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2019/04/12 21:15:39 (permalink)
So I was setting up my sli when one of my card started reporting 1600w power usage. I turned everything off and tested board with other card and all seemed fine. Then the power supply an evga 1200 p2 supernova stopped powering either card. Using a new power supply and the one broken card I am now seeing 850w and 300 mhz on the core clock stuck. Can someone help me. I've tried using the normal and oc bios. There is no way it's actually pulling this much since the temps are so low.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 21:21:22 (permalink)
    Are you using PX1?


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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 21:22:55 (permalink)
    After burner and or px1 reporting same watts on card oled aa well as in px1. Seems to be locked in low power state.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 21:32:57 (permalink)
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    After burner and or px1 reporting same watts on card oled aa well as in px1. Seems to be locked in low power state.



    Have you checked with GPU-Z to verify there as well? I noticed last night that the readings PX1 was giving me weren't accurate (temps in ICX2 screen were accurate strangely enough)... I noticed high power usage and high temps being reported when in fact the card is just idling (verified with GPU-Z). I am sticking with Afterburner/Classified Tool for now except for when I want to make use of the ICX2 sensor feature in PX1.
     
    Also what is your Power Management setting in NVCP?


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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 21:39:46 (permalink)
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    After burner and or px1 reporting same watts on card oled aa well as in px1. Seems to be locked in low power state.



    Have you checked with GPU-Z to verify there as well? I noticed last night that the readings PX1 was giving me weren't accurate (temps in ICX2 screen were accurate strangely enough)... I noticed high power usage and high temps being reported when in fact the card is just idling (verified with GPU-Z). I am sticking with Afterburner/Classified Tool for now except for when I want to make use of the ICX2 sensor feature in PX1.
     
    Also what is your Power Management setting in NVCP?
    GPUZ is reporting higher power draw at 1500w. It was max perf. And is now on optimal power. Have tried to go back a driver and reinstall drivers. Other kingpin card is doing fine.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 21:43:32 (permalink)
    I think the OLED needs some TLC from EVGA before we can trust what it is telling or showing us ATM.
     
    1500 Watts?
    If you are using the "Classified Tool" Stop and see how you Cards Run without it.
     
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 21:48:20 (permalink)
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    I think the OLED needs some TLC from EVGA before we can trust what it is telling or showing us ATM.
     
    1500 Watts?
    If you are using the "Classified Tool" Stop and see how you Cards Run without it.
     
    I agree. And yes to your question, but I am not using the classified tool. The other Kingpin card is running perfectly. Looks like I'm going to have to RMA before I can SLI...
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 21:51:56 (permalink)
    I find it really hard that you are going to have to RMA your Card(s).
     
    Need to know more about your Hardware to see the whole Story.
    "300 mhz on the core clock stuck." You card is not stuck.
    What Monitor is Connected to this Card, if SLI and Not the Primary Card then this is normal.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 21:52:42 (permalink)
    bcavnaugh
    I find it really hard that you are going to have to RMA your Card(s).
    Whys that?
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 21:53:48 (permalink)
    Posted a picture in the first post. That's what msi is reporting as well as PX1. And GPU-z reports 1500w.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 21:55:51 (permalink)
    Not understanding this as your card Target is set to Zero yet it shows 489%

     
    You should do a Clean up of your Computer.
    Remove MSI Afterburner.
    Remove PX1 and delete all the Folders, make sure you remove the on under your Profile
    Uninstall all the NIVIDIA Software and Drivers, DO NOT RESTART
    Remove the Network from your Computer
    Run DDU and tell it to Start in Safe Mode and the let it Restart Your Computer
    Clean up with DDU restart
    Install the NVIDIA Drivers Graphics and PhysX Only
    Restart the Computer
    Connect the Network back to your Computer
    Run Windows Updates
    Install PX1 Version 0.3.14.0 BETA https://www.evga.com/precisionx1/
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 21:56:57 (permalink)
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    I find it really hard that you are going to have to RMA your Card(s).
     
    Need to know more about your Hardware to see the whole Story.
    Hardware: 6800k 4.4 ghz
    Evga Classified ftw K
    Evga supernova 1200 p2 (old and seemingly Broken PSU)
    Evga 750 g2 (one I'm using to test each card)
    2080 ti kingpin X2 (one is reporting 850-1500w power draw and the other is running fine)

    Both cards have been tested independently. One is stuck at 300mhz while reporting 850 -1500w and the other works perfectly.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 22:00:05 (permalink)
    bcavnaugh
    I find it really hard that you are going to have to RMA your Card(s).
     
    Need to know more about your Hardware to see the whole Story.
    "300 mhz on the core clock stuck." You card is not stuck.
    What Monitor is Connected to this Card, if SLI and Not the Primary Card then this is normal.
    This card is stuck on 300hz even when it's running by itself.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 22:03:10 (permalink)
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    I find it really hard that you are going to have to RMA your Card(s).
     
    Need to know more about your Hardware to see the whole Story.
    Hardware: 6800k 4.4 ghz
    Evga Classified ftw K
    Evga supernova 1200 p2 (old and seemingly Broken PSU)
    Evga 750 g2 (one I'm using to test each card)
    2080 ti kingpin X2 (one is reporting 850-1500w power draw and the other is running fine)

    Both cards have been tested independently. One is stuck at 300mhz while reporting 850 -1500w and the other works perfectly.

     
    Something strange if GPU-Z is reporting 1500w.... you've never touched the Classified Tool? Change Power Management to Adaptive, generally the best setting, reboot after changing.

    What happens when you put a load on the one you say is stuck at 300mhz? Does it boost or actually stick at 300mhz?


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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 22:04:12 (permalink)
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    I find it really hard that you are going to have to RMA your Card(s).
     
    Need to know more about your Hardware to see the whole Story.
    "300 mhz on the core clock stuck." You card is not stuck.
    What Monitor is Connected to this Card, if SLI and Not the Primary Card then this is normal.
    This card is stuck on 300hz even when it's running by itself.

    Run with ONE Card in the PCIe Slot Next to the CPU
    Test Each Card on your Computer REMOVE the Second Card.
    It could be your NVLINK SLI Bridge.
    Use One Card and One Power Supply.

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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 22:05:11 (permalink)
    It stays at 300 mhz because it thinks its power limited. I've never touched the classified tool yet. Havent really had a chance.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 22:08:06 (permalink)
    Is your Motherboard Bios Up To Date?
    Did you Reset the Bios between changing Cards?
    Last Do Not Overclock your CPU and Memory on the Motherboard, Keep them at Auto to test your Graphics Cards.

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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 22:08:36 (permalink)
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    I find it really hard that you are going to have to RMA your Card(s).

    Need to know more about your Hardware to see the whole Story.
    "300 mhz on the core clock stuck." You card is not stuck.
    What Monitor is Connected to this Card, if SLI and Not the Primary Card then this is normal.
    This card is stuck on 300hz even when it's running by itself.

    Run with ONE Card in the PCIe Slot Next to the CPU
    Test Each Card on your Computer REMOVE the Second Card.
    It could be your NVLINK SLI Bridge.
    Use One Card and One Power Supply.
    okay, I'm sorry are you reading what I've said, each card has been tested independently with the 750g because the 1200 p2 does not work anymore. The card with the higher power draw has been tested with the latest and previous nvidia drivers and I've tried the normal and PC bios. Neither seems to change anything.

    The other card works fine. Has no issues. I no longer have them in sli. And the card IS STUCK at 300mhz, no matter what load I put it under it never changes. I know the card isnt actually drawing this much power because its 27°C.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 22:12:22 (permalink)
    Do Not Go by what the OLED shows only because mine show 1% Usage and the card is running at 97%
    Mine shows 1350MHz and never changes on the OLED even though it is really running @ 2175 MHz.
     
    This does make it a little Clearer. I have to of read it 20 Times now so Yes I am Reading what you have Posted.
    "okay, I'm sorry are you reading what I've said, each card has been tested independently with the 750g because the 1200 p2 does not work anymore."
     
    "Evga Classified ftw K." Not sure what Motherboard this is?
    They are two different Motherboards.
    X99 Classified 151-HE-E999-KR
    X99 FTW K, 151-BE-E097-KR 
    Your CPU only has 28 PCI Express Lanes
    https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/94189/intel-core-i7-6800k-processor-15m-cache-up-to-3-60-ghz.html
     
    I would get the EVGA 1600 Watt Power Supply for two cards or Two Power Supplies a 850 Watt for the Motherboard and a 1200 for the Graphics Cards.
     
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 22:40:59 (permalink)
    bcavnaugh
    Do Not Go by what the OLED shows only because mine show 1% Usage and the card is running at 97%
    Mine shows 1350MHz and never changes on the OLED even though it is really running @ 2175 MHz.
     
    This does make it a little Clearer. I have to of read it 20 Times now so Yes I am Reading what you have Posted.
    "okay, I'm sorry are you reading what I've said, each card has been tested independently with the 750g because the 1200 p2 does not work anymore."
     
    "Evga Classified ftw K." Not sure what Motherboard this is?
    They are two different Motherboards.
    X99 Classified 151-HE-E999-KR
    X99 FTW K, 151-BE-E097-KR 
    Your CPU only has 28 PCI Express Lanes
    https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/94189/intel-core-i7-6800k-processor-15m-cache-up-to-3-60-ghz.html
     
    I would get the EVGA 1600 Watt Power Supply for two cards or Two Power Supplies a 850 Watt for the Motherboard and a 1200 for the Graphics Cards.
     
    its the FTW K and even if I need a better PSU why is one card now not working correctly and the other is? They've both been tested. Next will be DDU and clean slate and such but it seems one card has started having a malfunction. And while I understand that the cpu only has 28 lanes I dont understand what that has to do with the cards issues. Even using 16 lanes independent of the other card it's still having this issue.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 23:04:23 (permalink)
    As you said above you have a bad card and need to RMA it, as to why only EVGA can tell you.
    You only need 8 Lanes Per GPU to run SLI.
     
    Have you updated the Chipset Driver on your Computer?
    Intel® Chipset Driver for Windows Version: 10.1.17969.8134 (Latest) 
    I have both Motherboard and installed the Chipset Drivers on Both as well as my X299 Dark and FTW and Z370 FTW Motherboards.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 23:48:42 (permalink)
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    As you said above you have a bad card and need to RMA it, as to why only EVGA can tell you.
    You only need 8 Lanes Per GPU to run SLI.
     
    Have you updated the Chipset Driver on your Computer?
    Intel® Chipset Driver for Windows Version: 10.1.17969.8134 (Latest) 
    I have both Motherboard and installed the Chipset Drivers on Both as well as my X299 Dark and FTW and Z370 FTW Motherboards.
    I will try that next, doing a clean install of drivers as you suggested earlier. Moved to a 7700k system I have.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/12 23:50:50 (permalink)
    bcavnaugh
    As you said above you have a bad card and need to RMA it, as to why only EVGA can tell you.
    You only need 8 Lanes Per GPU to run SLI.
     
    Have you updated the Chipset Driver on your Computer?
    Intel® Chipset Driver for Windows Version: 10.1.17969.8134 (Latest) 
    I have both Motherboard and installed the Chipset Drivers on Both as well as my X299 Dark and FTW and Z370 FTW Motherboards.
    a lot thanks for your help, I know its late.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/13 04:05:51 (permalink)
    I'd suggest to contact support for RMA, if card is always stuck at 300MHz low P-state, as that is likely hw problem.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/13 07:22:02 (permalink)
    You have not mentioned which PX1 you are running. Post 11 has the link for the current PX1.
     
    Px1 03.14.0 was released shortly after 03.13.1. Perhaps the update will work better and correct your issue.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/13 12:03:49 (permalink)
    why is your voltage so high? can you lower it? 
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/13 13:20:11 (permalink)
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    You have not mentioned which PX1 you are running. Post 11 has the link for the current PX1.
     
    Px1 03.14.0 was released shortly after 03.13.1. Perhaps the update will work better and correct your issue.
    Its PX 03.14.0
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/14 18:11:00 (permalink)
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    Not understanding this as your card Target is set to Zero yet it shows 489%

     
    You should do a Clean up of your Computer.
    Remove MSI Afterburner.
    Remove PX1 and delete all the Folders, make sure you remove the on under your Profile
    Uninstall all the NIVIDIA Software and Drivers, DO NOT RESTART
    Remove the Network from your Computer
    Run DDU and tell it to Start in Safe Mode and the let it Restart Your Computer
    Clean up with DDU restart
    Install the NVIDIA Drivers Graphics and PhysX Only
    Restart the Computer
    Connect the Network back to your Computer
    Run Windows Updates
    Install PX1 Version 0.3.14.0 BETA https://www.evga.com/precisionx1/




    So in sli when you show this stuck at 300 and the wattage of 857 is the card that is showing this card #2 in your px1 ?   If so mine is doing the same thing. 

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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/14 18:14:22 (permalink)
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    Not understanding this as your card Target is set to Zero yet it shows 489%

     
    You should do a Clean up of your Computer.
    Remove MSI Afterburner.
    Remove PX1 and delete all the Folders, make sure you remove the on under your Profile
    Uninstall all the NIVIDIA Software and Drivers, DO NOT RESTART
    Remove the Network from your Computer
    Run DDU and tell it to Start in Safe Mode and the let it Restart Your Computer
    Clean up with DDU restart
    Install the NVIDIA Drivers Graphics and PhysX Only
    Restart the Computer
    Connect the Network back to your Computer
    Run Windows Updates
    Install PX1 Version 0.3.14.0 BETA https://www.evga.com/precisionx1/




    So in sli when you show this stuck at 300 and the wattage of 857 is the card that is showing this card #2 in your px1 ?   If so mine is doing the same thing. 
    were you able to fix this? And yes it was, but now it is doing it independently.
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    Re: 2080 ti kingpin power draw issues 2019/04/14 18:18:23 (permalink)
    Have not fixed it, just noticed the issue and not enough time to figure it out yet.

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