Ultra series PSU in the new build that the card will be going in eventually and apparently their 850 and 1000W are both 6.69" long. My current 9 year old 850W Corsair HX series is 7" long. I just assumed 1000W would be longer but apparently they've figured out how to stuff more in a smaller enclosure and maybe it's the 12-1300W behemoths that are extended lengths.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2020/03/29 08:38:37
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@flyinion, how's the FTW3 after roughly one year? I'm currently running a 2080 Super XC Hybrid which I've removed the stock cooler and slapped on a waterblock put in a custom loop. As many of you here are probably aware, the PC building bug is easy to catch and now I'm itching to do one of the following: 1. Add a second 2080 Super XC for SLI. 2. Replace the 2080 Super XC with a 2080 Ti. Question is, which 2080 Ti? I'm looking at the 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra or 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Hydro Copper. Is there a difference in the PCB, silicon, VRMs, VRAMs of those cards? I've pretty much maxed out my 2080 Super to voltage limit but only scored 2070MHz boost locked ~52C under load. Like I said, it's an itch. The reasonable man would wait a for Ampere or Big Navi cards to be released before making any decisions.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2020/03/29 10:39:45
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GTS81 @flyinion, how's the FTW3 after roughly one year? I'm currently running a 2080 Super XC Hybrid which I've removed the stock cooler and slapped on a waterblock put in a custom loop. As many of you here are probably aware, the PC building bug is easy to catch and now I'm itching to do one of the following: 1. Add a second 2080 Super XC for SLI. 2. Replace the 2080 Super XC with a 2080 Ti. Question is, which 2080 Ti? I'm looking at the 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra or 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Hydro Copper. Is there a difference in the PCB, silicon, VRMs, VRAMs of those cards? I've pretty much maxed out my 2080 Super to voltage limit but only scored 2070MHz boost locked ~52C under load. Like I said, it's an itch. The reasonable man would wait a for Ampere or Big Navi cards to be released before making any decisions.
The 2080 Ti will be more powerful no matter which you choose from a 2080 Super even thought they're closer to their performance than the regular 2080.
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Re: 2080Ti FTW3 vs the FTW3 Ultra?
2020/03/29 15:56:24
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GTS81 @flyinion, how's the FTW3 after roughly one year? I'm currently running a 2080 Super XC Hybrid which I've removed the stock cooler and slapped on a waterblock put in a custom loop. As many of you here are probably aware, the PC building bug is easy to catch and now I'm itching to do one of the following: 1. Add a second 2080 Super XC for SLI. 2. Replace the 2080 Super XC with a 2080 Ti. Question is, which 2080 Ti? I'm looking at the 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra or 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Hydro Copper. Is there a difference in the PCB, silicon, VRMs, VRAMs of those cards? I've pretty much maxed out my 2080 Super to voltage limit but only scored 2070MHz boost locked ~52C under load. Like I said, it's an itch. The reasonable man would wait a for Ampere or Big Navi cards to be released before making any decisions.
I ended up with a 2080 Super FTW3 Hydro Copper once my build was actually done in August/September last year. I like it, but can't really give you any info on the Ti version.
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