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2019/12/04 06:01:11 (permalink)
Hey everyone. I know this is a dumb question, but I just want to double check. Is the hydrocopper block the only compatible full waterblock for the card? I saw on xdevs that it has the same dimensions and GPU location of a reference card... would this mean a third party waterblock that fits a 2080 Ti reference card could fit the Kingpin as well?
 
I got the card at the end of the summer and planned to purchase the hydrocopper block only to find them sold out. After looking for like two months I've given up on the hydrocopper and am planning on using a universal GPU only block, but wanted to double check after reading that on xdevs. 

This is my first foray into a custom loop having only used AIO's in previous builds so figured I'd double check my assumption that the only full block option for the card is the kpe hydrocopper.
 
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/04 06:38:52 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby tristanbh 2019/12/04 07:06:24
This would be your only option outside of the Kingpin block
https://forums.evga.com/Modified-2080ti-Kingpin-Using-EKWB-and-Coldplate-m3002608.aspx

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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/04 06:44:41 (permalink)
Yup, thats what I figured, thanks!
 
I've been going over that thread a bunch and that is what I am planning on doing, but before ordering the gpu block I wanted to double check.


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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/04 08:02:37 (permalink)
So I did a little digging this morning (slow day at work) and found references to a Bykski waterblock for the 2080 Ti Kingpin, doesn't look like it supports the OLED.
 
The product ID is: N-EV2080TIKP-X 
 
I cant post links but if you google the product ID there will be a few hits. I couldn't find reference to it on Bykski's sites, just through various third party vendors and on AliExpress/Ebay. So I dont know, I'd probably wait and see if it shows up on official channels. 
 
I know they made a block for the 1080 Ti KPE though.
 
Does anyone have any experience with their blocks?
 
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/04 15:23:17 (permalink)
I asked around on reddit about bykski blocks and they seem to be rather good quality most of the time, around same as EK. One of the biggest watercooling manufacturer in Asia along with Barrow. I ordered this block through a german site (since I live in EU). Will be getting it in january tho because it came out like 2 weeks ago. I do have a KP block myself but its been nothing but trouble and bad contact with GPU die so I want to try another block to see if that will work better.
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/04 15:48:21 (permalink)
Will be interesting to see what happens.

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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/04 15:49:48 (permalink)
I know when it's time to flush the system I'll prob remove the block and see about sanding down the block posts a tad to see if the added pressure gets me closer to room temp hehe.

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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/04 18:03:25 (permalink)
I emailed Bykski's U.S. distributor today and I guess the card wasn't even on their radar yet, but they said that they will put in an order for some and should have them in a few weeks as well.

Mcwrah Ill be interested in hearing your impressions once you get your hands on it. 
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/04 18:11:51 (permalink)
Yeah the shipping takes a long time (they are expected to get them around 28th of december). Will update either my thread on KP or write here or something when I get it. In the meantime I might do some stuff with my KP block to see if I can get it to mount better.
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/05 16:51:43 (permalink)
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I know when it's time to flush the system I'll prob remove the block and see about sanding down the block posts a tad to see if the added pressure gets me closer to room temp hehe.



The standoffs will unscrew and are the same thread size as the EK blocks. I was going to swap them around at one point, but IIRC I would have had to machine material from above the chokes to make it sit lower. I don't remember if just not using thermal pads on the chokes would have been sufficient. 
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Seeking kingpin waterblock 2080 ti 2019/12/06 10:33:33 (permalink)
Cant seem to find one anywhere.... next build is gonna be open loop gonna feel real bad if I can't use the kingpin card... :(
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/06 11:18:54 (permalink)
This is outrageous, evga should take care of its customers and get more of these waterblocks in stock !
 
 
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/06 11:44:30 (permalink)
I think one of the Chinese companies was going to make one. Bliski(sp?) or something like that...availibity was suppose to be toward the end of December. 
 
 
 
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/06 11:47:40 (permalink)
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This is outrageous, evga should take care of its customers and get more of these waterblocks in stock !



 
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/10 17:52:28 (permalink)
The NVVDD white Led on the KP card is not as bright as the others. Is this normal?
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/11 01:29:24 (permalink)
Yes it's normal.




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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/11 09:11:38 (permalink)
nice its cool that someone is finally making the block i'm definitely going to order looking forward to seeing how yours turns out. i just wish evga would have made more because i really liked using the oled
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/11 10:19:01 (permalink)
I contact this company https://optimuspc.com/ by email and recommend them to consider making KP water blocks cause no one is making it
Let See !
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/11 11:11:39 (permalink)
I ordered the Bykski one and it gets here this week. I'll let y'all know how it works out. I was going to buy one from a forum member but I got diced out because their stupid forum rule doesn't allow you to PM for five days once you join......

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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/11 11:18:02 (permalink)
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I was going to buy one from a forum member but I got diced out because their stupid forum rule doesn't allow you to PM for five days once you join......


Reason being is for scammers and spammers. 
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/11 13:03:44 (permalink)
I understand but I offered to verify my identity with a order number for my Kingpin. I understand rules just needed some help and lost out on a very hard to find item that your company doesn't seem to want to support any longer. Spending 2k on a card I think why everyone is frustrated here over this is that they expect a different level of support. My Mercedes dealer would never tell me they stopped making rims for my AMG because it's limited production.

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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/11 13:29:22 (permalink)
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I understand but I offered to verify my identity with a order number for my Kingpin. I understand rules just needed some help and lost out on a very hard to find item that your company doesn't seem to want to support any longer. Spending 2k on a card I think why everyone is frustrated here over this is that they expect a different level of support. My Mercedes dealer would never tell me they stopped making rims for my AMG because it's limited production.


Unless you purchased a one off limited edition Mercedes, this is not a comparable analogy nor are we a car manufacturer so it would be inappropriate to compare the two as wheels are vital to a car, not the same as a waterblock as it is not crucial for the card to operate. We did have these blocks in stock for months mind you and were while supplies last. We had no plans to manufacture a block for every Kingpin we made and settled on doing a specific amount as the demand for water blocks for an already watercooled card does not equal out. We understand your frustration. This was the same with the 10 series. We only manufactured so many blocks as we determine not every customer is going to waterblock their video card and making the card a hybrid allowed the customer to have a watercooled option at the end of the day.
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/11 14:38:40 (permalink)
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I understand but I offered to verify my identity with a order number for my Kingpin. I understand rules just needed some help and lost out on a very hard to find item that your company doesn't seem to want to support any longer. Spending 2k on a card I think why everyone is frustrated here over this is that they expect a different level of support. My Mercedes dealer would never tell me they stopped making rims for my AMG because it's limited production.


Unless you purchased a one off limited edition Mercedes, this is not a comparable analogy nor are we a car manufacturer so it would be inappropriate to compare the two as wheels are vital to a car, not the same as a waterblock as it is not crucial for the card to operate. We did have these blocks in stock for months mind you and were while supplies last. We had no plans to manufacture a block for every Kingpin we made and settled on doing a specific amount as the demand for water blocks for an already watercooled card does not equal out. We understand your frustration. This was the same with the 10 series. We only manufactured so many blocks as we determine not every customer is going to waterblock their video card and making the card a hybrid allowed the customer to have a watercooled option at the end of the day.


well... I don't see on the VRMs any type of water cooling for example, as you said that the card is water cooled, but maybe I'm wrong:)
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/11 14:51:56 (permalink)
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I understand but I offered to verify my identity with a order number for my Kingpin. I understand rules just needed some help and lost out on a very hard to find item that your company doesn't seem to want to support any longer. Spending 2k on a card I think why everyone is frustrated here over this is that they expect a different level of support. My Mercedes dealer would never tell me they stopped making rims for my AMG because it's limited production.


Unless you purchased a one off limited edition Mercedes, this is not a comparable analogy nor are we a car manufacturer so it would be inappropriate to compare the two as wheels are vital to a car, not the same as a waterblock as it is not crucial for the card to operate. We did have these blocks in stock for months mind you and were while supplies last. We had no plans to manufacture a block for every Kingpin we made and settled on doing a specific amount as the demand for water blocks for an already watercooled card does not equal out. We understand your frustration. This was the same with the 10 series. We only manufactured so many blocks as we determine not every customer is going to waterblock their video card and making the card a hybrid allowed the customer to have a watercooled option at the end of the day.


well... I don't see on the VRMs any type of water cooling for example, as you said that the card is water cooled, but maybe I'm wrong:)




Believe me, the copper heatsink and vrm fan on the 2080 ti kingpin is so effective the waterblock gains you no advantage at all. i got higher bench scores with the die only water cooled. Anything i was able to do with the hydro copper i was able to do equal to or better with the die only water cooled, the coldplate cooling the memory and the vrm fan/copper sink cooling the vrm's.  The hydro copper flow was just to restrictive.




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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/11 17:12:16 (permalink)
Let's not forget your now dealing with lower humidity now then back when on the kingpin hydro cooler.. so that's a part of it. You mentioned as much.

Anyways.. while using ln2 the whole card is not cooled so a full block is not needed. A convenience thing to easily include in ones existing full water loop.

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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/11 22:22:32 (permalink)
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I understand but I offered to verify my identity with a order number for my Kingpin. I understand rules just needed some help and lost out on a very hard to find item that your company doesn't seem to want to support any longer. Spending 2k on a card I think why everyone is frustrated here over this is that they expect a different level of support. My Mercedes dealer would never tell me they stopped making rims for my AMG because it's limited production.


Unless you purchased a one off limited edition Mercedes, this is not a comparable analogy nor are we a car manufacturer so it would be inappropriate to compare the two as wheels are vital to a car, not the same as a waterblock as it is not crucial for the card to operate. We did have these blocks in stock for months mind you and were while supplies last. We had no plans to manufacture a block for every Kingpin we made and settled on doing a specific amount as the demand for water blocks for an already watercooled card does not equal out. We understand your frustration. This was the same with the 10 series. We only manufactured so many blocks as we determine not every customer is going to waterblock their video card and making the card a hybrid allowed the customer to have a watercooled option at the end of the day.


well... I don't see on the VRMs any type of water cooling for example, as you said that the card is water cooled, but maybe I'm wrong:)




Believe me, the copper heatsink and vrm fan on the 2080 ti kingpin is so effective the waterblock gains you no advantage at all. i got higher bench scores with the die only water cooled. Anything i was able to do with the hydro copper i was able to do equal to or better with the die only water cooled, the coldplate cooling the memory and the vrm fan/copper sink cooling the vrm's.  The hydro copper flow was just to restrictive.



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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/11 23:24:59 (permalink)
The example was meant to explain the expectations of a luxury car ownership experience as opposed to a commuter car ownership experience. I appreciate the fact that your company has this forum and that their employees engage with their customers which is a great thing. I was just trying to pass a little advice your way that’s all. Spending 2k on a card I would expect to be able to water cool it as performance is very important to me but so are looks. If there is a better option that also ties into my water loop and looks great I’m all in otherwise I’d like to retain the LCD display and the EVGA warranty hence wanting to purchase the Hydro Copper. If someone has a better alternative that fits in my loop and looks as good as the hydro copper I’m all ears.

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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/12 01:11:32 (permalink)
Just get the ek universal block and do the mod with the extra cold plate and buy the ln2 OLED kit and call it a day.

Your warranty will still be intact! Evga dont care how ya cool it as long as you dont physically damage it.

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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/12 01:20:32 (permalink)
So jelly of US cause in EU you can't get the ln2 oled kit... so for me if the WBs don't work out and I will have to do the mod... no oled for me lol.
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Re: 2080 Ti Kingpin Waterblock Options 2019/12/12 07:50:25 (permalink)
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Just get the ek universal block and do the mod with the extra cold plate and buy the ln2 OLED kit and call it a day.

Your warranty will still be intact! Evga dont care how ya cool it as long as you dont physically damage it.



Can you elaborate? is there a link to full instructions on this mod?

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